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vaberella

(24,634 posts)
176. You're a piece of work.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:12 AM
Apr 2012

Actually it's "tango" not tangle. In any event...all your posts had a bias slant towards Trayvon, not Zimmerman. Actually you evaded and ignored all of Zimmerman's actions by continuously stating Trayvon did one thing. Conveniently forgetting...that Trayvon would never have spoken with Zimmerman, would never have met Zimmerman up close, and wouldn't be lying dead because of Zimmerman if Zimmerman NEVER stepped foot out of the car. If Zimmerman was an adult and Trayvon gave him attitude like you continuously attest...where was the adult in him to back off? Considering Zimmerman, knew himself he had no authority to ask Trayvon shit or detain Trayvon in any way... But no he did not. Trayvon didn't tangle shit. Zimmerman did that the moment he left his car. Why can't you see that irresponsiblity lies with the man who killed the victim?

"It's not against the law to follow someone" Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #1
Who said it was? nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #2
The Straw Man Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #3
Got you Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #8
It's one of the stale pro-Zimmerman memes Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #5
And I tell how I called the cops on a guy following me obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #57
What were they charged with? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #63
I'm willing to bet one of the variations of the stalking and/or harassment laws on the books in all stevenleser Apr 2012 #77
I would bet your right, if it happened more than once. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #87
If you stalk members of the same race more than once, that probably qualifies. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #88
Haven't thought of it that way. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #89
But yet you and others say it isn't against the law to follow people obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #85
Stalking is against the law. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #86
it's against the law to follow them more than once, for sure. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #144
And that's when you call it stalking and not following. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #172
I would not attack him. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #139
Blond witness? janx Apr 2012 #4
This lady Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #7
Oh, Mary Cutcher. janx Apr 2012 #9
"... running or at the very least walking fast because he thinks a psycho is following him" etherealtruth Apr 2012 #6
I would have said, "Who are you and why are you following me". But, after he told me ladjf Apr 2012 #10
I like the response, "Minding my own god damned business. You?" better Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #13
Me, too. Iggo Apr 2012 #22
Seriously Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #28
No kidding, and as though that makes it ok that the kid got killed. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #38
Well, Here's Mine RobinA Apr 2012 #118
Even if he was polite... Daalalou Apr 2012 #39
I thought of De Becker, too! obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #58
Thanks for mentioning "The Gift of Fear." CBHagman Apr 2012 #84
I'd never do that. If he can't provide me with ID that says Night Watchman I give him nothing. vaberella Apr 2012 #67
ladjf, read vabarella's response. Would you really expect someone to give address and other personal stevenleser Apr 2012 #78
Yes, I read Vabarella's response and understand his points. However, giving out a street number ladjf Apr 2012 #96
No offense, but are you crazy? Giving out address or phone number info to a creepy person following stevenleser Apr 2012 #99
It always strikes me as funny when someone starts a sentence with " No offense but, you are ladjf Apr 2012 #101
I don't think you're grasping the point. vaberella Apr 2012 #107
I must be a terrible communicator if you have surmised from my comments that I am ladjf Apr 2012 #110
The post below and a few of your other posts. vaberella Apr 2012 #111
OK. I see how our tracks of communication diverged. In my former post, when I said that ladjf Apr 2012 #115
zimmerman, a nobody, had a loaded weapon noiretextatique Apr 2012 #128
Your theory about the situation could well be correct. However, if I were put in the situation ladjf Apr 2012 #160
i am guessing you are not 17 years old noiretextatique Apr 2012 #163
I don't get your point. Your previous posts said that Zimmerman was going to kill him anyway. ladjf Apr 2012 #165
me neither noiretextatique Apr 2012 #169
Steven, a slight apology to you as I re-read your post, you didn't say that I was crazy. You ladjf Apr 2012 #103
Actually it is extrememy significant. vaberella Apr 2012 #105
I wasn't implying anything about what Martin said. This thread asked the question "what would ladjf Apr 2012 #112
What evidence shows he approached Martin and said that? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #11
The girlfriend heard him over the phone. Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #37
That's not what your post says....what I was asking about, really, was why Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #90
Does the law ever recognize throwing the first punch as being justified? dkf Apr 2012 #12
Police Left Me On the Street, Ma'am, After I Not Only Did That, But Said I Had The Magistrate Apr 2012 #15
Goodness you punched someone back in the day huh? dkf Apr 2012 #19
More Than Once, Ma'am, And Fully Grown The Magistrate Apr 2012 #24
Fairly often, though it probably depends on the jurisdiction too Posteritatis Apr 2012 #43
What do you think SYG laws are? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #59
Yes ... its called "Stand Your Ground" ... duh. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #113
i can see that noiretextatique Apr 2012 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #181
Take a look at the Owens case. dkf Apr 2012 #182
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #183
Who Menaced Minor Children With Knives, Ma'am, According To Witnesses, Even From His Own Camp The Magistrate Apr 2012 #191
Honestly, kids have grown up watching shows like Criminal Minds and Law and Order, etc...They have.. Tikki Apr 2012 #14
I would be angry and say it's a free country treestar Apr 2012 #16
I smile, make eye contact, extend my right hand, and introduce myself politely slackmaster Apr 2012 #17
"I'm on my way back to my dad's fiance's house to watch the second half of the All-Star Game". cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #18
You mean your first instinct sylvi Apr 2012 #26
Well when someone asks me what I'm doing,.. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #27
"I'm strange that way." sylvi Apr 2012 #32
Did these types follow you all through the neighbor during the evening? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #60
My sister was too. I wish her "occasion" had the same benign results yours did. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #98
And Rosa Parks should have moved to the back of the bus. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #31
Rosa Parks didn't punch anyone out, either. sylvi Apr 2012 #36
Do you know Martin threw the first punch? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #41
No, I don't know that's what he did at all sylvi Apr 2012 #45
You'll excuse me if I have no idea how in the world Ms. Parks and refusing to sit in back of the bus cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #40
Good for Zimmerman for shooting down the kid who cared about his civil rights. Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #42
Straw man sylvi Apr 2012 #47
The underlying argument is that Zimmerman was justified Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #49
That wasn't the argument at all sylvi Apr 2012 #51
And my point in the OP was that Zimmerman should have dealt with it in a way to Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #54
Stop making shit up. You started the thread with a question of "What would you do if...?" cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #53
I could be wrong but in every other thread I have come in contact with you Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #56
You'd be hard pressed to find a thread where I used words to "defend Zimmerman" at all. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #64
Best post I have read WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #122
The underlying argument is that Zimmerman was justified Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #62
the underlying argument is: blame the victim noiretextatique Apr 2012 #129
situational awareness Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #135
what steps could Martin have taken? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #136
The discussion from which our side discussion stemmed Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #143
this is no generic conversation...it is about this incident noiretextatique Apr 2012 #158
k Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #162
Rosa Park's life was not in immediate danger. nt ladjf Apr 2012 #97
You seriously wouldn't be asking... vaberella Apr 2012 #104
apparently, black people are supposed to be polite noiretextatique Apr 2012 #130
I don't care a person is polite or not, nor do I care if they're black, white, yellow, brown... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #142
zimmerman was not a recognized authority...he wore no uniform noiretextatique Apr 2012 #159
I seriously would not in fact, be asking someone I did not know "Who the fuck are you...?" and I cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #141
It depends on their attitude. With Zimmerman, I would have assumed him to be a murderous thug... saras Apr 2012 #20
I was Zimmermanned by a taxi driver in NYC once. leveymg Apr 2012 #21
and that hfojvt Apr 2012 #33
Never threat of violence but definitely threat of being blackballed because brown EFerrari Apr 2012 #34
Abner and Gladys Kravitz? Not desirable neighbors, at all, but don't tell them that! leveymg Apr 2012 #48
I wouldn't even have to answer that question to a cop Daniel537 Apr 2012 #23
Amen. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #108
If I'm on a public street or sidewalk guitar man Apr 2012 #25
I have to respectfully ask... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #35
If an armed wannabe cop's after you your own attitude isn't likely to be the problem. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #44
That's not the point at all now is it...? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #50
he lived in the neighborhood, just like zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #125
The difference is guitar man Apr 2012 #61
You make me laugh. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #65
I guess I'm too much like my dad guitar man Apr 2012 #69
I get told that too... but my Dad is EXACTLY the guy who'd tell someone to fuck off for asking. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #73
Hi, (former) neighbor! KansDem Apr 2012 #106
Hi KD! cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #120
You know, I think I knew that! KansDem Apr 2012 #155
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #149
lots of unknowns in your OP hfojvt Apr 2012 #29
Many many times as a kid I would go to the 7-11 alone and buy Rex Apr 2012 #30
I've been asked that, walking around my own neighborhood.. HipChick Apr 2012 #46
"Who the fuck are you?" eom TransitJohn Apr 2012 #52
That is the correct answer. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #82
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #150
I worked at a car museum Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #55
If someone followed you and asked "What are you doing around here?" How would you react? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #66
You're a Zimmerman Defender. I can see it in your eyes. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #71
Your an idiot. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #75
LOL. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #76
Okay Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #81
I never knew there were people willing to give up information to someone they don't know. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #109
apparently, if a white person suspects you, you should not only be polite noiretextatique Apr 2012 #131
Or maybe they don't want any trouble Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #132
or maybe they don't think their existence is "suspicious" noiretextatique Apr 2012 #134
I don't think Zimmerman would have shot if they never tangled. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #137
really? because his actions were so reasonable and commendable up until that point noiretextatique Apr 2012 #138
They can't even say he disobeyed a police order Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #140
do you think his actions were reasonable? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #157
I think he went overboard on his neighborhood watch with suspicion. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #164
You're blaming the victim. Fuckin' hell. vaberella Apr 2012 #146
She didn't tangle with him Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #148
How do you know? vaberella Apr 2012 #152
Trayvon's girlfriend on the phone said Trayvon Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #153
AND? he was following him, wasn't he? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #161
It makes absolutely no sense. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #167
it actually does make sense noiretextatique Apr 2012 #168
Nothing is wrong about wanting to know why someone is following you. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #170
This message was self-deleted by its author shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #177
So accoding to you shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #178
Who said that? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #188
That's the tangle?! That's a reasonable question. vaberella Apr 2012 #166
Because it takes two to tangle. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #171
You're a piece of work. vaberella Apr 2012 #176
According to Trayvon's girlfriend. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #195
That, Sir, is One Of the Stupidest Saws Ever Circulated: It Just Takes One, Determined To Have It The Magistrate Apr 2012 #192
Excuse me...macho act that I have a right to keep my personal information personal? vaberella Apr 2012 #145
The girlfriend said Trayvon asked Zimmerman a question first. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #173
Thank you for finally admitting that you believe Trayvon cause his own death. vaberella Apr 2012 #175
it takes some effort to morph the victim of murder noiretextatique Apr 2012 #194
i'm guessing you are not black noiretextatique Apr 2012 #126
So is this an excuse for not being able to handle being under suspicion? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #174
how utterly ridiculous! noiretextatique Apr 2012 #180
Except to meet up and tangle with Zimmerman, Trayvon did nothing. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #187
meetup my ass noiretextatique Apr 2012 #190
Tactful. jp11 Apr 2012 #68
I doubt that genteel civility would prevent your nut-job's intentions... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #117
not sure a scared 17yo would have your presence of mind noiretextatique Apr 2012 #127
Mr. Z will spend the rest of his life Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #70
I'd have my hand on my pistol, I'd pick my words carefully. ileus Apr 2012 #72
would depend very much on specific circumstances ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #74
This actually happened to me about a year ago. I almost forgot until your OP stevenleser Apr 2012 #79
Exactly, Sir, And Zimmerman Had No Legal Authority To Question Or Detain The Magistrate Apr 2012 #121
I'd say, "My name is John... hunter Apr 2012 #80
I've found the familiar quote "If I told you NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #83
I'd probably tell them. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #91
"I'm looking for your mom" Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #92
LOL. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #93
Not applicable Rittermeister Apr 2012 #94
I strongly believe Martin's girlfriend's stroy, rather than the killer's. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #95
Punch them in the face, Oh wait that is terrible advice Taitertots Apr 2012 #100
"Who the hell are you and why are you following me"? annabanana Apr 2012 #102
I know the answer because a rent-a-cop did it to me. KurtNYC Apr 2012 #114
I've seen rent-a-cops tackle a mall shopper who was leaving with his packages. shcrane71 Apr 2012 #184
Problem is, as with GZ, many times the rent a cops know the real cops KurtNYC Apr 2012 #189
With that being the case, we've got major problems. shcrane71 Apr 2012 #197
When that approximate scenario happened to my sister in '87, she responded precisely LanternWaste Apr 2012 #116
Just chilling (nt) MichaelMcGuire Apr 2012 #119
i used to get this all the time...in elevators in buildings where i worked noiretextatique Apr 2012 #123
SHOOT HIM!!!!!!!!!! upi402 Apr 2012 #133
You talkin' to me? You talkin' to ME!!? Kablooie Apr 2012 #147
The FACT that the person is NOT IDing themselves FIRST means they are NOT law enforcement in that uponit7771 Apr 2012 #151
i would ask them . . . datasuspect Apr 2012 #154
*sarcastically* "Can I help you with something"? TrogL Apr 2012 #156
I was asked that question once Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #179
My response: "Minding my own business. How about you?" Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #185
I would scream as loud as possible and run like hell... cynatnite Apr 2012 #186
"Leave me alone.", would be the first words out of my mouth MrScorpio Apr 2012 #193
I would say SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #196
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