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zappaman

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112. yes it IS true.

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:44 PM

Jan 2015

or are you saying you agree or like this article?

THIS is why I say your source sucks...

"Men who have reportedly had sexual relations with Barack Obama
§ Donald Young, TUCC Choir director
§ Larry Sinclair, gay escort
§ Reggie Love, White House presidential assistant and Obama’s “body man”
§ Artur Davis, US Representative from Alabama and gubernatorial candidate
§ Bill Frist, former GOP Senate Majority Leader
§ Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts
The Clear and Present Blackmail Threat"

http://rense.com/general95/onemanuel.html

Plenty of more vomit at the link if anyone has the stomach to see the guy you are promoting here.

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Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib torture pics drove him to enlist in Jihad against USA in 2008 [View all] Octafish Jan 2015 OP

Just imagine nichomachus Jan 2015 #1

Well we didn't go nuclear, but we did use White Phospherous in Fallujah and sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #27

Depleted Uranium ammo used all over Iraq... Octafish Jan 2015 #105

Our heavy handed use of DU JEB Jan 2015 #130

I disagree QuestionableC Jan 2015 #36

Nowadays we drone. ananda Jan 2015 #43

Wasn't out mass killing spree in Falluja a direct response to that very thing? Bandit Jan 2015 #78

And we believe mass murderers now? Look...some people just like to kill, and like to find msanthrope Jan 2015 #2

That is more like it. still_one Jan 2015 #4

You're right trumad Jan 2015 #5

Thank you--think these psychos gave a shit about a single 9/11 victim? nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #10

Like the US leadership gives a rats ass about the millions of civilians they've killed either. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #117

They hate us for our freeeeedumbs!!!!!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #101

It's what he said in court. Octafish Jan 2015 #6

Well, shit.....people never lie in court, or come up with excuses for their anti-social behavior! nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #12

I thought it was insight to his mind. Octafish Jan 2015 #25

Agreed. Like how Dennis MILLER and his ilk claim they turned wingnut over 9-11. n/t UTUSN Jan 2015 #7

Yeah---9/11 changed them!! No...9/11 just gave them a good cover story. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #15

Atrocities breed atrocities breed atrocities... bhikkhu Jan 2015 #205

like this guy. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #21

Damn he looks like Ted Bundy in that picture!!! nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #24

... NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #28

Wow! I guess I wasn't the only one who thought that! nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #32

I have a photo of the two, caption is "Separated at birth?" louis-t Jan 2015 #63

LOL. JaneyVee Jan 2015 #48

Perfect malaise Jan 2015 #53

Time for the "Bush & Bundy Show!" KansDem Jan 2015 #57

which man killed more? pansypoo53219 Jan 2015 #67

Shit howdy W looks much like Ted Bundy Long Drive Jan 2015 #31

Close your eyes and listen the Charlie Manson dead_head Jan 2015 #64

Looks like he could use a Depleted Uranium enema. JEB Jan 2015 #131

from your lips to god's ears... NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #132

Try thinking outside the box. Without the invasion of Iraq, we would not Rex Jan 2015 #41

Without the invasion of Iraq, those determined to kill would have to find another excuse. msanthrope Jan 2015 #44

Hmmm didn't think of that, yeah I can see that as a defense attorney. Rex Jan 2015 #59

Jeez--I don't remember that--what did we tussle on? nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #71

I swore up and down I knew what hate speech was Rex Jan 2015 #72

Oh, shit!!! The DU Lawyer Division showed up? And you survived? msanthrope Jan 2015 #76

I know, I think you guys felt sorry for me after a while. Rex Jan 2015 #81

So you don't think anyone was motivated by the Abu Ghraib tortures and murders? riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #66

I think plenty of people take tragedy and murder and use it as motivator to do the really msanthrope Jan 2015 #73

That's fine but the State department has specifically said there's been blowback riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #77

Like george bush with 911 you mean? Like our entire government with 911? NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #118

I think people willing to do this qazplm Jan 2015 #212

The comment was made in 2008 to explain why he wanted to become a jihadist riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #213

Exactly. cwydro Jan 2015 #133

.... 840high Jan 2015 #60

He said this in 2008 @ the American occupation of Iraq riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #65

this! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #69

What makes you think he is a mass murderer? Bandit Jan 2015 #80

Who are you talking about???? nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #82

Just a guess GummyBearz Jan 2015 #86

george w bush made it to iraq though, with divisions. speaking of mass murderers. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #120

No, but intellectually curious people are interested in motive. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #89

More "fruits" of our foreign policy dissentient Jan 2015 #3

Blowback. Octafish Jan 2015 #8

I believe it, it seems very plausible dissentient Jan 2015 #14

As do I. Do I need to post that? Octafish Jan 2015 #18

Not at all. I was just making what I thought clear. dissentient Jan 2015 #19

Why yes, you do--over and over again, in fact! MADem Jan 2015 #34

+1. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2015 #46

Right. It's called blowback. brush Jan 2015 #39

I'm in full agreement with your post. (And with this OP in general as well) dissentient Jan 2015 #40

agree...."Blowback." KoKo Jan 2015 #51

So...kill some Parisians. Makes sense. randome Jan 2015 #9

I totally see how you could mistake French cartoonists for US Army reserves. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #13

Especially with the way that the French were so gung-ho to join the war cemaphonic Jan 2015 #114

There have been so many recruitment ads paid by us TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #11

I've always believed that those Abu Ghraib photos were intended to be "leaked" arcane1 Jan 2015 #17

+100 There are more things, horatio.... NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #26

Profound malaise Jan 2015 #30

"starting with April Glaspie" -- actually, I think you need to go back a bit farther in time, at KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #38

KingCharlemagne Diclotican Jan 2015 #47

How to I "LOVE" this post? lebkuchen Jan 2015 #56

Thanks (I think). I'm not sure there's any way to 'love' a specific post the way KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #58

How about the 'Safari Club' that drove CIA around Jimmy Carter? Octafish Jan 2015 #74

We could push the starting point back to 1953 when the CIA and FDR's grandson KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #83

Absolutely. It was in Reader's Digest. Octafish Jan 2015 #93

prescott's dad sam: war industries board WWI, rockefeller/harriman associate, NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #128

He was Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., Teddy Roosevelt's grandson sketchy Jan 2015 #199

Wipes egg off face! Encroaching senility, not a pleasant KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #223

me too reddread Jan 2015 #16

When Truth Tried to Stop War (Ray McGovern) Octafish Jan 2015 #20

Recommend Read...... KoKo Jan 2015 #50

They don't need an excuse to kill B2G Jan 2015 #22

Killing Hope Octafish Jan 2015 #33

Blowback. AzDar Jan 2015 #23

We need a world media run by people who understand Mahatma Gandhi. Octafish Jan 2015 #103

Because you see only 'we the civilized can torture people' malaise Jan 2015 #29

Remember to Think, Despite the Blood Octafish Jan 2015 #145

The issue here is not to excuse, but to comprehend malaise Jan 2015 #146

Gandhi. H2O Man got me reading Gandhi. Octafish Jan 2015 #149

I've long been of the view that it takes a special kind of insecure malaise Jan 2015 #157

That's why it bothers me when someone bothers you. Octafish Jan 2015 #161

Thanks Octafish malaise Jan 2015 #166

Heartbreaking. Mass murder in service of mineral wealth. Octafish Jan 2015 #173

Got lost on his way to USA. n/t Orsino Jan 2015 #35

Just think if the BFEE would have stuck to the Afghanistan war and left Iraq alone. Rex Jan 2015 #37

Does anyone bring up the CONNECTIONS between the House of Bush and House of Bin Laden anymore? Octafish Jan 2015 #42

What is more, why do progressives get mad when we mention the ties Rex Jan 2015 #49

I suspect they are defending the status quo, meaning the Military Industrial Complex. Octafish Jan 2015 #96

Progressives malaise Jan 2015 #169

I figured I would be nice in 2015. Rex Jan 2015 #174

Too nice malaise Jan 2015 #176

Why do alleged progressives think that right wing homophobes, anti-Semites and racists are credible? SidDithers Jan 2015 #171

Why do alleged progressives laugh about the BFEE and try to pretend it doesn't exist? Rex Jan 2015 #172

You're just going to ignore the promotion of blatant homophobe shitbag Wayne Madsen?... SidDithers Jan 2015 #180

Beside giving your word, you have failed to show where he is any of those things. Octafish Jan 2015 #183

Do your own fucking research... SidDithers Jan 2015 #184

You've said that a lot over the years, too, siddithers of DU. Octafish Jan 2015 #186

Nice to see someone else has noticed. zappaman Jan 2015 #188

Blah blah Denmark? Rex Jan 2015 #221

Of course you do, you hate Octa that is not anything that is a surprise to anyone Rex Jan 2015 #218

That's a "yes", then?... SidDithers Jan 2015 #220

I wouldn't do it after what I read in your link. Rex Jan 2015 #222

I wouldn't promote Wayne Madsen at DU either. zappaman Jan 2015 #224

Wayne fucking Madsen... SidDithers Jan 2015 #75

Wow! Rex Jan 2015 #84

On Thu Jan 8, 2015, 12:27 PM an alert was sent on the following post: Vincardog Jan 2015 #90

Thanks for posting the results... SidDithers Jan 2015 #91

Thanks for speaking truth to BS Vincardog Jan 2015 #92

So the Bush family and bin Laden family weren't in business together? Octafish Jan 2015 #94

Interesting, that same asshole was instrumental if fucking up the BOG when it first started Rex Jan 2015 #98

WOW. polly7 Jan 2015 #99

The source was ''In These Times.'' You really don't contribute a thing, do you, SidDithers? Octafish Jan 2015 #95

Do you agree with Wayne Madsen that Obama is gay? zappaman Jan 2015 #106

Don't know. Don't care. Octafish Jan 2015 #109

Yeah, he's not, but why would Wayne smear him like that? zappaman Jan 2015 #111

Why am I not shocked??? zappaman Jan 2015 #104

Because you have an agenda? What do you think about Bush, Bin Laden and HARKEN? Octafish Jan 2015 #107

No. I was not shocked because you never give a shit how loony or disgusting your source is. zappaman Jan 2015 #108

That's not true. Octafish Jan 2015 #110

yes it IS true. zappaman Jan 2015 #112

Vomit all you want. It doesn't change the OP or my posts. Octafish Jan 2015 #125

Why would you link to a deranged, homophobic, anti-Semite? zappaman Jan 2015 #126

Foreign Policy. Octafish Jan 2015 #134

Wayne Madsen is a homophobic, anti-Semite who writes for a Holocaust denial site. zappaman Jan 2015 #136

Not as far as I know. Octafish Jan 2015 #139

No, I don't know why you link to articles by homophobic, anti-Semites. zappaman Jan 2015 #141

Why do you call ''In These Times'' a ''Holocaust denial site,'' zappaman? Octafish Jan 2015 #143

He writes for Rense as well, Octafish of DU. zappaman Jan 2015 #147

Is that the same rense your Tag Team buddy SidDithers of DU quoted in post 75? Octafish Jan 2015 #148

Why are you deflecting from your support of a writer who is a homophobic, anti-semite? zappaman Jan 2015 #150

You are acting desperate, zappaman. As the facts aren't on your side, understandable. Octafish Jan 2015 #154

The fact is Wayne Madsen is a homophobic, anti-Semite. zappaman Jan 2015 #155

Ties Between the Bush Family and Osama bin Laden Octafish Jan 2015 #160

Holocaust deniers are turds, wouldn't you agree? n/t zappaman Jan 2015 #185

Please explain how Madsen's been "smeared". tammywammy Jan 2015 #164

Because what you and they have written is not true. Octafish Jan 2015 #168

I know you know how to google: tammywammy Jan 2015 #177

Good info! zappaman Jan 2015 #192

Not sure why you would defend a homophobic, anti-Semite. zappaman Jan 2015 #187

Smearing is your speciality. That guy seems like a friend of Karl Rove. Octafish Jan 2015 #189

So you really are defending this homophobic, anti-Semitic turd? zappaman Jan 2015 #191

Never. That's why I post on the BFEE and the crimes of the national security state. Octafish Jan 2015 #193

So why are you defending Wayne Madsen? zappaman Jan 2015 #194

Overlook your bullshit, you mean. Octafish Jan 2015 #195

I have no idea why you promote homophobic, anti-Semites zappaman Jan 2015 #196

No. Our difference is that I don't give legitimacy to homophobes, racists and anti-Semites... SidDithers Jan 2015 #203

Nice smear. Octafish Jan 2015 #204

It's the truth, octafish of DU... SidDithers Jan 2015 #206

No, that's a smear. Octafish Jan 2015 #208

Are you being intentionlly obtuse?... SidDithers Jan 2015 #200

You are all over the place, siddithers. Octafish Jan 2015 #202

I've never, ever, said rense is OK... SidDithers Jan 2015 #209

Nothing disgusting about character assassination, either. Octafish Jan 2015 #214

I choose not to use racists and homophobes to support my positions... SidDithers Jan 2015 #215

Never-ending war. polly7 Jan 2015 #217

Thank you so much for this YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #158

George Herbert Walker Bush told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Octafish Jan 2015 #167

He said this in 2008 when the US was occupying Iraq. riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #45

You could wipe out my entire state and I still wouldn't travel to another country and kill people. randome Jan 2015 #55

...^ that 840high Jan 2015 #61

Me neither... I also wouldn't shoot an unarmed black kid, SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #68

So all those people joining ISIS are being coerced? riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #70

Sure, those hundreds or even thousands of fools out of ten billion. randome Jan 2015 #138

So how are these people innocent if they wipe out your entire state? Rex Jan 2015 #100

Not a great working definition of innocence, is it? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #102

The folks working at Charlie Hebdo had nothing to do with Abu Ghraib Kaleva Jan 2015 #122

And they made easy targets for terrorists who were on the No-Fly List for Years. Octafish Jan 2015 #129

Exactly. randome Jan 2015 #135

Wow, that has nothing to do with what I posted! But you knew that already. Rex Jan 2015 #175

thanks, US Army mwrguy Jan 2015 #52

thanks, GWB lebkuchen Jan 2015 #54

Thank you CIA, all you NAZIs thereabouts, and your puppet, George W Bush. Octafish Jan 2015 #97

So it isn't Obama's fault? louis-t Jan 2015 #62

Who can say? Octafish Jan 2015 #113

I believe that ann--- Jan 2015 #79

The images are a record of evil perpetuated for profit. Octafish Jan 2015 #144

Way to go pnac! Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #85

BINGO! Octafish Jan 2015 #121

So the years of the little bush were a massive give-away to the... Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #181

And here we get into something very interesting CJCRANE Jan 2015 #87

We the People are Public Enemy Number 1. Octafish Jan 2015 #116

Spin alert! It wasn't the pics, it was the torture. Scuba Jan 2015 #88

Fundamentally, the Golden Rule isn't 'He who controls the gold rules.' Octafish Jan 2015 #115

Wayne Madsen is a dangerous, homophobic, deluded, anti-Semite. zappaman Jan 2015 #119

At one point I thought the OP was simply oblivious to the fact... SidDithers Jan 2015 #123

If it was me, I would have self deleted when shown I was using turds as sources. zappaman Jan 2015 #124

The poster in question is (in)famous for this kind of thing YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #159

That's not true and you know it, YoungDemCA. Octafish Jan 2015 #162

... napkinz Jan 2015 #127

I had been against cruel and unusual punishment until 2003. Octafish Jan 2015 #151

"All right. You've covered your ass now." napkinz Jan 2015 #165

Sure it did cwydro Jan 2015 #137

My personal guess is MK/ULTRA with a hint of ARTICHOKE. Octafish Jan 2015 #153

they should have let him go to Iraq and stay there. Sunlei Jan 2015 #140

Well, there's always Gitmo. Octafish Jan 2015 #142

Sure. Turbineguy Jan 2015 #152

We have been stuck in Bushdiditstan since Poppy Bush grew global terrorism blm Jan 2015 #156

Poppy Bush was Vice President Waiting-in-the-Wings just waiting and waiting. Octafish Jan 2015 #170

I've run into a number of busted links on this subject - we used to post them blm Jan 2015 #178

It's the price of doing journalism. Octafish Jan 2015 #179

Everything is unfolding like a huge drama CJCRANE Jan 2015 #182

That certainly explains murdering French cartoonists. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #163

I never knew the staff at Charlie Hebdo worked at Abut Ghraib... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #190

Poor sociopath needs a map of the world. He's got the 2 sides of the Atlantic ocean mixed up Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #197

Couldn't if they wanted to as both were on US No-Fly List ''for Years.'' Octafish Jan 2015 #198

So the "no-fly" list actually serves a purpose, Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #201

We have and still are the driving force behind their recruitment efforts in the ME. We are still jwirr Jan 2015 #207

Quite profitably. Octafish Jan 2015 #210

Yes, out corporations and their stockholders are making bundles off of endless war and they finally jwirr Jan 2015 #211

In 2009, Gen. Jones reported Al Qaeda was down to less than 100 members in Afghanistan. Octafish Jan 2015 #216

Bugsplat, signature strikes, double-tapping of family members and rescuers, polly7 Jan 2015 #219