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180. Oh no, you've run afoul of the secret DU Judeo-Christian Cabal

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Reply #144)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 03:52 PM

Jan 2015

Surely your days are numbered for insulting the great Jewish prophet moses.

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Insulting Muhammad is not hate speech [View all] Kurska Jan 2015 OP

how and what the insult is, it could be hate speech. but not a license to murder. uppityperson Jan 2015 #1

I can't think of any insult against Mohammed that would qualify as hate speech. Xithras Jan 2015 #8

take any hate lingo and substitute words about M and followers and viola. Problem is uppityperson Jan 2015 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #67

Edited to say thank you for self deleting. uppityperson Jan 2015 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #74

trying to write more on the thread title, I used an initial and you go off on me uppityperson Jan 2015 #79

Maybe he just didn't want to write the whole word. Your response is all out of proportion to NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #108

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This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #82

jcoath, excuse me for using an initial in a title uppityperson Jan 2015 #88

Why are Muslims beyond criticism? CanonRay Jan 2015 #150

Where did I say any of what you say I did? Reading comprehension failure on your part. uppityperson Jan 2015 #167

But isn't all hate speech opinion? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #17

Mohammed WAS a pedophile with mental problems. Xithras Jan 2015 #22

I'm not religious but I'm betting there's pedophiles in the bible as well Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #27

You don't have to be religious to know about the pedophiles protected by the papacy... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #33

"I'm betting there's pedophiles in the bible as well" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #41

How old was the Virgin Mary? jberryhill Jan 2015 #53

Lot empregnated his daughters AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #59

I'm talking about common traditions, not the text jberryhill Jan 2015 #63

Yeah, back then AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #175

That wasn't a sexual act. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #142

I thought "sex" had something to do with how organisms reproduce... jberryhill Jan 2015 #182

We're talking about the Creator of the universe who spoke the world and all creatures into being. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #189

So was Jehovah jberryhill Jan 2015 #55

Sure, as long as you don't count the Annunciation MFrohike Jan 2015 #70

The Bible didn't make her underage - Christians did jberryhill Jan 2015 #72

Oh? MFrohike Jan 2015 #76

Okay, so let's close the loop on this jberryhill Jan 2015 #87

Yeesh MFrohike Jan 2015 #98

You do understand the point of "age of consent" laws, yes? jberryhill Jan 2015 #99

heh MFrohike Jan 2015 #104

joseph smith also married a 14 year old. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #113

Bull. bravenak Jan 2015 #157

He was more than that. He married a 14 year old. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #159

And he married other people's wives. bravenak Jan 2015 #164

and a 14 year old virgin who didn't want to marry him -- and it's modern history, not more NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #168

I know. bravenak Jan 2015 #169

EVEN if it was... VScott Jan 2015 #2

Right DavidDvorkin Jan 2015 #50

Correct Shoulders of Giants Jan 2015 #3

Exactly right. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #4

Hate Speech is all around us every day FreakinDJ Jan 2015 #5

Agree. nt cwydro Jan 2015 #6

Take a look at the cartoons CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #7

I have Kurska Jan 2015 #9

Then I assume you have not seen the worst of them CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #15

What double standard do you seem to think I have? Kurska Jan 2015 #16

You're attempting to frame this to suit your specious argument CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #23

You mean like this? Kurska Jan 2015 #28

No, not like that CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #60

Does it have their prophet in elephant shit or in a jar of piss? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #39

I am not shocked by "shocking" art CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #61

So, there would not have been outrage if Muhammed was substituted in this "art"? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #66

Oh, I'm sure immersing the Koran or an image of Muhammed in urine would have been just fine, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #145

That wasn't even the point of the work jberryhill Jan 2015 #64

Do you think they do? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #65

They do it whenever I check in on them, yes? jberryhill Jan 2015 #69

So you truly believe he is drinking blood. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #80

Is the doctrine of transubstantion no longer a thing? jberryhill Jan 2015 #84

I asked you your opinion and you said you believe it is blood joeglow3 Jan 2015 #85

Okay, so the Christians believe they are drinking blood then jberryhill Jan 2015 #90

They do? I thought they believed it was a nice Cabernet, supposed to "symbolize" or something..? nt MADem Jan 2015 #183

You'd have to link that treestar Jan 2015 #46

yup and yup. thank you. uppityperson Jan 2015 #14

+1000 YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #162

DU rec... SidDithers Jan 2015 #10

Brilliant MohRokTah Jan 2015 #20

He does some really good stuff. F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #62

So then Charlie Hebdo, itself, is politically correct. closeupready Jan 2015 #11

not so much fuss over that one, indeed. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #161

Yes - I've posted that question three times; accused others of double standards twice. closeupready Jan 2015 #172

inconvenient truth NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #177

Here I'll answer it. Kurska Jan 2015 #181

Worshippers of Jesus are actually worshipping Loki's penis. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #13

Here, let me show you something Kurska... Scootaloo Jan 2015 #18

Only one problem, the drawing you posted is contextual and about the killings by the military Mass Jan 2015 #19

the al sisi govt against muslim brotherhood ? JI7 Jan 2015 #26

Yes. It is fuzzy on the picture, but says " tueries in Egypte". Mass Jan 2015 #29

Calling the Torah or Quran shit isn't hate speech. Kurska Jan 2015 #21

You have such an obvious double standard. closeupready Jan 2015 #24

What is my double standard? Kurska Jan 2015 #25

It would be interesting to see, but I would not hope an answer. Mass Jan 2015 #35

Okay I must confess Kurska Jan 2015 #42

I don't think Zoroastrians, who are a persecuted minority in Iran, would appreciate MADem Jan 2015 #49

"why you feel a NEED to do so? " Kurska Jan 2015 #51

You got the name of the faith wrong, and you called their founder "Big Daddy Z." MADem Jan 2015 #58

You know what I'll be honest Kurska Jan 2015 #78

This is not grammar school. MADem Jan 2015 #184

I refuse to treat religion as is if has to be dealt with as if it is a delicate flower. Kurska Jan 2015 #185

Yes, yes, of course, everyone understands that you have the "right" to MADem Jan 2015 #186

People were just murdered for engaging in that right. Kurska Jan 2015 #187

I don't think you can compare your snarky little comments to their work in any way, shape or form. MADem Jan 2015 #188

"Double standard" Dr. Strange Jan 2015 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jan 2015 #30

self deleted, you aren't worth it. nt uppityperson Jan 2015 #31

Oh come on don't hold back Kurska Jan 2015 #32

But putting a crucifix in piss or shit is art, right? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #44

yes it is. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #143

Yeah, it is not a scream for relevancy and attention at all. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #149

Because they're american and live in a majority christian country? NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #163

Exactly. It is a cry for attention and not an expression of anything. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #173

I'd say it's a way of making their 'art' stand out from the pack. and given there are NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #174

Decried but no response of mass murder, so no hypocrisy. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #45

Charlie's next risque Holocaust Cover Solindsey Jan 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Mass Jan 2015 #37

So don't read or buy it. Bonx Jan 2015 #43

Other people will. Solindsey Jan 2015 #47

So the cartoons should be illegal ? Bonx Jan 2015 #48

It's Hate Speech and Anti-Islam Propaganda Solindsey Jan 2015 #52

I get that you think that, but, should the cartoons be illegal ? Bonx Jan 2015 #57

"The increase in hate crimes against Muslims is not a big ol' coincidence either." NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #166

+100 NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #165

Let's assume it was hate speech. So what? Hate speech is protected speech. (in the US)nt kelly1mm Jan 2015 #36

dead people and religions can't be insulted nt msongs Jan 2015 #38

I don't agree that anyone is saying or thinking that treestar Jan 2015 #40

I'm interested to know why every cartoon of a guy in a turban TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #54

Comment on your last paragraph. Religion is a choice, gender and race are not. freshwest Jan 2015 #102

so what if it's a choice - and for most people it isn't TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #160

There are constitutional bans on atheists holding office in several states Fumesucker Jan 2015 #190

how is it not hate speech just because some states might TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #191

I said it wasn't "considered" hate speech and it's not Fumesucker Jan 2015 #192

No excuse for murdering the cartoonist, but it is hate speech. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #56

Not even CLOSE to equivalent.... Adrahil Jan 2015 #146

Yup. And one man's "hate speech" is another man's brilliant satire dissentient Jan 2015 #68

Um, what? MFrohike Jan 2015 #71

I don't see anyone struggling with that concept. I see people trying not to blame one billion sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #77

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"ALL of Islam" is extremist terrorist fundamentalists? Liberty, EQUALITY, Fraternity uppityperson Jan 2015 #86

All and everyone statements never make it. And Liberty, Equality and Fraternity is beautiful. freshwest Jan 2015 #103

"hate speech" is a meaningless concept. Or at least so wildly subjective that it might as well be. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #83

No it has a perfectly defined objective definition Kurska Jan 2015 #89

Exactly. And once everyone agrees that The Grateful Dead are the best band of all time, period, Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #91

But Warren my favorite band is an Indie rock group called Cursive Kurska Jan 2015 #92

Hmmm, Name sounds familiar Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #137

Isn't the term bigotry rather than hate speech? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #93

You can be bigoted against people who practice religions Kurska Jan 2015 #94

We're pretty much on the same page... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #95

Same hope you've been having a wonderful time Kurska Jan 2015 #97

Regardless of what we think, a lot of people ecstatic Jan 2015 #96

I guess the question really is "where is the line" Marrah_G Jan 2015 #136

It's not hate speech to make fun of any fundamentalist nuts. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #100

how about atheist fundies? NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #171

You're right. WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #101

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I'm a gay Jew Kurska Jan 2015 #106

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Did you just imply that all Jews (at least gay Jews) are white? Kurska Jan 2015 #111

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Jews come in ALL hues. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #116

I am denying all Jews are white, which is what you implied Kurska Jan 2015 #119

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You're being incredibly dense here, so let me spell it out Kurska Jan 2015 #124

The poster doesn't think Jews are an oppressed minority. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #112

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Or looking at hate crimes against Straights and comparing them to gays. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #118

Jews have a several thousand year long history of oppression. Kurska Jan 2015 #120

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So you're saying that today in America Jews are not an oppressed group? Kurska Jan 2015 #125

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Are gays? Cause I'm one of those. Kurska Jan 2015 #129

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Oh boy Kurska Jan 2015 #132

And that now PPR'd poster now conveniently disproved his own point that Jews are not an oppressed stevenleser Jan 2015 #153

It is hate speech. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #107

Do you think the speech they engaged in should be illegal? n/t Kurska Jan 2015 #109

i think the misconception comes because people think if it's hate speech, it must be NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #126

You posted that article and highlighted the areas about what makes it illegal Kurska Jan 2015 #130

Crickets eom Kurska Jan 2015 #179

Then it is time to remove religion (not believers) from hate speech protection Albertoo Jan 2015 #114

"you seem to think that that mere statement of fact constitutes hate speech" NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #122

you obviously did not read/understand my answer Albertoo Jan 2015 #133

I both read and understood it, and indeed, quoted it. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #134

people who feel the need to insult the intelligence of others? Albertoo Jan 2015 #135

France has hate speech laws, Charlie Hedbo was sued under them and the case was decided strongly Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #152

Well do the same thing to the jewish community here and see how it goes. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #138

Insult Moses or Abraham? Kurska Jan 2015 #139

Then have at it. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #140

Here's a favorite oberliner Jan 2015 #141

here's a better one shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #147

Please link me to the wealth of DU posts insulting moses and abraham. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #170

They were actually about to go bankrupt Kurska Jan 2015 #178

Moses was a murderous misogynist. Says so right in the big book of fairy tales. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #144

Oh no, you've run afoul of the secret DU Judeo-Christian Cabal Kurska Jan 2015 #180

Here's Christian Bale on Moses, he just played Moses in a big movie... Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #148

I think hate speech is defined by the viewer/reader/listener. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #151

I cannot believe this thread has this many responses. Coventina Jan 2015 #154

Seems so simple. NCTraveler Jan 2015 #156

There is a remarkable double standard MosheFeingold Jan 2015 #158

I find it helpful to view all religions with an equal amount of disdain. LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #176