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In reply to the discussion: If "Charlie Hebdo" is satire, could someone please explain to me how this cover [View all]MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)21. If this is satire, please explain to me how it's funny
Yeah, offensive speech is still free speech.
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If "Charlie Hebdo" is satire, could someone please explain to me how this cover [View all]
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
OP
I just wondered if there's some humor here that I'm not getting. From where
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#6
I remember something awfully racist that he was doing on stage and in movies.
BeanMusical
Jan 2015
#83
OK, I think I see the reasoning behind it and why it might be seen as humorous. Thanks
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#98
Like a lot of their stuff the humor comes second to the shock value. Think Southpark
Recursion
Jan 2015
#100
Yeah, I'm beginning to 'get it.' I think I"ll just retreat to listen to
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#102
I think the cover was mostly tweaking the Europeans who were so enamored of the Tahrir Square
Recursion
Jan 2015
#97
This cover is, to put it bluntly, out and out racist. I fail to see how this cover has anything
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#17
Reservations? Apparently not, as there is a picture going around of flowers and Arabic script....
Moonwalk
Jan 2015
#145
Seeing that caricature made me mist up a bit, because we all know or should know what
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#111
Islam is a religion, not a race. How can this be racist? Bigoted, perhaps, racist, no. nt
kelly1mm
Jan 2015
#108
OK, bigoted. Islam actually finds adherents in many lands and of many races, so
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#110
I'm not sure how it's "racist." It doesn't appear to target a particular race to me...
Adrahil
Jan 2015
#218
So everyone says, I'd like to see some that reach that level of disrespect n/t
whatchamacallit
Jan 2015
#56
It's usually at about the sophistication level of Southpark, which also isn't my bag (nt)
Recursion
Jan 2015
#90
There are a lot of magazines that are offensive to a lot of folks, but nothing justifies murder.
still_one
Jan 2015
#9
It's not appealing or funny to me, and it probably is offensive to devout Muslims.
Avalux
Jan 2015
#12
It seems you're trying to give it the most positive spin you can think of
whatchamacallit
Jan 2015
#39
If there is a joke in this cover, I think that may be it. Funny the same way some of the scenes
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#42
Right, and it was in the context of the West breathlessly supporting the protesters
Recursion
Jan 2015
#94
Charlie Hebdo is also a lot like Colbert. It promotes left wing positions by satirizing the right.
Xithras
Jan 2015
#82
they're not a bit left wing. their entire schtick is racism and its equivalents.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#175
Why would you feel the need to go off on how "offended" you are by it, right now?
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2015
#18
I had never heard of the magazine before today to be honest. But when I heard it
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#24
"Operation shocking and awful" in quotes, into the google site search box...
SidDithers
Jan 2015
#127
Well, I hate Falwell more than I hate most Muslims, that I'll grant you. And, yeah, I'd
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#57
Wouldn't it be just as offensive if it were a hillbilly Christian holding a Bible?
Kelvin Mace
Jan 2015
#202
Wow, I had no idea. Thank you for broadening my horizions a bit. I can see I
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#46
the best response is to laugh at it and ridicule the magazine but insecure people won't do that nt
msongs
Jan 2015
#30
I don't care for it and would not have bought it, but there is freedom of speech.
hrmjustin
Jan 2015
#44
O.K., not "satire" (kudos to your DU French handle, btw). Just "deeply felt"? n/t
UTUSN
Jan 2015
#62
I call bullshit on your post. I would feel the same way regardless of what book was being held
corkhead
Jan 2015
#68
They think Jerry Lewis is funny. I can't imagine that you are trying to rationalize what happened
corkhead
Jan 2015
#65
The European and especially French left has a long tradition of anti-clericalism.
Spider Jerusalem
Jan 2015
#180
You fail to mention that they ran that cover AFTER "jihadists" firebombed their offices.
Xithras
Jan 2015
#78
But the penalty for hate speech still isn't being gunned down in your office
wickerwoman
Jan 2015
#93
I think I hear Hitler firing up the Zamboni. You and I agree on something. Get your skates!!! nt
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#121
You have articulated exactly feelings I had but was unable to articulate clearly to myself. If it
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#114
The title is "Killing in Egypt" and is in fact attacking both the military government and MB.
Mass
Jan 2015
#106
Why haven't you responded to posts 197, 106, 74, or 161? Four DUers accurately
Luminous Animal
Jan 2015
#213
The French haven't forgotten one of the reasons to overthrow the monarchy was the Church.
freshwest
Jan 2015
#107
I take John Stuart Mill's line (in "On Liberty") that the best cure for
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#118
Memories grow dim with the passage of time. But, IIRC, Andres Serrano's
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#135
Assuming it is hate speech, so what? It is still protected speech (at least in the US) nt
kelly1mm
Jan 2015
#117
The "So What?' has to do, I think, with who exactly is being mourned and why. If those who died
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#124
Can they not be both? Many here HATE that the ACLU defended the KKK's right to march
kelly1mm
Jan 2015
#130
I'm a long-time "card-carrying member of the ACLU" (to use a standard RW canard), so I
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#140
In my experience, lazy artists resort to piss and shit to shock people to garner attention
joeglow3
Jan 2015
#152
Using humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices,
prayin4rain
Jan 2015
#122
You obviously chose not to mention the anti Jewish & Christian Charlie Hebdo covers!!??!!
SkyDaddy7
Jan 2015
#142
The article was about the Egyptian Govt smashing down the muslim brotherhood.
NutmegYankee
Jan 2015
#161
it's saying mohammed's followers are killing the profit they claim to follow.
pansypoo53219
Jan 2015
#168
That is still a Western interpretation of satire that we insist on imposing on the rest of the world
randome
Jan 2015
#190
I agree that France is the West. And the 3 gunmen chose to live in a multicultural nation.
randome
Jan 2015
#192
They went after everyone, including Christians. Now what? Did you want them to make an exception
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2015
#211
Why haven't you responded to posts 197, 106, 74, or 161? Four DUers accurately
Luminous Animal
Jan 2015
#215