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el_bryanto

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4. Well I agree that in order for any progress to be made
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jan 2015

you are going to have to get it out of the local law enforcement purview - the cops have shown themselves unable to police themselves.

As for why they don't band together, i think there are two issues making that hard.

1) - They are isolated or feel isolated in their departments - and they need the job. They need to be able to trust that the cop next to them is going to have their back. If they speak out against racism, well they might not have that.

2) - there's also cultural biases playing into this - I know that my tendency on reading a story involving a cop is to assume that the cop is in the wrong - that's a gut reaction - but it probably isn't always true. There are times when the police acted correctly when all the information comes out. The flip side is that if you are a cop your bias is to believe other cops.

Bryant

Yes. Those insubordinate cops were supporting blatant racism. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #1
Police privilege? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #2
Yeah, well, Cyrano Jan 2015 #3
Well I agree that in order for any progress to be made el_bryanto Jan 2015 #4
Just to clarify-- YarnAddict Jan 2015 #44
Who said he died of a heart attack? Ino Jan 2015 #62
Lots of sources YarnAddict Jan 2015 #64
One should always check who is stating "facts" Ino Jan 2015 #65
sixty percent of the NYPD are racial minorities TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #5
A person doesn't have to be white in order to be anti-black... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #8
"White supremacist society" TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #9
A society where whiteness is normalized and standardized... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #14
And "white supremacist" carries no negative connotations TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #18
It doesn't matter whether the truth carries negative connotations gollygee Jan 2015 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #21
"White supremacy" has more than one definition... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #24
And so does the word "thug" TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #25
I've been very clear about what definition that I've been applying for white supremacy... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #28
Actually, It's 49 percent wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #10
Nonsense Hutzpa Jan 2015 #11
the rank and file - whatever their color /nt TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #13
Okay, but what percentage are we talking about here? Hutzpa Jan 2015 #16
NYPD Demographics per Wiki: branford Jan 2015 #23
There in lies our answer Hutzpa Jan 2015 #30
The OP has just read it. And your point is ...? Cyrano Jan 2015 #31
You're not the OP of the post Hutzpa Jan 2015 #33
Umm, yeah, I'm pretty sure I am. And Cyrano Jan 2015 #35
Look, I'm not sure what your argument is Hutzpa Jan 2015 #37
OP means original post, Aside from that, no problem. Cyrano Jan 2015 #39
And that is supposed to mean what exactly????? BronxBoy Jan 2015 #49
The poster inquired about NYPD demographics, branford Jan 2015 #63
Bullshit.... BronxBoy Jan 2015 #50
'Ridiculous' to believe this is racial? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #12
Well said. And welcome back. Cyrano Jan 2015 #19
no, he specifically stated those people that incited violence TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #34
"... beatings of officers"? "Molotov cocktails"? Cyrano Jan 2015 #36
OK. We disagree Neon Gods Jan 2015 #40
How come COPS are never assholes in your world???? BronxBoy Jan 2015 #46
The whining about the NYPD is that a cop choked . . . brush Jan 2015 #42
Here you go - black cops in NYC feel threatened! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #57
Thanks for the back-up, JustAnotherGen. nt brush Jan 2015 #58
Glad to Provide JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #60
Please post a link to your claim that 60% of the NYPD is non-white...... BronxBoy Jan 2015 #45
I know it's the post but survey says that poster is wrong JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #61
and 95% of those cops turning there backs were white. How did you miss that? bettyellen Jan 2015 #53
The problem is that people who are outwardly anti-black won't think that they're being racist MrScorpio Jan 2015 #6
I wouldn't try and reason with her Mr. S JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #17
And of course... BronxBoy Jan 2015 #47
Who are they sending a message to? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #7
^^ THIS ^^ Hutzpa Jan 2015 #15
I missed those t-shirts, but Cyrano Jan 2015 #27
+1 Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #22
And I bet some loves him just for his name alone. Hutzpa Jan 2015 #26
The brutal police force is a symptom of institutional racism. Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #29
Bingo! nt MrScorpio Jan 2015 #32
I'd say the short answer to your question is a resounding YES madokie Jan 2015 #38
No racism, no bigotry... Just hard nosed union+nypd v. Mayor politics 4139 Jan 2015 #41
I'm a New Yorker also, a black New Yorker brush Jan 2015 #43
It's unbelieveable isn't it????? BronxBoy Jan 2015 #48
That was not the question, the question was/is... 4139 Jan 2015 #54
Well aren't you special... BronxBoy Jan 2015 #55
no, the fact his family include POC is just bonus racism for them- they want to profile and they bettyellen Jan 2015 #56
Yep, the old saying . . . brush Jan 2015 #59
It sure seems like it these days jdenver_2624 Jan 2015 #51
If a PoC says its racist it is gwheezie Jan 2015 #52
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