that's a different key. yes, republicans win that one simply because obama isn't running again. (Reply #33)

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33. that's a different key. yes, republicans win that one simply because obama isn't running again.

this is the key relating to a contested primary:

"2.Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination."

for this key, democrats are the incumbent party even though obama's not running again.

note that there's no key for a contested challenging party nomination. i.e., for 2016, it doesn't matter how simple or messy the republican primary is, but democrats pay a price for if our primary isn't essentially a coronation.

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37 replies	Author	Time	Post
David Axelrod: ELIZABETH WARREN Trying To ‘LEVERAGE’ Clinton [View all]	Segami	Dec 2014	OP
She "through" caution to the wind???	joeybee12	Dec 2014	#1
no doubt that's exactly what they have. "through" is a correctly spelled word.	unblock	Dec 2014	#5
Or an editor....	joeybee12	Dec 2014	#18
+1 ;) n/t	fredamae	Dec 2014	#20
"Through" is the new "threw". I guess.	pa28	Dec 2014	#27
From what I've seen, Politico probably needs fact-check even more than spell check.	leveymg	Feb 2015	#36
Yeah I never thought Warren really wanted to run but just to put the fear of God in Hillary.	hrmjustin	Dec 2014	#2
But its too late for Hillary to go left, except on social issues.	RiverLover	Dec 2014	#6
It is never too late to go left.	hrmjustin	Dec 2014	#7
That could be one of her campaign slogans.	RiverLover	Dec 2014	#12
LOL!	KittyWampus	Dec 2014	#14
it seems you are confusing ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2014	#29
I don't care how Hillary "frames her candidacy". I've no doubt she'll screw us all ...	Scuba	Dec 2014	#3
Hillary is spending her days...	Segami	Dec 2014	#9
More like "What should I pretend to be?"	Scuba	Dec 2014	#10
“You hear ‘Ready For Hillary’— It’s like, ready for what?	Segami	Dec 2014	#17
Exactly. She might pretend to be a populist, but we'd be fools to believe it.	polichick	Dec 2014	#25
I have a reply but it'll have to come by PM.	NYC_SKP	Dec 2014	#19
LOL.	Segami	Dec 2014	#23
IMO, candidate will govern however they want to. Warren is too smart to think Hillary would budge.	NYC_SKP	Dec 2014	#4
budge? maybe not. appoint to cabinet or even fed? that's another story.	unblock	Dec 2014	#8
She does that, she'd be doing it even if it wasn't election season... IMO, Hillary is not 45.	NYC_SKP	Dec 2014	#11
imho, if we have a highly contested primary, we're looking at a republican win in 2016 anyway.	unblock	Dec 2014	#16
"contested incumbent party primary"	truebluegreen	Dec 2014	#24
the democratic party is the incumbent party.	unblock	Dec 2014	#28
From the link you provided:	truebluegreen	Dec 2014	#31
that's a different key. yes, republicans win that one simply because obama isn't running again.	unblock	Dec 2014	#33
I'm confident Hillary would win	demwing	Dec 2014	#22
This entire piece is Axelrod's OPINION. Which sounds pretty spot on.	KittyWampus	Dec 2014	#13
I agree with his opinion	Renew Deal	Dec 2014	#30
I can dig it!!	BrettsJets	Dec 2014	#15
I think Elizabeth Warren would be doing exactly the same thing	MoonRiver	Dec 2014	#21
and - yes, it is meant to be demeaning and marginalizing, like Warren is just a Hillary campaign	djean111	Dec 2014	#26
I don't give a DAMN about how HRC "frames...	99Forever	Dec 2014	#32
I think Axelrod is mostly correct on this.	kentuck	Dec 2014	#34
I put Axelrod in the search line	fadedrose	Feb 2015	#35
Because current affairs always change...taking positions creates the need to change position	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#37

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