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hifiguy

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40. When the two conflict, human rights should always trump property rights.

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 05:11 PM

Dec 2014

Property rights have their place, but not at the expense of massive human suffering.

It's the US form of capitalism that has to go and go now. Democratic socialism is the only plausible way forward.

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It's been a real hoot reading the thread titles in GD. [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 OP

Every country goes through a revolution during the course of its existence Blue_Adept Dec 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #4

Revolutions are just another ruse to fool us. The screaming, "down with the king" the loudest Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #5

Than how does a society progress in your opinion? nt el_bryanto Dec 2014 #7

Progress towards what? Society is a construct people come together to live their lives. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #17

Pretty much. I got screamed at because I sat out Mary's run off election. Most people here have no Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #2

I don't think you should have sat it out, but I'm not going to scream at you... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #8

Revolutions are always ugly and many people are hurt by them. Live and Learn Dec 2014 #3

The desirability of a violent revolution is dubious at best. hifiguy Dec 2014 #39

I like public roads. and libraries and firefighters. And lots of other public endeavours. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #6

+1 A Little Weird Dec 2014 #9

"Getting rid of the state" would put us back into a quasi-feudal KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #13

"Getting rid of the state" is just too close for comfort to... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #16

Tell me about the wonderful infrastructure. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #20

Wonderful? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #22

How could toll roads be built without the property owner's permission and how could the tolls be Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #24

Might makes right, remember. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #29

Why would you stand idly by and allow that? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #31

Stand idly by and allow it? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #32

I'm advocating an end to slavery, war and corruption. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #35

You're advocating for people to be beaten, imprisoned, made homeless and killed Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #36

But the marauders would be met as equals, not as wardens. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #45

When the two conflict, human rights should always trump property rights. hifiguy Dec 2014 #40

Bingo. arcane1 Dec 2014 #51

Just poured mine. stone space Dec 2014 #10

Unrec. Walking away doesn't destroy the state, it merely hands it to the corporate FSogol Dec 2014 #11

Thank you for saying this in a nicer way than I could've. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #18

Your beloved state just voted 9-0 to allow a corporations to not pay people. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #19

Yeah, that's exactly what that decision did. FSogol Dec 2014 #21

'beloved' to go with 'wonderful'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #23

That is the bogeyman meant to keep you frightened and dependent. The people will not tolerate Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #26

At this point Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #30

Ever since the Mike Brown GJ announcement, I've started each morning Half-Century Man Dec 2014 #12

Or, as Dorothy Parker once quipped, "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #15

Be careful what you'd rather treestar Dec 2014 #14

The state won't wither away under the FR... Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #25

We tolerate corporations because the State says we must obey "The System" Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #28

Yes, they would continue their actions. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #33

Here, have a cup of coffee Autumn Dec 2014 #27

We are in a corporate state. There is no opposition to it. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #37

I bet you don't even give a flying hoot about owls. Quantess Dec 2014 #38

Owls = the coolest of all birds hifiguy Dec 2014 #41

Yeeah. Quantess Dec 2014 #42

Aww, little owls. hifiguy Dec 2014 #43

So cute!! Owls are good predators Quantess Dec 2014 #48

But what about the sheep stories? brooklynite Dec 2014 #44

"Given up"? I feel more certain than I ever dared imagine I could feel. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #46

What sheep stories? Quantess Dec 2014 #49

I was thinking about the sheep in the water found in Omaha... brooklynite Dec 2014 #50

Humanity has always organized. LuvNewcastle Dec 2014 #47