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yurbud

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10. we need national referendums and ballot initiatives.

Reply to SamKnause (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:35 PM

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Far from setting up prosecution, torture report tees up pardons [View all] yurbud Dec 2014 OP

Dollars to doughnuts... daleanime Dec 2014 #1

The I ternational treaty the USA signed, says these can't be pardoned on point Dec 2014 #2

The US government hasn't paid any attention to international obligations hifiguy Dec 2014 #5

if we should have learned anything from the Bush era forward... yurbud Dec 2014 #7

The pardon power is a presidential power guaranteed by the Constitution. branford Dec 2014 #14

If Obama pardons Bush, there are no clean hands. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #3

This American will not accept any blame. SamKnause Dec 2014 #6

You and I elected a guy who shrugs impotently about torture. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #8

I voted for the most progressive of what was left in the Democratic primaries in 2008 yurbud Dec 2014 #11

And this is exactly why I will never again vote for the most likely to win. MindPilot Dec 2014 #17

we need national referendums and ballot initiatives. yurbud Dec 2014 #10

many of us voted for Obama the first time hoping he would change course yurbud Dec 2014 #9

He didn't. So now what are we going to do? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #12

what application do you recommend? yurbud Dec 2014 #19

Some of us are opposed. stone space Dec 2014 #13

I suspect that most of us are... you know, in principle. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #15

I'm not sure how you can hold those of us who are opposed responsible. stone space Dec 2014 #16

Prior to 2001, we all accepted that it was wrong, against the law and something americans don't do. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #18

Some of us have been fighting this stuff long before 2001. stone space Dec 2014 #20

I couldn't have foreseen terrorists being portrayed as an "existential threat" to the US yurbud Dec 2014 #21

They are being drafted as we speak. hifiguy Dec 2014 #4

The details of the crimes should be explicitly spelled out in any pardons. stone space Dec 2014 #22

that would be great if the condition of the pardon was a public reading of a detailed confession yurbud Dec 2014 #23

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