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wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
84. I just posted source material and you still contend it's a myth
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 09:26 PM
Nov 2014

Reminds me of the old Eddie Murphy 'it wasn't me' routine - as if merely denying the facts exist will make them not true. This is why it's so difficult to have a discussion with fundamentalists - left and right ones. If the facts don't fit your world view, you just deny they exist.

I would love to say no, but the oligarchs have steamrolled over FDR several trillion times. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #1
Have you been paying attention? PeteSelman Nov 2014 #2
So... I Should Give Up On Voting For Democrats ??? WillyT Nov 2014 #3
I fear that all is lost. PeteSelman Nov 2014 #6
Reagan trickle down has failed miserably and much of what FDR did is still working. But jwirr Nov 2014 #35
No, because the alternative is roided-up republinazis IDemo Nov 2014 #7
they got us by the short and curlies. Too bad they've forgotten what they're supposed to do now librechik Nov 2014 #25
Strange, I heard "FDR Democrats" separated from "liberal, socialist Democrats"... moriah Nov 2014 #70
I don't know why. PeteSelman Nov 2014 #73
We may have to give up on "these" Democrats if we want FDR results world wide wally Nov 2014 #4
Pony lover. woo me with science Nov 2014 #5
Ingrate ??? - Yeah... WillyT Nov 2014 #8
James Buchanan is too "extreme" for the Dems--because he took positions, and that rankles the MisterP Nov 2014 #9
I know this is heresy. newfie11 Nov 2014 #10
If the FDR coalition is dead, it's because the "progressive" purists killed it. baldguy Nov 2014 #11
Oh Please... Do Explain... WillyT Nov 2014 #16
It's dead because all of its members are dead. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #20
I'm still here. Born in 1941. jwirr Nov 2014 #36
Pretty much except for the outliers mmonk Nov 2014 #12
And in some cases, Dems are to the right of Republicans (not just Obama) RiverLover Nov 2014 #13
Intentional betrayal. Scuba Nov 2014 #15
+ 1,000,000,000 !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #18
Sux for me because I'm an FDR Dem...with no representation. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #14
A clue for the GOP-ish wingtip... Octafish Nov 2014 #17
FDR died 70 years ago. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #19
Did The Democratic Party Die Too ??? WillyT Nov 2014 #22
We held it because of segregation. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #27
Really ??? - We Lost The Congress After We Passed The Voting Rights Act ??? - I Don't Think So... WillyT Nov 2014 #37
What do you think LBJ meant when he said, "We have lost the South for a generation?" wyldwolf Nov 2014 #64
Well... I Know It Took A Generation To Do It... WillyT Nov 2014 #69
the south immediately began moving to the Republican side... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #72
And We Democrats Started Moving Away From FDR Priciples That Served Us Well, And Are Now... WillyT Nov 2014 #75
Your long reply has nothing to do with your initial claim. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #76
So... No Response... No Concern... How Do You Propose We Win Again ??? WillyT Nov 2014 #85
stay on task much? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #92
Non Responsive... WillyT Nov 2014 #93
evasive. You completely changed the subject wyldwolf Nov 2014 #95
"Racist southern whites were a key part of the FDR coalition." Erm, not quite. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #58
The Southern faction did, indeed, play a major role wyldwolf Nov 2014 #66
Here's a black perspective, Mary McLeod Bethune's~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #68
Well...... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #71
"FDR let the Dixiecrats 'in to an extent.'" No, they played a major role in the New Deal's passage wyldwolf Nov 2014 #74
"No, they played a major role in the New Deal's passage", I'm sorry, but that's a myth...... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #80
I just posted source material and you still contend it's a myth wyldwolf Nov 2014 #84
Re: "If the facts don't fit your world view, you just deny they exist." AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #87
the source materials contradicted your opinions (what you're calling 'facts') wyldwolf Nov 2014 #96
Those were not opinions. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #102
Hm. Ok, un-sourced, un-linked cites. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #103
I'll let you know when I find the sources I'm looking for. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #104
That one XemaSab Nov 2014 #106
We didn't hold 'congress for 40 years because of FDR.' wyldwolf Nov 2014 #63
“government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob.” FDR adirondacker Nov 2014 #21
Maybe we need an FDR Democratic Party to challenge the Cleita Nov 2014 #23
+1 Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #24
How would you get southern white racists to sign up? geek tragedy Nov 2014 #28
Really? Cleita Nov 2014 #29
They were Democrats under FDR because Lincoln geek tragedy Nov 2014 #44
Well now they have been Republicans for decades now. Cleita Nov 2014 #46
That is not the FDR coalition though. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #47
It can be if our activists explain it to them. eom Cleita Nov 2014 #48
No, it's a modern coalition, for better or worse. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #49
I didn't care about FDR when I was in my early twenties and I was Cleita Nov 2014 #50
No Americans have been thrown into internment camps lately... SidDithers Nov 2014 #26
Anytime anyone mentions FDR someone brings up the internment camps Cleita Nov 2014 #30
Then how about... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #113
That was started by Hoover. eom Cleita Nov 2014 #116
and FDR continued it. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #117
You've made your point. One of the greatest Presidents of this country also made Cleita Nov 2014 #118
And your point is... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #119
No... But A Couple Have Been Killed By Drones... WillyT Nov 2014 #38
Yes BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #31
FDR is dead, period. MineralMan Nov 2014 #32
That was Truman's judgement, through advisement, to use it, though. KoKo Nov 2014 #40
It wasn't built not to be used. MineralMan Nov 2014 #42
*checks my pulse* lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #33
You can sensse his spirit so often in our party. "You have to compromise!" he was fond of saying. raouldukelives Nov 2014 #34
I do not think FDR would have been for TPP, the ending of public education or environmental jwirr Nov 2014 #43
FDR....Who? KoKo Nov 2014 #39
I have read this post and apparently it is dead. So what the hell do we care what happens to Social jwirr Nov 2014 #41
Recommend...you are addressing the Roosevelt programs that KoKo Nov 2014 #52
I agree. One of the things I think that could have been done better is talking more about the things jwirr Nov 2014 #55
Agree with what you say. KoKo Nov 2014 #60
I think it may even be making a difference already. How many of us are spending as much at jwirr Nov 2014 #61
It died because FDR wasn't Progressive enough maxrandb Nov 2014 #45
Here's a short snip from a great article that explains why we want FDR progressivism to LIVE RiverLover Nov 2014 #51
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #53
My pleasure WillyT!!! RiverLover Nov 2014 #56
This Democratic Party is nothing like my father's. Drahthaardogs Nov 2014 #54
Not at all. He campaigned as one, though. And he won big!! RiverLover Nov 2014 #57
He never did break out those comfortable walking shoes did he? Drahthaardogs Nov 2014 #82
The Turd Wayers want FDR gone from OUR party... 99Forever Nov 2014 #59
The FDR you're imagining never existed. Just as the Reagan the right imagines never existed wyldwolf Nov 2014 #62
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! KoKo Nov 2014 #77
How about... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #78
I'm okay with that......are you? KoKo Nov 2014 #79
definitely, which I why I always suggest it. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #81
Where are the links you demand from others? RiverLover Nov 2014 #86
glad you asked. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #94
Thanks for the links. But NOTHING here negates what he did for us while in office. RiverLover Nov 2014 #99
which isn't what I contended wyldwolf Nov 2014 #100
I'm not idolizing him. He came to be a populist slowly. I've read alot. What he DID though in ofc RiverLover Nov 2014 #101
Okay...what about his "New Deal" and "Regulating the Banks?" KoKo Nov 2014 #89
It was the center ground wyldwolf Nov 2014 #97
Way to go, Koko! Nicely played. :-) RiverLover Nov 2014 #83
I hate to say this, but..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #88
all you've offered me is... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #98
LOL !!! - IRONIC !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #105
Again, you reveal how fundamentalists have different definitions wyldwolf Nov 2014 #107
blahblahblah If the FDR I studied is not real, then who said this: Zorra Nov 2014 #108
So you 'studied' FDR and came away with one quote? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #110
I simply don't have any more time to waste on RW corporatist bullshit. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #111
Cop out alert!!! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #112
Buh-bye! Zorra Nov 2014 #114
aww! You found time to come back and say bye! wyldwolf Nov 2014 #115
FDR's Democratic Propaganda RiverLover Nov 2014 #65
Honestly I'd like to see the democratic party go into a more socialist direction. We need to craigmatic Nov 2014 #67
Me too. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #91
FDR fought Wall Street, helped the unemployed become employed, and more... RiverLover Nov 2014 #90
FDR's policies are still alive in Europe. Strong safety net, high taxes, pampango Nov 2014 #109
Huh? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #120
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