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rhett o rick

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14. I kind of woke up to it in 2008.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:09 PM
Nov 2014

This is real conspiracy stuff so expect the CT deniers to swoop in.
By the end of 2007 I was convinced that our rulers (at the time I thought it was at the Cheney level) were all set up to "temporarily extend" the Bush presidency because of some trumped up national emergency. But when I saw Bush and Cheney turn from belligerent, egotistical bullies into whimpering dogs that crawled out of DC with their tails between their legs, I decided there was a higher power pulling the strings. And it makes sense once you think about it. I imagine it goes back decades but at least we can understand how the CIA/NSA/FBI etc. could increase their powers during the Lost Bush Decade. They had a great excuse, the second "Cheney's Pearl Harbor", an unlimited budget, and zero Congressional oversight. So it's easy for me to deduce that there is likely a group of people that together pull the strings, at least at the macro level, of our government. And they would prefer Bush for president or McCain or even HRC, but they are not threatened by Obama.
I think it's a mistake to believe that when Obama walked into office that he wrested control of everything from those that had it. I bet the NSA/CIA Security State have a lot of secrets that they don't tell him about. If nothing else, they have the power to embarrass him badly. And they have an unlimited budget.
Having said all that, I still believe (or at least consciously fool myself) that we the people can change things. But that belief took a big hit when Sen Sanders came out an told what would be risked if they decide to run for president against the Oligarchy (my word). His statement forced me back into a reality that isn't good but probably necessary. Can we ask that much of him or others?

Sorry, just had to unload that.

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #1
absolutely k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #2
They must have the votes. joshcryer Nov 2014 #3
I guess the Democratic Party is going to be yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #4
Nah ...Obama will keep trying to make friends by signing all the repukes bills. L0oniX Nov 2014 #13
K and R bigwillq Nov 2014 #5
The Dream Team BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #6
+1 woo me with science Nov 2014 #8
K&R for democratic representatives rather than corporate sellouts. woo me with science Nov 2014 #7
We need hundreds like these two in Congress. Scuba Nov 2014 #9
Hear, hear. woo me with science Nov 2014 #10
I don't believe the President has a choice in this. The Ruling Oligarchs are making this rhett o rick Nov 2014 #11
^^^THIS^^^ ...Geithner, Paulson, Bernanke oligarch puppets. L0oniX Nov 2014 #12
I kind of woke up to it in 2008. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #14
I kinda thought about it back in the late 60's when I lived in Haight Ashbury... L0oniX Nov 2014 #17
Over stating zipplewrath Nov 2014 #18
Hmmm, none of our "pragmatic centrists" seem to LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #15
Well, I suppose that's my cue Recursion Nov 2014 #20
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #16
More 11-dimensional bullsh!t foisted upon us by a slick used car salesman. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #19
K & R! lonestarnot Nov 2014 #21
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