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sabrina 1

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14. THIS is the problem, this idiot. He underestimates the people, particularly Liberals who saw what
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 03:05 AM
Nov 2014

they were doing and said so, over and over again. Of course they had their emissaries out trashing anyone who dared to object to what they were doing.

The Left, those they define as 'left', are their biggest threat. You have to be blind not to see the growing attempts even on 'left' political forums, to try to marginalize the Left.

SOME may have been fooled by them, but many of us were not.

I despise people like this, but they are running our party. Now, how do we get rid of them?

Next up is the Free Trade Agreement, the Chained CPI, For the Corporations, By the Corporations.

Private Health Ins. Corps were failing, they had to do something to save them. They outsourced jobs, putting many people out of work. THAT caused a decline in their profits.

Most of us who opposed this bill still oppose it. But they won and now we have to try to stop them from fast tracking more of their damaging legislation. Will Dems stop them, I wouldn't bet on it.

He's also the one who said federal subsidies were deliberately left out to incentivize states Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #1
Same sort of crap is going on with TPP wavesofeuphoria Nov 2014 #2
Yup. And it worked. progressoid Nov 2014 #3
As Progressives, what are we to make of this? New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #4
England's Health Service is on the way to being privatized. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #5
Hear! Hear! Lower cost services, not a money whirlpool for corporations. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #9
I am seriously worried that is going to happen here in Korea as well davidpdx Nov 2014 #15
+1 840high Nov 2014 #76
considering that what's called the ACA is, essentially the GOP answer to Single-Payer Volaris Nov 2014 #89
Right wingers are all over this all right. Better check his bank account . . . brush Nov 2014 #104
Unfortunately, unelected wiseguys like Gruber are the actual leaders HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #6
The leaders of the party are, in practical fact, the unelected people who the politicians look to Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #13
Well, yes, but shaping campaigns to appeal to specific donor classes HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #17
Good examples of "Elected" politician bad stuff fadedrose Nov 2014 #73
k/r when some of us tried to point out that this was a big french kiss to insurance companies nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #7
Crying racist is an effective weapon New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #11
Using racism in this way works on some white people (which I'm not) Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #90
Amen TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #12
EXACTLY what I have been saying dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #16
Yep. 840high Nov 2014 #77
It gets worse ... BKLawyer Nov 2014 #8
"...this problem would begin affecting people years hence." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #10
You do realize you're carrying Heritage Foundation water? nt MADem Nov 2014 #26
THIS is the problem, this idiot. He underestimates the people, particularly Liberals who saw what sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #14
Smells like right-wing hooey. 6000eliot Nov 2014 #18
It is right wing hooey.This is The Daily Signal, wingnut video outlet of the Heritage Foundation. MADem Nov 2014 #20
Some of us are perfectly capabable of listen to the man's words B2G Nov 2014 #22
Yeah--I'd say welcome to DU but it appears you've been around for a bit. MADem Nov 2014 #29
Would you like about 500 alternate sources? B2G Nov 2014 #33
No, I think I'll need 535. You know, all the Congresspersons who voted for and against the ACA. MADem Nov 2014 #38
If you type Heritage Foundation one more time, you win a pony. B2G Nov 2014 #40
Heritage Foundation. MADem Nov 2014 #42
Did he or did he not call the American people stupid? B2G Nov 2014 #46
So what? The American people ARE stupid. He's RIGHT. MADem Nov 2014 #48
And this is why we lose. nt B2G Nov 2014 #50
No--why we lose is because some Democrats want to deny health care to Americans who aren't rich, MADem Nov 2014 #52
I believe single payer should now be... CANDO Nov 2014 #58
We can't afford single payer TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #59
Even Bernie Sanders doesn't call the ACA a "fucking joke." It's a damn WAY STATION. MADem Nov 2014 #68
FYI.....If I want to call it whatever.... CANDO Nov 2014 #69
Fine--because I'm not in the habit of giving "permission" to strangers who do not share my values MADem Nov 2014 #71
Whatever....yada yada word salad... CANDO Nov 2014 #72
Think for you? I don't care what you think. I don't "think" much of your attitude towards the MADem Nov 2014 #75
The low post count backup is cute. Egnever Nov 2014 #81
Thats some strong shit you're smokin CANDO Nov 2014 #97
You have fun here, now, you bully talking Internet Tough Guy, you! MADem Nov 2014 #98
The harder you hit them AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #102
Did you bother to listen to the entire presentation? Darb Nov 2014 #57
Times a million AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #101
hmmm handmade34 Nov 2014 #105
The Republicans seem to be better at covering their tracks AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #106
Are you stupid sir? TshaiRedhair Nov 2014 #70
Yeah...... AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #100
Sorry--no sale. You're a bit late to the party, too. nt MADem Nov 2014 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Nov 2014 #78
Of course it is. Egnever Nov 2014 #80
+1,000 !!!! MADem Nov 2014 #82
This is corporatism at its finest. JRLeft Nov 2014 #27
I'm absolutely disgusted by this. Makes me want to just give up completely. Seeking Serenity Nov 2014 #19
What are you griping about? MADem Nov 2014 #43
Please, go take an upper. My goodness. This is a statement taken out of context and you're having a RBInMaine Nov 2014 #51
I think everyone needs to read this shit. MADem Nov 2014 #21
Weasel words after THREE videos surface B2G Nov 2014 #23
Can't believe how eager YOU ARE (so long as we're playing that game, sport) to tout the Heritage MADem Nov 2014 #25
Ronan is so 'helpful' B2G Nov 2014 #28
What's so funny to cause you to "LMAO?" That people who didn't have health care have it now? MADem Nov 2014 #31
I'm throwing health care under the bus? B2G Nov 2014 #35
No you aren't. The Heritage Foundation's GOAL--which you are eagerly championing--is to GET RID MADem Nov 2014 #36
So a guy we cited AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #103
You seriously think the GOP didn't have this shit in their back pocket all along? MADem Nov 2014 #107
I don't care what the MF Republicans did or did not have AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #111
No. It was not. MADem Nov 2014 #112
I don't excuse his words gmb92 Nov 2014 #61
Sure. This MIT Professor.. Segami Nov 2014 #30
Perhaps because NOBODY ASKED....? Ya think? MADem Nov 2014 #32
He's a smart MIT Professor and now he needs to be prompted Segami Nov 2014 #34
Why are you carrying Heritage water? MADem Nov 2014 #37
If the ACA goes under the bus... Segami Nov 2014 #45
Excuse me--you could have read the bill and determined where the funding streams originated. MADem Nov 2014 #47
Nailed it MADem. Darb Nov 2014 #64
I have good insurance because of it. Don't really care how it passed. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #24
Poor Megyn Kelly: This has hit her ESPECIALLY hard Old Nick Nov 2014 #39
Well, we had to pass it Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #41
Gruber is a hubristic asshole, but the author of the article is completely out to lunch Azathoth Nov 2014 #44
It's straight out of a right wing think tank, that's why! nt MADem Nov 2014 #49
That's ridiculous. Darb Nov 2014 #53
Sure. Segami Nov 2014 #54
Listening now, first thing I noticed was the introduction of John Gruber, Darb Nov 2014 #55
Little of the media is mentioning that he was most closely tied to RomneyCare gmb92 Nov 2014 #62
You just won the thread, Darb. Number23 Nov 2014 #65
Indeed--boom goes the dynamite! nt MADem Nov 2014 #67
Not only that, but his technical consulting work wasn’t particularly obvious. In fact, Gruber was Chathamization Nov 2014 #94
Incredibly informative, and done by incredibly smart people Darb Nov 2014 #56
I don’t want to listen to the whole thing, I want to listen to the 30 seconds that make him sound Chathamization Nov 2014 #93
Great discussion. Too Bad Fux Snooze and others are running with that partial, Darb Nov 2014 #63
Plus a million. Exactly. Amazing how many people are willing to swallow this wingnut swill. MADem Nov 2014 #66
Gruber was first a Romney adviser and RomneyCare architect gmb92 Nov 2014 #60
Doesn't SCOTUS have the last word on this fadedrose Nov 2014 #74
On what basis is Gruber properly described as an "Obamacare Architect"? cheapdate Nov 2014 #79
On this one B2G Nov 2014 #86
good posts in this thread Psephos Nov 2014 #87
Most actually B2G Nov 2014 #88
I think many of today's liberals are only Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #92
I don't get it. Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #91
Thanks for that. cheapdate Nov 2014 #96
Do you know how much Jane Hamsher has Obama Derangement Syndrome? MADem Nov 2014 #108
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #83
The Affordable Care Act was NEVER about health care, NM_Birder Nov 2014 #84
Which is the bigger shame? dawg Nov 2014 #85
kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #95
K&R...Thanks for posting, Segami red dog 1 Nov 2014 #99
How much will this influence the SCOTUS' next decision on the ACA? He is trying to hurt ACA kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #110
What are you talking about "his timing?" markpkessinger Nov 2014 #113
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