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New Deal Dave

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11. Crying racist is an effective weapon

Reply to nationalize the fed (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 11, 2014, 11:51 PM

Nov 2014

"We were called 'racists.'"

Well, that seems to be an effective weapon.

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Obamacare Architect Jon Gruber Says DECEIVING AMERICANS Necessary to Pass Bill [View all] Segami Nov 2014 OP

He's also the one who said federal subsidies were deliberately left out to incentivize states Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #1

Same sort of crap is going on with TPP wavesofeuphoria Nov 2014 #2

Yup. And it worked. progressoid Nov 2014 #3

As Progressives, what are we to make of this? New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #4

England's Health Service is on the way to being privatized. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #5

Hear! Hear! Lower cost services, not a money whirlpool for corporations. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #9

I am seriously worried that is going to happen here in Korea as well davidpdx Nov 2014 #15

+1 840high Nov 2014 #76

considering that what's called the ACA is, essentially the GOP answer to Single-Payer Volaris Nov 2014 #89

Right wingers are all over this all right. Better check his bank account . . . brush Nov 2014 #104

Unfortunately, unelected wiseguys like Gruber are the actual leaders HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #6

The leaders of the party are, in practical fact, the unelected people who the politicians look to Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #13

Well, yes, but shaping campaigns to appeal to specific donor classes HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #17

Good examples of "Elected" politician bad stuff fadedrose Nov 2014 #73

k/r when some of us tried to point out that this was a big french kiss to insurance companies nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #7

Crying racist is an effective weapon New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #11

Using racism in this way works on some white people (which I'm not) Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #90

Amen TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #12

EXACTLY what I have been saying dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #16

Yep. 840high Nov 2014 #77

It gets worse ... BKLawyer Nov 2014 #8

"...this problem would begin affecting people years hence." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #10

You do realize you're carrying Heritage Foundation water? nt MADem Nov 2014 #26

THIS is the problem, this idiot. He underestimates the people, particularly Liberals who saw what sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #14

Smells like right-wing hooey. 6000eliot Nov 2014 #18

It is right wing hooey.This is The Daily Signal, wingnut video outlet of the Heritage Foundation. MADem Nov 2014 #20

Some of us are perfectly capabable of listen to the man's words B2G Nov 2014 #22

Yeah--I'd say welcome to DU but it appears you've been around for a bit. MADem Nov 2014 #29

Would you like about 500 alternate sources? B2G Nov 2014 #33

No, I think I'll need 535. You know, all the Congresspersons who voted for and against the ACA. MADem Nov 2014 #38

If you type Heritage Foundation one more time, you win a pony. B2G Nov 2014 #40

Heritage Foundation. MADem Nov 2014 #42

Did he or did he not call the American people stupid? B2G Nov 2014 #46

So what? The American people ARE stupid. He's RIGHT. MADem Nov 2014 #48

And this is why we lose. nt B2G Nov 2014 #50

No--why we lose is because some Democrats want to deny health care to Americans who aren't rich, MADem Nov 2014 #52

I believe single payer should now be... CANDO Nov 2014 #58

We can't afford single payer TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #59

Even Bernie Sanders doesn't call the ACA a "fucking joke." It's a damn WAY STATION. MADem Nov 2014 #68

FYI.....If I want to call it whatever.... CANDO Nov 2014 #69

Fine--because I'm not in the habit of giving "permission" to strangers who do not share my values MADem Nov 2014 #71

Whatever....yada yada word salad... CANDO Nov 2014 #72

Think for you? I don't care what you think. I don't "think" much of your attitude towards the MADem Nov 2014 #75

The low post count backup is cute. Egnever Nov 2014 #81

Thats some strong shit you're smokin CANDO Nov 2014 #97

You have fun here, now, you bully talking Internet Tough Guy, you! MADem Nov 2014 #98

The harder you hit them AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #102

Did you bother to listen to the entire presentation? Darb Nov 2014 #57

Times a million AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #101

hmmm handmade34 Nov 2014 #105

The Republicans seem to be better at covering their tracks AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #106

Are you stupid sir? TshaiRedhair Nov 2014 #70

Yeah...... AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #100

Sorry--no sale. You're a bit late to the party, too. nt MADem Nov 2014 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Nov 2014 #78

Of course it is. Egnever Nov 2014 #80

+1,000 !!!! MADem Nov 2014 #82

This is corporatism at its finest. JRLeft Nov 2014 #27

I'm absolutely disgusted by this. Makes me want to just give up completely. Seeking Serenity Nov 2014 #19

What are you griping about? MADem Nov 2014 #43

Please, go take an upper. My goodness. This is a statement taken out of context and you're having a RBInMaine Nov 2014 #51

I think everyone needs to read this shit. MADem Nov 2014 #21

Weasel words after THREE videos surface B2G Nov 2014 #23

Can't believe how eager YOU ARE (so long as we're playing that game, sport) to tout the Heritage MADem Nov 2014 #25

Ronan is so 'helpful' B2G Nov 2014 #28

What's so funny to cause you to "LMAO?" That people who didn't have health care have it now? MADem Nov 2014 #31

I'm throwing health care under the bus? B2G Nov 2014 #35

No you aren't. The Heritage Foundation's GOAL--which you are eagerly championing--is to GET RID MADem Nov 2014 #36

So a guy we cited AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #103

You seriously think the GOP didn't have this shit in their back pocket all along? MADem Nov 2014 #107

I don't care what the MF Republicans did or did not have AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #111

No. It was not. MADem Nov 2014 #112

I don't excuse his words gmb92 Nov 2014 #61

Sure. This MIT Professor.. Segami Nov 2014 #30

Perhaps because NOBODY ASKED....? Ya think? MADem Nov 2014 #32

He's a smart MIT Professor and now he needs to be prompted Segami Nov 2014 #34

Why are you carrying Heritage water? MADem Nov 2014 #37

If the ACA goes under the bus... Segami Nov 2014 #45

Excuse me--you could have read the bill and determined where the funding streams originated. MADem Nov 2014 #47

Nailed it MADem. Darb Nov 2014 #64

I have good insurance because of it. Don't really care how it passed. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #24

Poor Megyn Kelly: This has hit her ESPECIALLY hard Old Nick Nov 2014 #39

Well, we had to pass it Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #41

Gruber is a hubristic asshole, but the author of the article is completely out to lunch Azathoth Nov 2014 #44

It's straight out of a right wing think tank, that's why! nt MADem Nov 2014 #49

That's ridiculous. Darb Nov 2014 #53

Sure. Segami Nov 2014 #54

Listening now, first thing I noticed was the introduction of John Gruber, Darb Nov 2014 #55

Little of the media is mentioning that he was most closely tied to RomneyCare gmb92 Nov 2014 #62

You just won the thread, Darb. Number23 Nov 2014 #65

Indeed--boom goes the dynamite! nt MADem Nov 2014 #67

Not only that, but his technical consulting work wasn’t particularly obvious. In fact, Gruber was Chathamization Nov 2014 #94

Incredibly informative, and done by incredibly smart people Darb Nov 2014 #56

I don’t want to listen to the whole thing, I want to listen to the 30 seconds that make him sound Chathamization Nov 2014 #93

Great discussion. Too Bad Fux Snooze and others are running with that partial, Darb Nov 2014 #63

Plus a million. Exactly. Amazing how many people are willing to swallow this wingnut swill. MADem Nov 2014 #66

Gruber was first a Romney adviser and RomneyCare architect gmb92 Nov 2014 #60

Doesn't SCOTUS have the last word on this fadedrose Nov 2014 #74

On what basis is Gruber properly described as an "Obamacare Architect"? cheapdate Nov 2014 #79

On this one B2G Nov 2014 #86

good posts in this thread Psephos Nov 2014 #87

Most actually B2G Nov 2014 #88

I think many of today's liberals are only Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #92

I don't get it. Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #91

Thanks for that. cheapdate Nov 2014 #96

Do you know how much Jane Hamsher has Obama Derangement Syndrome? MADem Nov 2014 #108

kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #83

The Affordable Care Act was NEVER about health care, NM_Birder Nov 2014 #84

Which is the bigger shame? dawg Nov 2014 #85

kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #95

K&R...Thanks for posting, Segami red dog 1 Nov 2014 #99

How much will this influence the SCOTUS' next decision on the ACA? He is trying to hurt ACA kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #110

What are you talking about "his timing?" markpkessinger Nov 2014 #113