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The Vrude

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15. Why

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:46 PM

Apr 2012

do we get so up in arms over this? Do we see an extreme difference between Bush the warmonger and his Patriot Act and Directive 51...versus Obama and his perpetuation of wars and new wars in Libya, etc., pushing for war with Iran, and Obama's NDAA and all the groping at airports, etc...

if Romney gets in, he'll just keep on doing all the same stuff the banks have required of Obama and Bush. Elections are illusions. The Wizard is still behind the curtain. Occupy needs to keep ramming that home.

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OK. I am calling BS and sending out a warning but I wish I could somehow do more. [View all] tk2kewl Apr 2012 OP

realclearpolitics cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #1

Yeah, it smells to high heaven. Skidmore Apr 2012 #2

I agree. freshwest Apr 2012 #3

Why have the dems been silent on state laws that make it difficult to vote? CrispyQ Apr 2012 #4

it scares the ever living shit out of me tk2kewl Apr 2012 #7

But it should never be close. randome Apr 2012 #34

and the media wants a horse race ThomThom Apr 2012 #49

You're too right. xtraxritical Apr 2012 #61

exactly marshall gaines Apr 2012 #24

VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT be happy and sane again! xtraxritical Apr 2012 #62

We did that in 2008.. sendero Apr 2012 #65

I always do vote straight Democratic. RebelOne Apr 2012 #71

Some blue states have done something about it. CA and WA. freshwest Apr 2012 #37

Don't know what your talking about. My Dems haven't been silent. sybylla Apr 2012 #43

I suspect that a lot of that reason is that the M$M doesn't report on it when they do madokie Apr 2012 #46

Because, they too, are culpable. Enough said? juajen Apr 2012 #58

The problem is, the ones who can change bad laws & policy, CrispyQ Apr 2012 #68

Agreed! felix_numinous Apr 2012 #5

You're right. GOTV is going to be very important this year. MineralMan Apr 2012 #6

poll numbers are manufactured obxhead Apr 2012 #8

the fourth estate, what a sorry state tk2kewl Apr 2012 #9

The Media, and BOTH Political Parties NEED for it to appear to be a "Horse Race". bvar22 Apr 2012 #26

this is so when they steal the election they can say look the polls said they were even leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #10

yep tk2kewl Apr 2012 #11

man i so hate this fighting with people who should know better leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #13

That's why the margin HAS to be * * TOO BIG TO STEAL * * annabanana Apr 2012 #25

I smell smoke too. n/t CanOfWhoopAss Apr 2012 #12

Well you can't steal elections Phlem Apr 2012 #14

Why The Vrude Apr 2012 #15

no doubt in my mind that obama needs to do a 180 on many issues tk2kewl Apr 2012 #17

It's not crap ("exactly that") The Vrude Apr 2012 #27

A 360. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #29

conceding that i disagree with obama on a lot of things in no way equates obama to rmoney tk2kewl Apr 2012 #53

MIRT - Cleanup on Aisle 5. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #54

Yeah, Dems and Republicans are the same. Tell that to folks in Wisconsin, Michigan, etc emulatorloo Apr 2012 #59

Rude Vrude has been served with a large pepperoni with extra cheese. Thanks MIRT Team! stevenleser Apr 2012 #64

You don't see the insidious changes siligut Apr 2012 #67

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #16

K&R (n/t) a2liberal Apr 2012 #18

Gallup is a LIE-BASED TOOL... CoffeeCat Apr 2012 #19

thanks for your insight tk2kewl Apr 2012 #20

What I don't get is, how many people fall for this...time after time. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #31

Most People Just Don't Pay Attention To Politics HangOnKids Apr 2012 #60

Good thinking Gman Apr 2012 #21

Corporate Media Propaganda fascisthunter Apr 2012 #22

Rmoney still NOT the Politicalboi Apr 2012 #23

At This point the real goal may not the White House but the Senate and House. Ford_Prefect Apr 2012 #28

The Big RW Pacs are shifting focus to the state level as we speak. nt 12AngryBorneoWildmen Apr 2012 #55

Yesss! I think this will be a repeat of Bush/Gore... Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #57

This is good! (??) chknltl Apr 2012 #30

Find the source Taverner Apr 2012 #32

Did Che recite those words each time he executed someone? eomer Apr 2012 #47

I agree with the statement, even if Che didn't always live by it Taverner Apr 2012 #63

Didn't always live up to it? eomer Apr 2012 #66

And Batista didn't murder? And the CIA doesn't murder? Taverner Apr 2012 #69

Yes, absolutely, so I won't promote them in my sig line or anywhere else. eomer Apr 2012 #70

Despite what you may think, Che Guevara did a number of great things... Taverner Apr 2012 #73

In the end, the Cuban Revolution made up for any damages in terms of people helped Taverner Apr 2012 #75

I know many Cubans who've escaped in recent years, so I know that the fruits of Castro and Che... eomer Apr 2012 #76

OUR sanctions are killing Cuba Taverner Apr 2012 #77

No doubt there are Cuban rightwingers who want horrible things. eomer Apr 2012 #78

Why are you surprised at how many stupid people there are? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #33

Polling northoftheborder Apr 2012 #35

Romney necnk and neck and ahead of O in some polls brush Apr 2012 #36

I agree. These polls scare the crap out of me. SunSeeker Apr 2012 #38

Put all the polls together and it looks kind of close RZM Apr 2012 #39

Check out the over all tracking on RCP... DaDeacon Apr 2012 #40

The country is roughly evenly divided Recursion Apr 2012 #41

BDS is high schlagehundenancee Apr 2012 #42

Why do you find these polls so hard to believe? MadHound Apr 2012 #44

Yeah you add up the demographics of women and latinos and ... Ganja Ninja Apr 2012 #45

Why would anyone in their right mind think they would stop stealing elections? lunatica Apr 2012 #48

See it works like this... Javaman Apr 2012 #50

the fix is in from the media spanone Apr 2012 #51

We need to count the people and take their names that were refused Dustlawyer Apr 2012 #52

If it's not "close" it's not exciting. Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #56

Yep, that's about the size of it. Chorophyll Apr 2012 #72

even crazier: all the articles written about the polls nt ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #74