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heaven05

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53. I entirely believe

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 02:33 PM

Oct 2014

you hit the nail on the head about the media, 2000 the big theft-2003wmd madness, even the NYT was in on that lie among others to justify an illegal invasion of another sovereign nation -2004 another big theft. But people don't want to wake up. I won't believe...if 2014 ends up a total GOP victory or the media giving us numbers on voter turnout. They have been bought and totally compromised by RW MONEY. Period.

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Is it possible the media is manufacturing consent for a stolen election? [View all] J_J_ Oct 2014 OP

Trying. Just like they had Republican voters shocked at Obama's '12 victory. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #1

We Need To Target The Media billhicks76 Oct 2014 #105

Agree 100%. What kind of "democracy" allows for PRIVATELY-OWNED voting machines?! WinkyDink Nov 2014 #135

Possible and likely. Atman Oct 2014 #2

Not "possible," not "probable." Dead certain. hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2014 #24

True Dat! The media is one of their biggest tools in the PTB's arsenal. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #41

You arent wrong, but the alternative to Hillary is Women hating, killing at worst, republicans randys1 Oct 2014 #54

"alternative to Hillary is Women hating, killing at worst, republicans" - thats a false dichotomy Veilex Oct 2014 #104

Wow, she got the nomination ALREADY?!?!?! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #109

agreed! today i heard chuck todd reporting that hopemountain Oct 2014 #103

I would be more than happy to get the health coverage provided by some of the big media companies onenote Oct 2014 #121

Yes, but note that the Republicans were crowing about Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2014 #3

unless we just got lucky, and someone stopped them from stealing it J_J_ Oct 2014 #4

Highly likely davekriss Oct 2014 #55

Wow, you would make an excellent fiction writer. tritsofme Oct 2014 #77

I agree--How could anyone think Karl Rove would ever do anything dishonest nikto Oct 2014 #107

Excellent fiction writer? More like ripped from the headlines... liberalla Oct 2014 #113

Rove's IT guy died in a small plane crash right before he had to testify on 2004 election J_J_ Oct 2014 #127

This is the worst, most corporate media of my life. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #5

Bingo. Atman Oct 2014 #8

You aint kiddin' Populist_Prole Oct 2014 #23

It's more likely wishful thinking gollygee Oct 2014 #6

how on earth do you know that the electorate "knows republicans are responsible"? cali Oct 2014 #7

I'm not worries so much about "theft." Except for the E-Voting machines. Atman Oct 2014 #11

It is cowardly to ignore the stealing RobertEarl Oct 2014 #18

....and the fact that the dems will not make an issue of the bbgrunt Oct 2014 #27

Dems have. RobertEarl Oct 2014 #31

our paper ballots are still counted on diebold accuvote machines J_J_ Oct 2014 #67

Diebold left NC RobertEarl Oct 2014 #81

Diebold steals elections, no question. But what steals elections even better is voter suppression randys1 Oct 2014 #118

poll fraud must precede vote fraud, Cali elehhhhna Oct 2014 #59

Good lord, how many people are in on the conspiracy? tritsofme Oct 2014 #78

Some in Wisconsin are discussing the info. of pollsters and dramatic swings in voting midnight Oct 2014 #94

even Rand Paul knows everyone hates republicans! J_J_ Oct 2014 #63

+1 onenote Oct 2014 #122

UNREC brooklynite Oct 2014 #9

Especially when those advertisers are Super PACs with a billion in cash to spend. arcane1 Oct 2014 #20

...which isn't being spent on the national media. brooklynite Oct 2014 #22

BINGO. The corporate media never asks where all this new flood of money goes...to THEM! Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #28

yep it's all about the ratings Phlem Oct 2014 #44

and that makes for a 'we all know the media is more than fucked up' mantra spanone Oct 2014 #69

How do you break into over 50,000 voting districts with different ballots to CK_John Oct 2014 #10

How? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #21

Not true. Our county has 16 towns and has to reset all machines every election. CK_John Oct 2014 #34

Reset is not coding, or programming RobertEarl Oct 2014 #36

Again your wrong, NY has at least 20 parties that drop off and get re added from CK_John Oct 2014 #74

Oh? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #79

Democrats in every county in Texas need to look into what happened in Collin County Texas DhhD Oct 2014 #96

They sure do RobertEarl Oct 2014 #97

All you need is a media to tell you who won.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #26

You don't beak into the ballot boxes, silly... tinrobot Oct 2014 #38

Electronic voting machines. Also, so easy to misplace or invalidate 50,000 or so paper ones. Hekate Oct 2014 #132

No Progressive dog Oct 2014 #12

GOTV solves it all!! notrightatall Oct 2014 #13

winner, winner, chicken dinner SoCalDem Oct 2014 #14

The Media Just Won't Go There colsohlibgal Oct 2014 #15

+100 ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #45

More than likely. Remember election night in 2000? When Rather read the exit polls, which had always freshwest Oct 2014 #16

Media is OWNED by the assholes who pay to steal elections. Good point valerief Oct 2014 #17

They want that Super PAC cash, that's why! arcane1 Oct 2014 #19

The media are owned by the 1%, and they have an agenda to sell to the unwashed masses, blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #25

Could you please use a different source for the list of 14... SidDithers Oct 2014 #29

Those are the same machines that allowed the Dems to win in '06, '08 and '12, right? brooklynite Oct 2014 #32

You just had to do it? Elmergantry Oct 2014 #48

Yes, of course. I NEVER believe the 'statistically tied' polls. NO ONE votes Republican! joanbarnes Oct 2014 #30

possible?! nope...actual noiretextatique Oct 2014 #33

Of course. Phlem Oct 2014 #35

"voting fuckery" is an excellent term. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #40

“Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear.” Edgar Allen Poe. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #37

The media. Believe me, this crossed my mind. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #39

That's certainly what I've been thinking. FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #42

The Koch brothers own the media as well as the Republicans. asjr Oct 2014 #43

I haven't understood why they've been so anxious to write off Mark Begich Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #46

maybe they are planning more votes than registered voters again J_J_ Oct 2014 #66

Yes, I remember that. Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #72

Abso-fucking-lutely! 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #47

It's MORE than possible moonbeam23 Oct 2014 #49

When the Media wants something, it gets it AZ Progressive Oct 2014 #50

PS. You are fed news, you don't get news from the MSM Phlem Oct 2014 #51

More than "possible". I would argue that they are deliberately doing this. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #52

What you said. SoapBox Oct 2014 #56

Yep, cons will never give up and they lie about everything, by our nature we tell the truth randys1 Oct 2014 #58

I entirely believe heaven05 Oct 2014 #53

Been saying for weeks that the polls are flawed.. hoosierlib Oct 2014 #57

More like obfuscation... Vilis Veritas Oct 2014 #60

This will ALWAYS be possible until we fix our election mechanism. stillwaiting Oct 2014 #61

We don't have an election mechanism, we have one in each State, which vary greatly and Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #71

This is the second time that you have communicated with me in a condescending manner. stillwaiting Oct 2014 #75

Your personal attack is without merit. What I said was just factual. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #116

Let's see: 2012, Obama is re-elected Seeking Serenity Oct 2014 #62

Exactly - 2008 and 2012 PeaceNikki Oct 2014 #65

Awesome rant. If the people who complain that elections are stolen really believed KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #98

she 'watched' an election where a hand recount was demanded J_J_ Oct 2014 #125

Oh, I think it's very possible, with the amount of campaign cash that flows their way.. mountain grammy Oct 2014 #64

Quite possibly. When I hear of the "overwhelming " odds that the Repubs are set to take over AzDar Oct 2014 #68

I remember hearing predictions that the Democrats would take control in 2006 onenote Oct 2014 #128

A "The election was stolen!!" thread prior to the election taking place. BKH70041 Oct 2014 #70

Have you not heard of perception management? raven mad Oct 2014 #73

"Accept Defeat" <--- newest DCCC fundraising email J_J_ Oct 2014 #76

Well duh, anytime any Democrat anywhere loses any election, it is vote fraud. tritsofme Oct 2014 #80

Why? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #82

And Obama's Justice Department is just fine with it? tritsofme Oct 2014 #84

What CT? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #85

Post #59 in this thread for starters. tritsofme Oct 2014 #86

Spell it out RobertEarl Oct 2014 #88

Not sure what you're looking for. tritsofme Oct 2014 #90

You don't think? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #95

I think a large part of the reason the GOP gets elected is due to the enormous efforts Rex Oct 2014 #83

Is the Pope catholic? loudsue Oct 2014 #87

The bastards are owned by the 1% corporate vultures workinclasszero Oct 2014 #89

I'm glad someone else is saying this out loud gregcrawford Oct 2014 #91

don't forget the Karl Rove factor tiptonic Oct 2014 #92

limbaugh rattled off a list of dem election fraud 'evidence' today so it may be certainot Oct 2014 #93

Oh they Lying. Cha Oct 2014 #99

Diebold. maced666 Oct 2014 #100

Democratic wins in 2006, 2010 and 2012 on the same voting machines.... brooklynite Oct 2014 #120

We thought the same in 2010 davidn3600 Oct 2014 #101

Yes. elleng Oct 2014 #102

self fulfilling prophecy. barbtries Oct 2014 #106

Doubtful. More likely we're seeing standard 2nd term midterm anti-WH sentiment combined with the fallout Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #108

uh-oh. a voice of reason in a freak out thread. onenote Oct 2014 #129

The corporate media is manufacturing consent for their own profits, period Corruption Inc Oct 2014 #110

NO F*&%ing Kidding! bobGandolf Oct 2014 #111

Why else would they report all this bullshit if not madokie Oct 2014 #112

seriously, income inequality is out of control, and no one could possibly believe J_J_ Oct 2014 #123

yes Botany Oct 2014 #114

Even if Obama is unpopular, he has been forced to deal with the problems the GOP left behind J_J_ Oct 2014 #130

It is very clear to me Pharaoh Oct 2014 #115

This has been my thought since 2000! That's about when they started the whole DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #117

Except that voting attendance is generally a matter of public record... brooklynite Oct 2014 #119

Turnout for democrats in midterm elections historically never have been good. B Calm Oct 2014 #124

Dude, you're just recycling your old posts now... SidDithers Oct 2014 #126

I notice that the GOP is still the default party in the eyes of the MSM Hekate Oct 2014 #131

Makes me sick and cynical- yes that is exactly their point J_J_ Oct 2014 #133

Ever heard of Occam's Razor? Arkana Oct 2014 #134