can't get shit done because the 30% on the fringe refuse to compromise.... (Reply #54)

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Sun Oct 26, 2014, 05:36 PM

VanillaRhapsody (21,115 posts)

54. can't get shit done because the 30% on the fringe refuse to compromise....

hmmmm sounds familiar!

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Can someone please explain to me why the Republican Party still enjoys [View all]	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	OP
Because a fair number of Democratic "leaders"...	99Forever	Oct 2014	#1
I was on another thread here just a few minutes ago and said Republicans had	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#2
They mostly racist, bigoted and don't like minorities and they especially don't like those who try	kelliekat44	Nov 2014	#128
That's an interesting question.	MineralMan	Oct 2014	#3
Well, as you know, I really despise Republicans and have my entire adult voting life, going	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#6
I didn't know you despise Republicans. How would I	elias49	Oct 2014	#74
Well,	GummyBearz	Oct 2014	#77
Yeah, I hadn't considered the 'doppelganger' effect. Here's the thing though. The	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#78
I liken they way they talk to	Gloria	Nov 2014	#125
Good points. I try to shy away from comparisons to Nazi stuff, just because	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#136
Frank Luntz is the master at this	YoungDemCA	Nov 2014	#148
Fairly simple.. they started a strategy in the 60's by taking local school board elections	Peacetrain	Oct 2014	#4
That is a very interesting article (about, among other things, confirmation bias	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#9
Excellent point	Freddie	Oct 2014	#14
Exactly... it is a well used ploy..	Peacetrain	Oct 2014	#17
It depends on the location	tabbycat31	Oct 2014	#70
That's Happening	RobinA	Nov 2014	#133
It is so blasted confusing.. and they hide their true	Peacetrain	Nov 2014	#149
Good points, and fascinating article!	YoungDemCA	Nov 2014	#146
When I first read that in 2010 it was on DU	Peacetrain	Nov 2014	#150
I think I know the answer...	walkingman	Oct 2014	#5
Hey, stop insulting Neanderthals! :)	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#7
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"Childishly dismissing the issues white people face" - and what 'issues' would those	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#107
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With what attitude, pray tell?	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#109
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This message was self-deleted by its author	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#111
Well, you never did explain exactly what 'issues' white people face. I'm	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#112
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Sigh. I think we're done.	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#119
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What A Soecial Little Snowflake You Are, Fella....	The Magistrate	Oct 2014	#121
East Asians and Native Americans have more Neanderthal DNA than Whites	Just Read It	Oct 2014	#75
GOP (White Party) Tears	walkingman	Oct 2014	#79
Neanderthals Vote Democrat	Just Read It	Oct 2014	#81
Large swaths of the electorate can't even tell you who the vice president is.	OffWithTheirHeads	Oct 2014	#8
Interesting. Suggests that the media now serve only to confirm folks' pre-existing	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#10
Close. The media confirms folk's pre-existing bias if that bias is right wing. Leftist positions...	Scuba	Oct 2014	#105
This cannot be repeated often enough.	hifiguy	Nov 2014	#154
Because some new voters...	butterfly77	Oct 2014	#11
I don't think continued support for Republicans can be laid exclusively at the	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#13
Not exclusively but..	butterfly77	Oct 2014	#16
Yeah, as regards your point about 'new voters,' I think family traditions	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#18
In the case of newly naturalized voters..	butterfly77	Oct 2014	#21
Despite today's polarization, politics is quite nebulous when it comes to which side some will pick	Populist_Prole	Oct 2014	#12
That is a damned fine and thoughtful response. Do your ideas lend themselves to any	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#15
Well yes. Practical steps but seemingly maddeningly just out of reach	Populist_Prole	Oct 2014	#23
I like the way you think and approach issues, instead of simply throwing up your hands	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#28
The rock bottom support for Republicans is 27% or so..	Fumesucker	Oct 2014	#19
The last sentence of your excerpt is the keeper! The 'Crazification Factor'. Gawd, I	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#22
The Republicans run as the party of straight, white, economically secure Christians.	DemocraticWing	Oct 2014	#20
Excellent analysis. I would add though that 'straight, white, economically secure	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#24
A certain amount are nuts, but not all of them.	DemocraticWing	Oct 2014	#26
Voting is hardly just about logic. I don't understand why this is such a mystery to you	cali	Oct 2014	#25
Yeah, my wife constantly gives me shit for indulging my Spock-like tendencies to the	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#30
How often do you really see Dems pushing hope, empathy and love?	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2014	#34
Not often enough, I suppose. I think some of that massive support for President Obama in 2008 was	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#48
A lot of people are apolitical.	lpbk2713	Oct 2014	#27
The truth of what you write is really sad. - nt	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#31
It has taken several decades	rock	Oct 2014	#29
It's frankly terrifying, isn't it? - nt	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#32
Indeed, it's like having a large gathering of zombies	rock	Oct 2014	#36
Yep. Goes to show that well-tested propaganda works effortlessly on the masses.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2014	#156
Because half the population is of below average intelligence?	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2014	#33
I think you may have a point (or two). It's not for nothing that Melville's	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#35
+1	Populist_Prole	Oct 2014	#40
News media protects Republicans and reports their talking points uncritically	emulatorloo	Oct 2014	#37
It's maddening, isn't it? The contant false equivocation and tu quoque tropes	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#49
The polls are not a true representation of the American electorate.	Dont call me Shirley	Oct 2014	#38
because 30% of the population are bigots and vote Republican because they believe Republicans	VanillaRhapsody	Oct 2014	#39
And isn't that a sad commentary on our electorate (or at least 30% of it)? I think	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#45
can't get shit done because the 30% on the fringe refuse to compromise....	VanillaRhapsody	Oct 2014	#54
Yes, you are very correct, there are a lot of rock bottom people who vote	Thinkingabout	Oct 2014	#53
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves	Tierra_y_Libertad	Oct 2014	#41
That is a great quote! I wonder what Steinbeck would say were he alive today. He'd probably	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#46
Your post only makes sense if you think DU is representative of the American public.	former9thward	Oct 2014	#42
Sigh. If only it were so. I suppose I feel that Republicans represent the (economic) interests of	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#65
By use of operatives such as Limbaugh, Hannity and others.............	wandy	Oct 2014	#43
Because the Democratic Party has been demonized	customerserviceguy	Oct 2014	#44
Excellent survey and analysis. "Scared mushy-middlers" - that's a new demographic. Not	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#51
Most people in this country are pretty much in the base	customerserviceguy	Oct 2014	#61
As I could have expected, awesome analysis. I think it somewhat begs the question, though, which	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#63
Where do you live?	customerserviceguy	Oct 2014	#66
West side of Los Angeles. (Maxine Waters' district - Yay!) If I lived in a small rural town, I	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#69
There you have it	customerserviceguy	Oct 2014	#71
guns	scarystuffyo	Oct 2014	#47
"Clean up on aisle 47"	elias49	Oct 2014	#76
RW media bias.	DCBob	Oct 2014	#50
They own the media and have locked up the racist vote	nakocal	Oct 2014	#52
there are a lot of stupid, easily-led people	Skittles	Oct 2014	#55
MSM	maced666	Oct 2014	#56
Because 25% of the population are complete idiots	CanonRay	Oct 2014	#57
All other things being equal, Dems should equally appeal to half of that	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#68
TEEVEE GNEWZ. subliminal memes.	pansypoo53219	Oct 2014	#58
media ownership.	spanone	Oct 2014	#59
Logic is just a nice sounding word that confirms our prejudices.	AngryAmish	Oct 2014	#60
Well, logicians might disagree with your characterization of	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#62
You pick a side and you fight on that side	AngryAmish	Oct 2014	#64
Taxes	demwing	Oct 2014	#67
That shithead Romney never did release all or even most of his tax returns, did he? This	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#73
This message was self-deleted by its author	SidDithers	Oct 2014	#72
People don't want the government intruding	Harmony Blue	Oct 2014	#80
And yet, the U.S. government under Bush was wiretapping the phone conversations of U.S.	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#82
That's a programmed cliche to lure gullible voters.	CakeGrrl	Oct 2014	#90
The tragedy is that we know that there will be other entirely preventable	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#98
many people agree with republicans on many things, take forced Ebola Quarantine	JI7	Oct 2014	#83
In 1932, after more than three years	kiva	Oct 2014	#84
I guess it goes to show there's truly nothing new under the sun. That is one hell of a	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#91
You're welcome.	kiva	Oct 2014	#95
That's such an easy damn answer..	Cha	Oct 2014	#85
Exactly. The GOP now literally owns the media.	CakeGrrl	Oct 2014	#86
And, now the M$M have their little mediawhore Chucky Todd feeding the public Bull$hite on Sunday	Cha	Oct 2014	#89
A little historical perspective: I think the resentment at the so-called 'liberal media' dates back	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#97
They have the M$M on their side 24/7	Rex	Oct 2014	#87
You know, I've been thinking about this and I remember, during the aftermath of	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#93
The M$M made sure protesters of the Iraqi war were minimized. Same with OWS.	Rex	Oct 2014	#100
Many reasons	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#88
This is a mini-masterpiece. It really deserves to be a thread of its own and I hope	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#101
At your suggestion, I've done so	Prophet 451	Oct 2014	#103
Thanks. Looks like your new thread is receiving the response I expected. Just out	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#122
Eep, sorry. I missed this	Prophet 451	Nov 2014	#124
Ah, no worries. I had completely failed to take into account the 'tourism' component. The	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#138
Do not get upset over things like this, it is like asking why is the sky blue?	Black Bug	Oct 2014	#92
Wow. That's a great first post (and great advice). I've been an activist since about 1977-8, but	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#94
Ha I was born in 77	Black Bug	Oct 2014	#96
I believe if the truth was known	madokie	Oct 2014	#99
4 issues. Don't they just go with one? I mean 4. Good gawd that's too many for them to ponder.	lonestarnot	Oct 2014	#114
Yep.	treestar	Oct 2014	#118
Any one of the four is all it takes	madokie	Oct 2014	#123
I'm not a sociologist, so I don't really know.	ZombieHorde	Oct 2014	#102
Simple	DonCoquixote	Oct 2014	#104
Isn't that the sad truth? I would add they 'play' to people's ignorance and use	KingCharlemagne	Oct 2014	#115
I think it may have something to do with team inculcation. We have been inculcated with team	lonestarnot	Oct 2014	#113
Thanks for responding. Yeah, the atavistic urge runs deep, that's for sure. I've seen	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#140
They support their candidates	treestar	Oct 2014	#116
1- the party of Big Business, very much so, and 2- the "establishment party", moreso than Dems	steve2470	Nov 2014	#126
Much as I like, admire and even venerate Abe Lincoln, the Republican Party has	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#141
Because their base votes reflexively against Democrats	Scootaloo	Nov 2014	#127
This is so insightful that it almost deserves a thread of its own (hint, hint :). It is a very	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#143
In the NJ 7th	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2014	#129
Because America is a very conservative country.	Donald Ian Rankin	Nov 2014	#130
Not true. Way more voters vote democratic. Get your facts straight!	B Calm	Nov 2014	#131
"Marginally", not "way".	Donald Ian Rankin	Nov 2014	#132
Hey, thanks for responding. The words 'conservative' and its siblings seem	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#139
This Is My Question	RobinA	Nov 2014	#134
media - the infamous Lewis Powell memo in 1970	rurallib	Nov 2014	#135
I'm lazy so, if you get a chance, can you please expound a bit on	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#144
Sorry this took so long to reply	rurallib	Nov 2014	#168
Thanks for the detailed backgrounder. I knew Powell's name sounded familiar - big suprise, he was	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#169
This to me is also an example of	rurallib	Nov 2014	#170
Fear! n/t	Tom_Foolery	Nov 2014	#137
They successfully repackage weak, mean and stupid oligarchy...	Orsino	Nov 2014	#142
Hey, thanks for responding. Yeah, money certainly has an insidious effect	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#145
Public financing of elections, and a media fairness doctrine.	Orsino	Nov 2014	#147
because brainwashing works, especially when you put a ton of money into it.	unblock	Nov 2014	#151
Few could dispute the overall validity of your general observation. Are you by	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#153
well it's certainly true that human views can be manipulated;	unblock	Nov 2014	#158
I like the way you think and the cut of your jib. I find myself unable to laugh at their	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#160
Ignorance	upaloopa	Nov 2014	#152
I like your one-word answer about as much as I like any response on this thread, i guess. It's	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#155
I'd expand slightly on your answer, which is basically correct.	hifiguy	Nov 2014	#157
This article may help.	area51	Nov 2014	#159
Great article with lots of quotable quotes. My fav was the last one (by Chip Berlet, of	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#161
The human animal is gullible.	Notafraidtoo	Nov 2014	#162
Hey, stop insulting monkeys! :) Your post brought to mind this oldie-but-goodie:	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#163
The real battle is between "centrist Dems and progressive Dems (Socialists and other points left)."	kentuck	Nov 2014	#164
Thanks for responding. Your lengthy post brought Will Rogers famous quip	KingCharlemagne	Nov 2014	#165
I actually think that it might be advantageous...	kentuck	Nov 2014	#167
It's not a mystery.	True Blue Door	Nov 2014	#166
+1	YoungDemCA	Nov 2014	#171
kick	kentuck	Nov 2014	#172

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