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JHB

(37,128 posts)
39. Hell no!
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:27 PM
Apr 2012

First, a major impetus behind Prohibition was making a point of who was in charge: dry "real (Potestant) Americans" vs "wet" immigrants, Catholics and Jews. Teabaggers would have been right at home amongst the drys.

Second, you might as well blame the Prohibitionists for the problems you discuss, because they didn't permit a nuanced view of problem drinking. Even afterward, that "anyone complaining about booze is just another dry killjoy" attitude lasted for decades. It would have, FDR or not.

Did FDR Fuck Up By Ending Prohibition? [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 OP
AA? --- rather than triple A? xchrom Apr 2012 #1
D'oh! I need a second cup of coffee this morning! MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #3
Well he freed up bathtubs. Autumn Apr 2012 #2
Well. Since you ask, I think prohibition was ridiculous. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #4
I take it that you're from the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts? MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #5
Mmmm yes. I have lived there since 1996 or so. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #52
Similar to my background MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #58
Well you don't say. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #60
What I don't understand is madokie Apr 2012 #6
Judaism and Hinduism agree: different strokes for different folks MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #9
Perhaps madokie Apr 2012 #15
maybe there's too much THC and not enough CBD RainDog Apr 2012 #43
Good job! abelenkpe Apr 2012 #12
people have different body chemistries RainDog Apr 2012 #33
You could try it madokie Apr 2012 #38
I think a controlled setting is really important RainDog Apr 2012 #45
Lotsa BS in AA, but... dogknob Apr 2012 #41
FDR didn't end Prohibition. The state legislatures and Congress ended it. slackmaster Apr 2012 #7
FDR is generally regarded as the driving force MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #11
His opposition to Prohibition was unquestionably one of the reasons he got elected slackmaster Apr 2012 #13
The Democratic Party was split by wets and drys RainDog Apr 2012 #32
No kidding. I'd like to hear Al Smith clue some DUers in as to how "unified"... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2012 #47
Absolutely not abelenkpe Apr 2012 #8
Prohibition was the anomoly socialindependocrat Apr 2012 #10
No. Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 #14
Nope, in addition to the things abelenkpe mentioned, kiva Apr 2012 #16
So it's better to lock people up Aerows Apr 2012 #17
No. Prohibition simply was not an effective means of stopping alcohol abuse Zorra Apr 2012 #18
The US still makes alcohol into too much of a forbidden fruit even today 47of74 Apr 2012 #28
No, for whatever his part was in it treestar Apr 2012 #19
it cost him the election iirc.. frylock Apr 2012 #20
? WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #54
just follow my lead.. frylock Apr 2012 #56
It has been reported that alcohol at the time accounted for 24+% of GDP - when Prohibition was Hestia Apr 2012 #21
Excellent post. Gregorian Apr 2012 #22
Do you understand how a Constitutional Amendment is passed? Motown_Johnny Apr 2012 #23
While it is true that the President had no official Constitutional role in eliminating the 18th customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #25
Remember when Presidents led on issues MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #26
Yeah... super majorities are great BklnDem75 Apr 2012 #55
So, basically you're asserting that is was a coincidence that Congress did what FDR wanted? Edweird Apr 2012 #31
I'm saying that when you get a 2/3 majority vote in each house of Congress Motown_Johnny Apr 2012 #53
What you had was FDR vigorously pushing a truly progressive agenda and LEADING Congress. Edweird Apr 2012 #59
I think he did the right thing. customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #24
Bring back Prohibition! SOS Apr 2012 #27
Clearly Obama thinks so.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #29
From the stories my father used to tell us the prohibition was not working just like the War on jwirr Apr 2012 #30
Obama should support decriminalized cannabis at the federal level RainDog Apr 2012 #34
Had no choice in the matter. Rex Apr 2012 #35
*headdesk* X_Digger Apr 2012 #36
Take the time to watch Ken Burn's series on the issue ... BOHICA12 Apr 2012 #37
Kicking for the the Burns recommendation. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2012 #48
Wow. That IS gripping. Thanks for the quote. I'm going to read that. I missed that program. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #61
It's fascinating in that the effort to pass, and then repeal, spanned 100+ years... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2012 #64
That was a terrific series. Brigid Apr 2012 #65
Hell no! JHB Apr 2012 #39
The Anti-Saloon League WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2012 #51
They really didn't give prohibition a good try FarCenter Apr 2012 #40
The alternative to prohibition is regulation felix_numinous Apr 2012 #42
FDR? What WTF did HE have to do with the 21st Amendment? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #44
Duplicate question MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #46
Prohibition was a total failure. Just llike drug prohibition is a failure now. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #49
No. SteveG Apr 2012 #50
"Prohibition was the worst mistake this nation ever made." Make7 Apr 2012 #62
I am reading a book about prohibition MadrasT Apr 2012 #57
No, I don't particularly like being told what I can and can't do to my body. Mr.Turnip Apr 2012 #63
You think Prohibition actually worked? What? ButterflyBlood Apr 2012 #66
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