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Islamophoia is not a liberal value [View all] Prophet 451 Oct 2014 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #1
*bitter cynical chuckle* Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #2
I largely agree with you- not about the ignore list. I don't do ignore lists cali Oct 2014 #3
No, you seem able to have a constructive dialogue Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #5
well, I've always referred to that concept as "confirmation bias" cali Oct 2014 #22
I'm aware of confirmation bias Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #29
As I said, I think it's far more complex that simply "the law stops them" cali Oct 2014 #58
I think we're just going to have to disagree on the law part Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #67
That's a well-reasoned post. Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #78
Thank you, sir n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #92
Ma'am. :) Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #97
Sorry. Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #99
Such a joke GummyBearz Oct 2014 #91
I listed modern Christian terrorists in my OP Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #101
So? GummyBearz Oct 2014 #119
"Christian terrorists seem to be a little nicer than islamic state terrorists" Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #122
I think you're missing how both fundamentalisms are intertwined. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #6
How could I be missing it when cali Oct 2014 #19
Where have we seen an increase in Islamic fundamentalism? CJCRANE Oct 2014 #27
Really ? Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #59
really? Link it. cali Oct 2014 #61
On brief look .... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #64
Tell us did you watch Face the Nation on Sunday? azurnoir Oct 2014 #103
that isn't remotely like anything I've ever said, dear. cali Oct 2014 #137
it's the same logic as "we're not against Black people, just their massive criminal element" MisterP Oct 2014 #4
Pretty much n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #7
"I don't hate gay people, I hate homosexuality." Another fun one from this mindset Scootaloo Oct 2014 #8
And we’re even getting a lot of that in this thread. “I’m not saying [certain group] is bad, I’m Chathamization Oct 2014 #112
No, it isn't. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #114
Do you think there is a difference between ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #154
Problem is they actually follow their holy book snooper2 Oct 2014 #9
I listed modern Christian terrorists in my OP Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #12
percentages matter snooper2 Oct 2014 #16
Only when you're trying to justify a prejudice Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #18
So would you, then. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #28
this is such a tired and simplistic line. cali Oct 2014 #25
I would call equating a heavily armed ruthless group that has actually Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #34
not really, people that really follow their holy books would be assholes snooper2 Oct 2014 #37
Equal opportunity disdain is fine Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #43
I know, cut and paste adds some comedic value :) snooper2 Oct 2014 #49
You say "they" like you mean all. Maybe you mean some follow their holy book. Percentages are import rhett o rick Oct 2014 #33
See post 37 for clarification snooper2 Oct 2014 #39
Post 37 provides zip. You said that the "Problem is they actually follow their holy book" rhett o rick Oct 2014 #53
The phelps actually follow their holy book snooper2 Oct 2014 #57
Your ignore list contains much more than people...it includes entire concepts. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #10
In the West, muslims are a MINORITY, and liberals traditionally protect closeupready Oct 2014 #11
Nnnnnno. Don't agree with you there, I'm afraid. sibelian Oct 2014 #21
No, it's not mainly because "prejudice is illogical". Liberals have traditionally relied on cali Oct 2014 #30
That moral basis RELIES on the fact that prejudice is illogical. sibelian Oct 2014 #56
Know your history. The idea of civil rights is itself a liberal idea. closeupready Oct 2014 #41
Certainly there is always propensity for the mainstream to dominate sibelian Oct 2014 #62
That'd be cool if liberals controlled the govment. We are currently ignoring major portions of the rhett o rick Oct 2014 #38
As a liberal, one should do what one can. Change starts with YOU. closeupready Oct 2014 #45
I like your avatar but I'll never look at meatballs the same. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #69
Then think of them as Rocky Mountain Oysters! closeupready Oct 2014 #79
You're not helping. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #130
I don't think the point is that they are different. sibelian Oct 2014 #13
Not to some Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #14
Are you allowed to link links? sibelian Oct 2014 #70
I'm honestly not sure Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #75
Give or take a hundred massacred women and children Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #15
Oh, never mind all that. sibelian Oct 2014 #24
Blowing folks to bits is so much more civilized. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #106
Ooooga booga Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #132
Bad guys trying to bomb bad guys and missing. sibelian Oct 2014 #156
Adding "phobia" to the end of the word Islam does not make it immune from analysis or criticism. Throd Oct 2014 #17
Homophobes say exactly the same n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #20
Nice try. Throd Oct 2014 #23
Ah, you're on the "Islam is different because it just is" train Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #26
No I'm not. Throd Oct 2014 #32
Probably because he/she accidentally watched 3 seconds of the 700 Club Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #48
Islam *is* different from homosexuality muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #150
Islam is a set of beliefs. Race and sexual orientation are a matter of nature. PeaceNikki Oct 2014 #151
I reserve the right to cali Oct 2014 #36
Like this poster did... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #74
I understand that Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #120
yeah, but when I criticize aspects of a given religion, I do not feel compelled cali Oct 2014 #135
There, we disagree Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #141
That sounds tedious. Throd Oct 2014 #145
Religion is a choice, sexual orientation not. nt alp227 Oct 2014 #63
. sibelian Oct 2014 #73
Two things Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #123
Religion is a choice Marrah_G Oct 2014 #104
Fundy Christians don't think so Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #121
The Problem Hari Seldon Oct 2014 #31
Greatest quote ever, thank you. get the red out Oct 2014 #46
I couldn't agree more that getting off fossil fuels would solve a ton of our problems. Marr Oct 2014 #51
Well said. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #68
That's a bit simplistic muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #152
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #35
We don't demean Christians on the basis of being Christian Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #40
What a guy. Happy to "take a shot" at deniers of rights. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #44
I guess you weren't on DU earlier in the year. Lobo27 Oct 2014 #89
If I was around, I missed it Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #95
Neither is defending oppressive authoritarians. Marr Oct 2014 #42
I wish a few psychologists would study why it's so hard for the Left to say what you said. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #47
Definitely. I think I understand where they're coming from, but still. Marr Oct 2014 #66
It always befuddles me how the Left, which prides itself on nuanced thought Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #71
George Bush get the red out Oct 2014 #84
There was radical Islam before Bush. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #86
Most definitely! get the red out Oct 2014 #87
I can see that. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #88
I'm definitely one of his ignorees leftynyc Oct 2014 #76
Welcome to the club. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #81
I'll wear it as a badge of honor leftynyc Oct 2014 #83
I think what ends up happening is this. Lobo27 Oct 2014 #90
The easier access to power is an accident of history Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #50
Yes, our entire government and our election process is an accident of history. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #55
I don't disagree with you-- but here we are. Marr Oct 2014 #60
What to do? Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #72
Certainly. Marr Oct 2014 #138
Yes, forgot about that Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #140
I think they are all equally disgusting Skittles Oct 2014 #52
Equal opportunity disdain is fair n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #54
K&R liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #65
Man is the only animal to have found the One True God....several of them. Mark Twain Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #77
K&R. YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #80
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #82
Glad you would be in favor of disenfranchising most of America's population... YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #94
Well, you know....Prop 8 ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #117
Exactly The Green Manalishi Oct 2014 #127
Two things Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #96
I am glad you have something that works for you, be it meds or faith. The Green Manalishi Oct 2014 #125
One could say the same of all gun owners Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #129
that is a different argument, and a good point. The Green Manalishi Oct 2014 #136
" insane, vile, hateful and hurtful paradigm" Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #139
Atheism isn't taken seriously because people with invisible sky friends need cognitive dissonance The Green Manalishi Oct 2014 #142
Glad to know I have company n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #146
Nah, just take away the tax exempt status. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #107
Yes, I'd go for that Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #109
The word fundamentalism does not sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #85
Hmm, yes. That's a good distinction Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #98
Pardon me, but I went to Quaker schools and Quaker meeting when I was younger Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #155
If I'm wrong, I welcome correction Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #157
Not any Quakers that I've ever met, and I've met LOTS. Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #161
How quickly things like Sabra and Shatila, the Bosnia Genocide, the LRA, the IRA, etc. get forgotten Chathamization Oct 2014 #93
Eloquently put Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #113
Most Americans never even HEARD the word "Muslim" prior to 9/11... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #100
"Otherising" Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #116
Religion has done that from the beginning.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #144
Not all religions Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #158
No kidding. Presbyterian was good at helping the poor and Quaker is still anti-war. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #164
Let's cut the crap. MicaelS Oct 2014 #102
so what conclusion should we be drawing from your post? azurnoir Oct 2014 #105
That I think the ME / Islamic World is one really fucked up place. MicaelS Oct 2014 #111
You say "cut the crap" but your post is full of it Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #108
Equality for women and gays is a liberal value OKNancy Oct 2014 #110
Something of a generalisation Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #115
I think it's problematic saying that Western culture is better than African culture or Asian culture Chathamization Oct 2014 #149
Islam, Judaism and Christianity ... All peas in the same pod Trajan Oct 2014 #118
~No, equal disdain is fine Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #126
Islamaphobia is a Christian Dominionist trapping. Watch your step. The Dominionists are Nazis. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #124
We have 2000 years of Christian history to back up the fact that Christians can be just as violent. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #128
That's something I agree with entirely Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #131
People say many things, but it is only their actions others can use to define them. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #133
That's not what I said Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #134
No, it is what I said. I speak for myself. No one is tilting at you. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #143
I missed Feral Child Oct 2014 #147
No, equal disdain is fair Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #159
Your point is accurate. Feral Child Oct 2014 #167
I am firmly against any religion LostOne4Ever Oct 2014 #148
Define "persecute" Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #160
I would define it as LostOne4Ever Oct 2014 #168
What Ben Affleck missed in the Islamophobia debate PeaceNikki Oct 2014 #153
This is so interesting you should post it separately. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #165
I view Muslims in the same way I view Christians. Neoma Oct 2014 #162
That's fair Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #163
The prevelance of repulsively right-wing opinions in Islam is currently unique. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2014 #166
Any religion like Islam or similar is NOT compatible with liberalism Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #169
Authoritarianism is ALWAYS bad, whether it is religious or otherwise. alarimer Oct 2014 #170
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