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former9thward

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4. Would you be willing to go back to the government structure

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:05 PM

Oct 2014

that existed under FDR or Eisenhower? Federal spending in 1938, for example, was 8.4 billion (139 billion in 2014 dollars). Federal spending in 2014 was 3.8 trillion.

Germany and the Scandinavian countries have been prosperous (both capitalist countries) because we have paid for their defense. If they had paid for their defense over the years they would not be in the same situation.

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Libertarians are SO confused! [View all] markpkessinger Oct 2014 OP

Did he intend on going there to wreck the place as Libertarians do? Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #1

That's because no prosperous developed country is based on a libertarian model. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #2

I once posed this question to a group of self-identified 'Libertarians' on Facebook . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #3

Like the only true "free market" was Pinochet's dictatorship in Chile. arcane1 Oct 2014 #8

I suspect the Somalia answer ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #18

Would you be willing to go back to the government structure former9thward Oct 2014 #4

So all we have to do is spend less on defense daredtowork Oct 2014 #5

Beat me to it! arcane1 Oct 2014 #10

I know I said it. former9thward Oct 2014 #12

perhaps we could shift jobs Pharaoh Oct 2014 #25

that's my theory. barbtries Oct 2014 #36

infrastructure onethatcares Oct 2014 #38

Forgive me but I am missing your point. I am sure it's me but what are you recommending? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #6

I am not recommending the "social democratic" former9thward Oct 2014 #11

Seems to me.... paleotn Oct 2014 #19

The European nations were "smarter" than us? former9thward Oct 2014 #33

First I think you are mis-presenting what the OP is saying and Secondly, it's much rhett o rick Oct 2014 #30

What do I believe in? former9thward Oct 2014 #34

In post #4 you asked some questions that seemed to be insinuating something. I apparently am not rhett o rick Oct 2014 #39

Why don't you help out? former9thward Oct 2014 #40

You frame your questions to push a point of view. No one want's to answer such questions. If you rhett o rick Oct 2014 #42

I have no problem with FDR or Eisenhower for that matter. former9thward Oct 2014 #44

Neither of the Roosevelts were perfect but certainly better than today's leaders. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #45

Agree with your post 100%. former9thward Oct 2014 #46

United States? Switzerland? Hong Kong? Taiwan? Cayenne Oct 2014 #27

" Free markets do require the law to keep them free and open. " Are you saying that Libertarians rhett o rick Oct 2014 #43

"The government that governs least, governs best". Ben Franklin Cayenne Oct 2014 #47

I agree. Regulations are needed. There really is no such thing as a "Free Market". nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #49

If he's like most libertarians the real draw is that it's whiter than a paper plate in a snow storm. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #7

Yes, Ron Paul is a big time racist. Missing the elephant in the room. wolfie001 Oct 2014 #17

Libertarian principles don't even make sense to me. It could be me. Seems to me that there rhett o rick Oct 2014 #9

It's like someone who is 10 and doesn't realize how much their parents actually provide n/t arcane1 Oct 2014 #14

I was a big Ayn Rand fan in high school. When I got into the real world, it was like a slap in the rhett o rick Oct 2014 #29

They think "Libertarian" means "Liberty" which means "small government" which means Reagan was God. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #13

They get neo-liberalism and liberalism confused. Rex Oct 2014 #16

That is until their boss tells them.... paleotn Oct 2014 #21

Been saying it for years Rex Oct 2014 #15

By and large, yup quakerboy Oct 2014 #20

The mixing up of civil rights aka Civil Libertarians and Political Libertarians abounds. Rex Oct 2014 #23

i work with a man barbtries Oct 2014 #37

Sure But Demonizing Them Is Dumb billhicks76 Oct 2014 #22

Somalia is the Libertarian paradise. nt valerief Oct 2014 #24

that's one adjective - I would use others! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2014 #26

Maybe he's a lefty libertarian. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #28

They are MFrohike Oct 2014 #31

'cos if he wasn't confused, MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #32

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #35

I had a wing nut friend say New Zealand was perfect treestar Oct 2014 #41

Libertarians are terminally confused. hifiguy Oct 2014 #48