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liberal_at_heart

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10. It is never a waste. Learning should be a life long process. We should encourage anyone
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:18 AM
Oct 2014

who wants to learn.

I'd be happy to revert to a German university model if we did what the Germans do Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #1
I'd be happy to for any reason. Education is investment in our future. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #3
I studied in Germany and I think, this weeding-out makes sense. DetlefK Oct 2014 #7
What's wrong with offering remedial classes for those who learn differently or at a different pace liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #8
That's not the German model. Take it up with them. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #9
It is never a waste. Learning should be a life long process. We should encourage anyone liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #10
Which is partly why we have the problems we do. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #14
Then maybe the university should expand its studies to include classes that teach in a different way liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #15
University in Europe has been described to me as like the military Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #16
Well I feel for the mothers over there and over here for that matter whose disabled children liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #18
It's not so bad.... GermanWatcher Oct 2014 #60
But you're here promoting the German model. So it makes sense to take it up with you. pnwmom Oct 2014 #29
How do you know that? You don't. Nor do I. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #30
He wasn't mildly affected then. He wouldn't have been able to pass their college-level reading tests pnwmom Oct 2014 #32
I'm just relating what the German system is like. Sue them, not me. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #33
You were the one who said you'd be happy to have no tuition IF they followed the German pnwmom Oct 2014 #36
Oh, I meant that completely. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #40
then don't go to school 1dogleft Oct 2014 #88
Someone here is advocating for the German approach. I think it's less than optimal. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #89
No. OldEurope Oct 2014 #65
Good. Because they'd be missing out on some strong engineering talent. pnwmom Oct 2014 #66
thank you n/t 1dogleft Oct 2014 #87
It seems like we could go to a system of free community colleges TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #23
Maybe they shouldn't be in a four year college dbackjon Oct 2014 #34
Unfortunately, a "natural" engineer has to wade through two years of general education pnwmom Oct 2014 #38
That's not true. The first two years of an engineering curriculum are actually pretty tough badtoworse Oct 2014 #44
You still have to take general education requirements that can lower your GPA. pnwmom Oct 2014 #46
I actually found the humanities courses to be pretty easy compared to the math and science. badtoworse Oct 2014 #48
My relative had dyslexia that was still a problem when he entered college. pnwmom Oct 2014 #49
Glad it worked out for him, but I think his situation represents an exception. badtoworse Oct 2014 #51
His reading skills improved throughout college. That's why I think the German testing system pnwmom Oct 2014 #52
That's the German way, structured and rigid. badtoworse Oct 2014 #57
But the best engineers aren't necessarily the best readers. Some of them actually have dyslexia. pnwmom Oct 2014 #59
I don't know enough about dyslexia to have an informed opinion. badtoworse Oct 2014 #61
not true, there are lots of bachelor degrees in robotics, AC/DC theory, telecom, snooper2 Oct 2014 #50
You still have to wade through non-technical classes at any community college. nt pnwmom Oct 2014 #53
If I remember correctly I had one science course, one math course and some elective snooper2 Oct 2014 #54
I have a community college student living with me right now, pnwmom Oct 2014 #55
that sucks, I guess I got lucky snooper2 Oct 2014 #58
How many could pass the PE test? badtoworse Oct 2014 #62
The PE is a tough test. U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #68
Yes, dotymed Oct 2014 #81
Rather than saying "tough shit", you are too poor Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #19
Or how about we get universal free tuition by de-funding all these worthless wars? Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #21
And worthless degrees. Right there with you. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #25
How do you decide which degrees are "worthless?" immoderate Oct 2014 #27
Ones that don't generate jobs. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #28
There are jobs that didn't exist when I went to college. immoderate Oct 2014 #37
I'm not sure any of that is true. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #41
You can look it up. immoderate Oct 2014 #45
Technology is moving so fast that after a few years a lot of "job generating degrees" might be Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #43
People who work hard and people who only shuffle large amounts of money around are destroying earth. hunter Oct 2014 #82
Why does much of that require college? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #83
The most effective dreamers can do the math and they know the science and history. hunter Oct 2014 #84
You mean you agree with me? Great. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #85
No. I think further education ought to be available to anyone at any time, both trades and academic. hunter Oct 2014 #97
Isn't that what every college/univ.'s admission office does? merrily Oct 2014 #47
As long as the hiring requirements at most companies change as well whopis01 Oct 2014 #71
That is great for the young people in Germany! logosoco Oct 2014 #2
From a website for german students: DetlefK Oct 2014 #4
Works for me;) grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #5
My cousin's wife is an MD CANDO Oct 2014 #6
It doesn't mean that everyone can go to university, though frazzled Oct 2014 #11
doesn't sound like a system I want my autistic son in that's for sure. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #13
You might be interested in this frazzled Oct 2014 #17
that sounds like a lovely movie. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #20
And where is the money coming from? treestar Oct 2014 #76
The american system reflects our values. It's what we voted for taught_me_patience Oct 2014 #12
But who will think of the poor Halliburton and Exxon and GE executives?! Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #22
Are we sure that we won WWII? Yavin4 Oct 2014 #24
They lost in the short term hifiguy Oct 2014 #31
You make a most compelling point, Yavin4. calimary Oct 2014 #35
They lost treestar Oct 2014 #75
That's how smart people handle higher education. In the U.S. ladjf Oct 2014 #26
Other countries provide a hybrid that may sound counter-intuitive to us RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #39
This whole premise is ridiculous. K-12 is supported by taxes. Why isn't higher education? liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #64
Don't give them any ideas. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #70
Higher Ed guyfromla Oct 2014 #42
Saudi Arabia's universities are also tuition-free DrDan Oct 2014 #56
And we spend our money defending them..... Sad. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #67
as well as other countries in the ME. DrDan Oct 2014 #72
Unless you are a woman. JTFrog Oct 2014 #77
free university education is available to women in Saudi DrDan Oct 2014 #80
"probably not all fields of study are available, but still..." JTFrog Oct 2014 #99
You do realize they attend tuition-free DrDan Oct 2014 #100
Free tuition doesn't impress me much in this example. JTFrog Oct 2014 #101
How many male-only colleges do we still have? Quite a few DrDan Oct 2014 #102
Argentina too. n/t FSogol Oct 2014 #78
k&r Electric Monk Oct 2014 #63
Filed under things that would never happen in backassward America. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #69
Germany goes forwards T_i_B Oct 2014 #73
I was born into German immigrant family TRoN33 Oct 2014 #74
Another A+ for requiring corporate boards to be 50% workers. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #79
Investing in their collective future. toby jo Oct 2014 #86
Not sure they are investing. Helen Borg Oct 2014 #95
That's great! Hubert Flottz Oct 2014 #90
“Tuition fees are socially unjust..." workinclasszero Oct 2014 #91
Would everyone be comfortable telling people they have no right to a college education? pediatricmedic Oct 2014 #92
We spen billions on prisons, our criminal justice system and police. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #93
Will the German Govt Helen Borg Oct 2014 #94
Well done Germany .. Lenomsky Oct 2014 #96
If we can afford war, we can afford education. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #98
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