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stevenleser

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28. Yep. I was against going into Syria for the purposes of deposing Assad. I was against Iraq in 2003

Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:04 PM

Sep 2014

but ISIL/ISIS is a real threat, and lots of other folks who were against all those same wars agree with me now.

Only folks who cannot seem to understand that every situation isnt the same as one before it can't seem to figure this one out.

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Jimmy Carter Speaks on Islamic State at Forum [View all] FrodosPet Sep 2014 OP

When Jimmy Carter wants you to bomb ISIS...you bomb ISIS. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #1

Jimmy Carter, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders... FrodosPet Sep 2014 #2

Exactly, Frodos.. they know a hellava lot more than those on the internet.. and they're not stuck Cha Sep 2014 #27

Yep. I was against going into Syria for the purposes of deposing Assad. I was against Iraq in 2003 stevenleser Sep 2014 #28

Their intentions are honorable. They are tired of war. FrodosPet Sep 2014 #30

I'm not convinced their intentions are honorable. It's not that hard. stevenleser Sep 2014 #34

Who are these people whose intentions are not honorable? Name a few please. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #36

then what do you think are the dishonorable intentions held by those of us cali Sep 2014 #51

You tell me. Why is what I described so hard to get? nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #54

I've already described what I see as the pitfalls and likely outcome cali Sep 2014 #56

So many problems with your analysis its hard to know where to begin to address them. stevenleser Sep 2014 #61

wow. so much wrong with your response, it's just sad. cali Sep 2014 #62

Once again, you are wrong stevenleser Sep 2014 #67

My problem with this is.... recent history. cali Sep 2014 #50

What kind of information do you imagine they have? cali Sep 2014 #49

Neither are infallible. morningfog Sep 2014 #6

Right.. and neither are you, mf. I think you are stuck back in 2001-2003 but many of us realize Cha Sep 2014 #26

Funny how suddenly this threat came about. I have been following events in Iraq sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #38

It has nothing to do with being stuck. morningfog Sep 2014 #41

Wow, that is persuasive. treestar Sep 2014 #14

And then what? pokerfan Sep 2014 #20

Get the Iraqis to keep them out of Iraq, is what. That's the only reason TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #22

Okay, but when you say 'Get the Iraqis to keep them out of Iraq...' that's not the issue. freshwest Sep 2014 #33

Well, Iraq is a primary concern and obligation for us, so that's why we should start TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #37

lol. and the odds of that are slim. We are widely distrusted and despised by both Sh'ite cali Sep 2014 #52

I agree it's all difficult problems to solve. But just throwing up one's hands TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #53

Perhaps, just perhaps, there is something between bombing (for years and years, and cali Sep 2014 #57

Bombing isn't the whole answer. But terrorists do need to be killed. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #59

It's not about "objecting to killing" cali Sep 2014 #60

You either kill them, or just watch them and hope they don't really mean what they say TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #65

Right. And they have already occupied large swaths of two countries, so watching them and hoping stevenleser Sep 2014 #68

oh baloney. cali Sep 2014 #48

I hate to say it, but probably better than if we had not FrodosPet Sep 2014 #64

I have followed strawberries Sep 2014 #66

This man knows the ME and I trust him. As much as I hate war I also understand that sometimes jwirr Sep 2014 #3

The man who is at the head of ISIL said that ALL muslims should bow to him back in June. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #4

Good. Glad Jimmy spoke up on this. DCBob Sep 2014 #5

Doesn't change my opposition. morningfog Sep 2014 #7

Progressives with influence need to quit getting information from military and intelligence sources FrodosPet Sep 2014 #11

Warren and Sanders voted against funding the only measure morningfog Sep 2014 #12

I applaud them for not over-reacting FrodosPet Sep 2014 #17

But not threats to the US. morningfog Sep 2014 #18

Khorasan, the Nusra Front... FrodosPet Sep 2014 #25

" stick to the blogosphere and message boards "? Really? alp227 Sep 2014 #29

I'm disappointed, too Aerows Sep 2014 #15

Too many have Aerows Sep 2014 #8

Perhaps former President Carter has some defense stocks? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #9

Too many have the envies for war Aerows Sep 2014 #10

I'm sorry - I thought you were sticking to the subject of Pres. Carter's statements FrodosPet Sep 2014 #13

Allow me to retort. Aerows Sep 2014 #16

There is a difference here FrodosPet Sep 2014 #21

Yeah Aerows Sep 2014 #23

I think it's safe to say... OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #44

ISIL or ISIS is a problem and whether we created Frankenstein or not, they can't be ignored, Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #19

You can ignore Aerows Sep 2014 #24

That's true, Aerows but I believe it's really there. n/t Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #39

Thank you, Frodos.. as has been said, Jimmy Carter, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren Cha Sep 2014 #31

Carter, Warren and Sanders thrown under the bus in 3... 2... 1... freshwest Sep 2014 #35

Not at all. I don't expect to agree with anyone all the time. cali Sep 2014 #58

Agreed. What do they know that we do not? Nt riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #43

Indeed. What have they seen that we have not? freshwest Sep 2014 #63

They're probably more dangerous CJCRANE Sep 2014 #46

When the information you receive indicated action is needed one must act with integrity and Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #32

KICK! Cha Sep 2014 #40

Interesting. When Jimmy Carter advocates action, I'm always willing to listen riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #42

You know a terrorist group has become really, really hated Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #45

I think it's champing oberliner Sep 2014 #55

I would say "dangerously deadly". They want the horrendous plundering and killing to stop. Cha Sep 2014 #69

K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #47

GOTV...we Dems Need to Defeat ISIS/IS/ISL....GOTV KoKo Sep 2014 #70