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Obama Disappoints Gay Groups By Refusing To Ban Discrimination Against Gay Federal Contractors [View all] Purveyor Apr 2012 OP

So does this means he's "devolving" on the issue? vi5 Apr 2012 #1

He disappoints more than gays on this. He disappoints any straight with half a brain. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #2

If it wasn't disappointing, Purveyor wouldn't be posting it. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #3

Go into the GLBT group and say that. Occulus Apr 2012 #8

Do you care to expand on THAT? eom Purveyor Apr 2012 #67

no... it's informative fascisthunter Apr 2012 #80

The words 'at this time' does NOT mean never. Tx4obama Apr 2012 #4

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Exactly dbackjon Apr 2012 #10

SO WHEN THE FUCK WILL WE GET TREATED AS EQUAL? dbackjon Apr 2012 #9

perhaps tx4obama shares his views on this. Occulus Apr 2012 #16

at a convenient time to someone's political career. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #33

So 20 years from now, when it will be not risky at all... dbackjon Apr 2012 #36

or 30 or 40 or whenever is convenient for someone important La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #39

I'll stick with this. FedUp_Queer Apr 2012 #52

Let me guess... dbackjon Apr 2012 #57

*Crickets* Rex Apr 2012 #55

Outrage aside, Barney Frank deserves to get EDNA passed.... msanthrope Apr 2012 #13

The EO would not effect ENDA. TriMera Apr 2012 #26

Well, it would. It would give certain 'moderate' Democrats an out that I don't think they should msanthrope Apr 2012 #34

How so? In fact it would show moderate democrats that the president expects them La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #40

You do that with a phone call from the Oval Office telling them to stand up and be counted. Barney msanthrope Apr 2012 #48

ENDA has been on the table since 1994. TriMera Apr 2012 #42

The problem is that if an EO is under court challenge, it's probable that Judiciary won't take the msanthrope Apr 2012 #46

Press Sec Carney's quotes on the link below Tx4obama Apr 2012 #51

No it means, 'not now' as in ' maybe some other time'. Rex Apr 2012 #19

Rep. Frank has pending legislation on this matter. Should the President not allow him an ENDA msanthrope Apr 2012 #23

Why not join him in that victory? Can they not share it together? Rex Apr 2012 #27

It would be a win-win. See my post down-thread.n/t TriMera Apr 2012 #30

As I explained elsewhere on the thread, having two branches of msanthrope Apr 2012 #50

Why would they be tripping over each other? I fail to see it. Rex Apr 2012 #54

Did you read my other posts??? I explain the mechanism quite clearly. nt. msanthrope Apr 2012 #62

ENDA and this EO differs in scope. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #29

Thank you. n/t TriMera Apr 2012 #32

Actually, ENDA covers government workers and contractors, too. msanthrope Apr 2012 #41

Yes, i know. The EO is much limited in scope and could have been used to set La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #44

So you want an EO to pre-empt an Article 1, Section 8 matter??? msanthrope Apr 2012 #58

Let me ask you something. How many times has an EO been overturned by the Courts? TriMera Apr 2012 #69

Um. This tells me you never read why. Read the Youngstown case, and when you understand msanthrope Apr 2012 #70

Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #5

Yep. Any day now. Iggo Apr 2012 #6

Obama - doesn't give a fuck about equality dbackjon Apr 2012 #11

I disagree with you, respectfully. I think EDNA deserves a chance at passage, and if it doesn't msanthrope Apr 2012 #15

Why should we wait? dbackjon Apr 2012 #17

Why would you assume it doesn't affect me? Issuing an EO gives Congress a pass. It also allows msanthrope Apr 2012 #20

Not if he challenges Congress to extend it to ALL AMERICANS dbackjon Apr 2012 #22

I think he's shown tremendous leadership. You may disagree, I will vote for him in November. msanthrope Apr 2012 #25

Ah, the old strawman rears his head dbackjon Apr 2012 #28

what a supremely lame argument. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #31

If all else fails...n/t TriMera Apr 2012 #35

i think its bigoted to cast aspersions on a minority group for standing up for their rights La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #37

Well, I don't disagree with the right, I just disagree with how to go about obtaining it.... msanthrope Apr 2012 #43

I especially love the part where those "loyal democrats" TriMera Apr 2012 #49

It's not the 'political process.' It's Civics. Tell me how an Article 1, Section 8 matter is best msanthrope Apr 2012 #53

Well, let's see. FedUp_Queer Apr 2012 #45

So who are you voting for???? nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #59

Mr. M. Mouse. (That is, if they count my vote with the optical scan machines.) FedUp_Queer Apr 2012 #66

I wouldn't consider an EO until Barney Frank's legislation is off the table. (HR 1397) msanthrope Apr 2012 #12

Thank you for posting the best comment on this thread. Tx4obama Apr 2012 #14

Outrage aside, I'm a girl who loves a separation of powers debate. I know our President is msanthrope Apr 2012 #18

ENDA. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #21

Dyslexia kicking in...I had to look a few times before I saw it....nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #24

+ bigtree Apr 2012 #38

On what planet? dsc Apr 2012 #64

So if Frank can't pass ENDA in his last term, you want EO action???? msanthrope Apr 2012 #65

We don't control the floor dsc Apr 2012 #68

So--You think a President who does not have the floor should issue EOs??? msanthrope Apr 2012 #71

No it doesn't dsc Apr 2012 #75

I don't get this one really Broderick Apr 2012 #47

As I've explained above, an EO could actually interfere with pending legslation....ENDA. msanthrope Apr 2012 #60

Ok. I hope you are right Broderick Apr 2012 #61

Good legislation is better than good press. I hope Barney Frank can do this last msanthrope Apr 2012 #63

As a gay man, I am disappointed by this. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #56

Pathetic gratuitous Apr 2012 #72

HERE IS WHAT OBAMA HIMSELF SAID TWO YEARS AGO ruggerson Apr 2012 #73

"my ability to make sure that the federal government is an employer that treats gays and lesbians... FreeState Apr 2012 #74

Lovely. BlueIris Apr 2012 #76

So, Barney Frank is supposed to get ENDA passed Bohunk68 Apr 2012 #77

I'm disappointed in the President as well The Philosopher Apr 2012 #78

Awesome reply! dbackjon Apr 2012 #79

Quit thinking of the EO as a miracle decree treestar Apr 2012 #81

one does not preclude the other ruggerson Apr 2012 #82

It would have shown The Philosopher Apr 2012 #83