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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
179. Don't bother
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:49 PM
Sep 2014

Some people around here honestly believe that the United States "lost its innocence" all on November 22, 1963, and has from then on been dominated by a sinister cabal of conspiratorial forces known as "the BFEE" or "the MIC" or "the Corporatist Fascist Warmongers."

Not only is this incredibly over-simplified, anti-intellectual,and anti-historical, and not only is it based on the "Camelot" fairy tale of the Kennedys (which, as all fairy tales are, was more myth and unmet idealizations than reality), but it is also represents the projection of filtered, edited memories of the Post-WWII era. The generational bias is really transparent here.

du rec. xchrom Sep 2014 #1
Daughter of PBS journalist Robert MacNeil and mother of a child with autism (can't shut her up/down) proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #69
I would self-delete.... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #82
do you know if this is accurate? Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #90
That is not accurate. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #91
from the link Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #89
You've posted that excerpt twice, do you know if it's accurate? beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #98
The article links to this CDC webpage, please read it. It's factual, nothing objectionable there. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #112
Spare me. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #113
A fun site-search is that poster's name and "Wakefield"... SidDithers Sep 2014 #117
You can't be serious. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #120
That's some crazy shit, eh?... SidDithers Sep 2014 #121
So Wakefield is the victim of the story? beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #125
Wait awhile and see what happens. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #130
Your continued support of a criminal and his agenda on DU is sickening. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #131
Not up-to-date? No wonder, blame in-the-weeds material plus media's failure to inform the public. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #172
Oh for the love of... NuclearDem Sep 2014 #144
...children. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #181
no, I asked somebody if it were accurate. Heavens to mergatroid on the hyperbole. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #133
Vaccines don't cause autism. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #135
Quote from RFK reviewer: RobertEarl Sep 2014 #161
Fracking is also dangerous to the health of millions. Why won't any of you that rhett o rick Sep 2014 #185
The "RFK Jr can do no wrong" phanbois in 3-2-1... Archae Sep 2014 #2
And they'll claim RFK Jr. is a "great Democrat"!!... SidDithers Sep 2014 #5
What kind of Democrat does that make you, SidDithers of DU? Octafish Sep 2014 #10
Sid's someone who realizes that having full on nuttery The Green Manalishi Sep 2014 #17
Who's the asshole? Octafish Sep 2014 #25
The asshole AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #29
Right. Octafish Sep 2014 #31
That would be completely different assholes. Thor_MN Sep 2014 #34
Wow, you really oversimplified the hell out of that. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #43
You're exposed to far, far more mercury.... paleotn Sep 2014 #51
Chlorine is a seriously poisonous gas. Archae Sep 2014 #73
!!!!!! zappaman Sep 2014 #74
FATALITY NuclearDem Sep 2014 #88
Beware the dihydrogen monoxide, though. awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #124
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #123
Wonder if it was Library Girl... SidDithers Sep 2014 #126
Damn AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #138
Who else? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2014 #165
Depends on the question. I would put people who still press the question of whether vaccines cause LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #152
You know who else "Just asks questions"? cemaphonic Sep 2014 #153
Climate change deniers, Holocaust deniers, Birthers, people who believe ACORN stole the elections... YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #180
Don't bother YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #179
Because Sid, You Have Violated One Of The Unwritten Rules Wolf Frankula Sep 2014 #93
That site has a great review of "Dr" Oz.... xocet Sep 2014 #14
I'd never seen that... SidDithers Sep 2014 #15
No problem. I hadn't seen it either until I followed Archae's link and looked around at some of... xocet Sep 2014 #22
Who ignores the effects of BPA and other cumulative toxins in food and other products? Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #44
Thanks. elleng Sep 2014 #66
Agenda 21? Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #85
Your post is a great way to defeat argument by authority. However, the letter's content is not... xocet Sep 2014 #136
not here to debate your point of view, or defend Dr. Oz, who has always given me the creeps Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #142
Thank you for your kind elaboration. I appreciate your reply. n/t xocet Sep 2014 #150
And right on schedule... NuclearDem Sep 2014 #24
Please keep this asshat away from liberal issues MohRokTah Sep 2014 #3
K&R mcar Sep 2014 #4
unrec. 2banon Sep 2014 #6
This is why the static Oz got from Congress was well deserved. What makes this even more of a white still_one Sep 2014 #7
Absolutely. SoapBox Sep 2014 #12
RFK is not a Democrat onecaliberal Sep 2014 #8
actually the anti-vaxers crosses party lines still_one Sep 2014 #50
Granted... paleotn Sep 2014 #54
I prefer the word ignorant still_one Sep 2014 #62
Willfully ignorant... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #86
That kind of stupidity is bringing back onecaliberal Sep 2014 #107
Your hyperactive autocorrect changed "eradicated" to "irradiated" in tblue37 Sep 2014 #159
If you deny science you are not a democrat. onecaliberal Sep 2014 #106
i wish you were right, but you are wrong. posts on DU have reflected such views still_one Sep 2014 #146
You're entitled to your opinion onecaliberal Sep 2014 #148
You're certainly not a progressive if you outright deny science YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #183
Agree!!! onecaliberal Sep 2014 #184
Please review post 63. Of course, some would rather go blind than see but I hope you're smarter. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #186
I agree that not all Democrats are the same. There are good Democrats and rhett o rick Sep 2014 #92
Mhm. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #95
Yes, I agree to a point. onecaliberal Sep 2014 #108
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2014 #9
Let's see how you respond, Oz, to a few cases of Polio... SoapBox Sep 2014 #11
If There Were A Vaccine For Ebola otohara Sep 2014 #229
his dad would be ashamed of him for this. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #13
I agree... SidDithers Sep 2014 #16
His grandfather would be VERY proud 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #167
based on the science of his time, I'm sure wyldwolf Sep 2014 #168
Scammers, hucksters and delusional "true believers" etherealtruth Sep 2014 #18
I probably know 100 physicians personally, and every single one supports vaccination. ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #19
I'm sure thankful that vaccines exist, that's for sure. Because... PatrickforO Sep 2014 #20
Actually, I routinely told my math students chervilant Sep 2014 #35
The following graphic makes clear how current official recommended schedules are varied by country. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #70
Are those mortality rates for all causes, or just infectious diseases? Jim Lane Sep 2014 #84
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #115
Gosh, Croatia is better than us. That makes me feel better! PatrickforO Sep 2014 #116
Great, but which schedule? It's changed a lot, you know. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #128
How about a respectful dialogue about vaccines? ... DesertDiamond Sep 2014 #21
There is a legitimate debate to be had. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #23
You are not up-to-date. In addition to the sources below, look around for audio of #CDCwhistleblower proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #63
Ugh, NTSA. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #81
NTSA? Let me guess from the source/context: "No Telling Stupid Anything?" Well, I disagree. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #102
Actually I think it's 'Not This Shit Again' beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #104
1) #hearthiswell on youtube 2) that Baez song, Diamonds and Rust, 'Then give me another word for it' proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #105
Sharyl Attkisson works for the Heritage Foundation. alp227 Sep 2014 #110
When are you going to stop killing infants? Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #114
Kennedy calls world-leading immunologists "biostitutes", like prostitutes... SidDithers Sep 2014 #27
There is no legitimate debate. Anti-vaxxers are a bigger public safety geek tragedy Sep 2014 #33
It will not happen on this website, I think there are too many insecure people here Tumbulu Sep 2014 #36
No, this is generally a pro-science site. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #55
No, the poster before wanted to talk specifics, not pro or anti vax Tumbulu Sep 2014 #119
Person was/is an obvious anti-vaxxer. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #139
Call it "insecurity" that many here refuse to give a platform .... etherealtruth Sep 2014 #101
See? The same old closed minded reactions Tumbulu Sep 2014 #118
That's what the climate change and Holocaust deniers say when people geek tragedy Sep 2014 #140
No, the issues worth discussing exist Tumbulu Sep 2014 #175
You are joking, right? etherealtruth Sep 2014 #163
No I am not, and this is just the typical thing- lumping not approving of gmo's in Tumbulu Sep 2014 #177
Just FYI: chervilant Sep 2014 #37
So what idiot alerted on this request for a dialog? Tumbulu Sep 2014 #134
I did. Because anti-vax nonsense kills people who believe it geek tragedy Sep 2014 #141
well there, you proved my point Tumbulu Sep 2014 #147
There is nothing to debate geek tragedy Sep 2014 #162
So you admit abusing the alert system to push your point of view. Apparently you don't rhett o rick Sep 2014 #149
I wish that members would refrain from bullshit alerts. blackspade Sep 2014 #143
"but those who believe in vaccines are so terrified" "No arguments are ever won by name-calling." Thor_MN Sep 2014 #38
Respectfully, you are wrong: "There actually are plenty of studies showing that vaccines can be FSogol Sep 2014 #40
You may be correct about many or most anti-vaxxers, but not all are con men or grifters. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #49
Compassion doesn't make junk science geek tragedy Sep 2014 #53
I agree but it's never an effective strategy to attack people in order to change their beliefs. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #57
There is no legitimate anti - vaccination geek tragedy Sep 2014 #58
I don't know if there is or isn't. But there are legitimate stories of damaged children; and it's no Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #61
. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #67
How many is plenty? Iggo Sep 2014 #47
please post links to those "plenty of studies" cali Sep 2014 #48
Ironically, its the anti-vaccination movement that refuses to have a real dialogue YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #182
You're more concerned with disproven claims of vaccine danger than REAL diseases that kill Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #200
So disappointing. silverweb Sep 2014 #26
+1...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author silverweb Sep 2014 #30
He is such a sharp guy, it's amazing how DUMB he is on this issue. Quixote1818 Sep 2014 #32
Dr. Oz - more poison that Oprah has unleashed on the world. Initech Sep 2014 #39
Re: "dr" Oz: giving out suspect medical advice should not be allowed on tv NightWatcher Sep 2014 #41
The letter from the FDA to his producers... SidDithers Sep 2014 #42
sid, thanks for being you. mopinko Sep 2014 #45
Thanks, mopinko... SidDithers Sep 2014 #46
Well said. (nt) paleotn Sep 2014 #56
Delete the 'asshat' references elleng Sep 2014 #52
Well, RFK Jr. IS an asshat... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2014 #60
You are asking a lot. It's so much more fun to get out tar and feathers than actually rhett o rick Sep 2014 #122
Considering every single one of your posts in this thread NuclearDem Sep 2014 #145
Look, y'all VA_Jill Sep 2014 #59
Won't happen, DU has niche groups that fight over certain topics...this being one. Rex Sep 2014 #64
Oz testified before Congress that he is a cheerleader geek tragedy Sep 2014 #68
Regardless of an improbable autism connection, thimerosal does not belong in children's vaccines. pnwmom Sep 2014 #65
did your PHD tell you much mercury you inhale living downwind of a coal-fired power plant? hobbit709 Sep 2014 #83
One wrong exposure doesn't excuse more -- especially one that's injected directly into pnwmom Sep 2014 #87
Did he say anything about a nice tuna filet? Separation Sep 2014 #137
Yes. We eat other fish. We skip the tuna. pnwmom Sep 2014 #156
Good idea to remove it... LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #154
We don't eat any tuna around here, which is the fish most likely to have high levels. pnwmom Sep 2014 #155
What an asshat, I guess nobody told him thimerosol was out in 2001 Warpy Sep 2014 #71
Yup. And here's a screencap from the Oz show... SidDithers Sep 2014 #72
I guess no one told you that pregnant women now take flu vaccines with thimerosol, pnwmom Sep 2014 #157
Yes, and he failed to mention barbaraj Sep 2014 #169
I think you put your finger on it. ucrdem Sep 2014 #171
This is good information, barbaraj Sep 2014 #178
Kick and rec! zappaman Sep 2014 #75
Disgusting that this is still debated on DU. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #76
bmus! Good to see you... SidDithers Sep 2014 #77
Hi Sid! beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #78
Not so little anymore. Both in high school... SidDithers Sep 2014 #79
Excellent OP as always, Sid. RFK Jr. is a stain on the progressive cause. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #80
I just got my T-Dapp for free with Obamacare. Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #94
I am glad you are so health conscience. How about fracking? Are you as passionate about rhett o rick Sep 2014 #96
You should start a thread about fracking... SidDithers Sep 2014 #97
Don't you agree that fracking is a very serious health concern? Or do you agree with Pres Obama rhett o rick Sep 2014 #103
Yes, fracking and anti vaxxers are the same thing. zappaman Sep 2014 #109
Because if there's one thing we know NuclearDem Sep 2014 #100
Upset someone benefited from Obamacare, Rick? zappaman Sep 2014 #111
That's a shame that he's an antivax person. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #99
Anti-vaxxers should be loudly ridiculed... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #127
Love those grandkiddies to the moon and back... SidDithers Sep 2014 #129
I am almost barbaraj Sep 2014 #132
Thank you barbaraj, and welcome to DU RobertEarl Sep 2014 #160
It's a rough topic barbaraj Sep 2014 #166
Thank you, barbaraj Sep 2014 #170
What happened to that guy???? MADem Sep 2014 #151
I know!... SidDithers Sep 2014 #193
Sid you know this is an insulting title. It's also inaccurate. ucrdem Sep 2014 #158
Some feel better if they find someone to tar and feather and heaven help those that try rhett o rick Sep 2014 #173
Remember Science Diet? ucrdem Sep 2014 #174
It was melamine-tainted gluten from China, unbeknownst to MANY pet food brands eShirl Sep 2014 #189
Right. Scores of pet food makers got it wrong, pets died. It happens. ucrdem Sep 2014 #248
Can't believe he got sucked into all that - TBF Sep 2014 #164
to place too much credence in RFK is to believe in dynasties bobduca Sep 2014 #176
DU rec. joshcryer Sep 2014 #187
Why does Dr. Oz still have a medical license? eShirl Sep 2014 #188
Who knows. It's a mystery... SidDithers Sep 2014 #190
just so there is no confusion, i completely support the use of asshat in this context La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #191
Thanks, Lioness!... SidDithers Sep 2014 #192
Kick! zappaman Sep 2014 #194
Thanks for the kick... SidDithers Sep 2014 #195
kick again msanthrope Sep 2014 #196
Thimerosal was removed from all childhood vaccines in 2001 bhikkhu Sep 2014 #197
Familiar w the following? If not, please investigate further including Youtube #hearthiswell (~340?) proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #198
Then removal of thimerosal from children's vaccines 13 years ago should have affected autism rates bhikkhu Sep 2014 #199
It's crushing how misleading a single sentence can be, not to mention paragraphs. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #201
I should say, I was briefly on the anti-thimerosal bandwagon bhikkhu Sep 2014 #204
I cannot imagine disregarding the informed& unequivocal views of CDC scientist Dr William W Thompson proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #205
I cannot imagine ignoring all the science leading away from the thimerosal/autism theory bhikkhu Sep 2014 #206
CORRECTION: 'Dr. William Thompson, a senior CDC researcher' 'senior scientist Dr. William Thompson' proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #207
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #214
Ageofautism... SidDithers Sep 2014 #203
Extra butter on mine, please. KamaAina Sep 2014 #202
I wonder if he'd recommend "no" to an ebola vaccine to those in Liberia? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #208
Good question...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #250
Does smearing a good Democrat really have anything to do with autism? Octafish Sep 2014 #209
What do the assassinations of RFK and JFK have to do... SidDithers Sep 2014 #210
It has to do with character assassination. Octafish Sep 2014 #211
... SidDithers Sep 2014 #212
You better believe it! n/t zappaman Sep 2014 #213
Tag Team is so second banana, Dude. Octafish Sep 2014 #216
Love ya, buddy! zappaman Sep 2014 #217
Hope for change. Octafish Sep 2014 #218
I agree with you that RFK Jr is quite the asshat zappaman Sep 2014 #219
What's it called when you put words in somebody else's mouth? Octafish Sep 2014 #220
Kick. n/t zappaman Sep 2014 #221
Good. Octafish Sep 2014 #223
I join you again in the kick! zappaman Sep 2014 #224
Years of your life. Octafish Sep 2014 #225
Coincidence? I think not! zappaman Sep 2014 #230
Why do you devote years of your life minding what I write? Octafish Sep 2014 #231
Why do you devote years of your life minding what I write? zappaman Sep 2014 #232
Do you suffer from echolalia? Octafish Sep 2014 #235
Really? zappaman Sep 2014 #236
Gosh. I guess that makes the rest of your posts really something. Octafish Sep 2014 #237
I love that meme! zappaman Sep 2014 #238
Odd you should mention the BFEE. Octafish Sep 2014 #239
Yeah. zappaman Sep 2014 #240
There aren't enough smilies to cover up how un-democratic character assassination is. Octafish Sep 2014 #215
Sure is. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #241
Show where. Octafish Sep 2014 #242
If I posted every single time you tried suggesting a DUer was a paid operative NuclearDem Sep 2014 #243
It's one of his signature moves zappaman Sep 2014 #244
Years of your life. Octafish Sep 2014 #245
Found a hair in my soup the other day. zappaman Sep 2014 #246
But it's what your hero engages in... SidDithers Sep 2014 #247
More asshattery here... zappaman Sep 2014 #222
Glad I'm catching up on OUTLANDER instead!!!!!! MADem Sep 2014 #226
RFK, Jr. has been a champion for the environment and other liberal causes. 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #227
When it comes to vaccines he's an asshat. tammywammy Sep 2014 #228
Funny how the posters who cry "hero worship" anytime anything positive is said about Obama zappaman Sep 2014 #233
Honest question: have you read the first page of his 2005 article? ucrdem Sep 2014 #249
+1 pnwmom Sep 2014 #234
I still admire RFK, Jr., but on this one issue, we part ways. n/t Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #251
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