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Cleita

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Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:38 PM Apr 2012

John Edwards: Sigh! How could so many of us been so wrong. [View all]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-edwards-trial-as-a-lawyer-john-edwards-had-faith-in-jurors-20120412,0,4166719.story?track=rss



John Edwards trial: As trial lawyer, Edwards had 'faith' in jurors

By David Zucchino
April 12, 2012, 8:34 a.m.

DURHAM, N.C. -- Jury selection begins Thursday in the federal election corruption trial of former U.S. Sen. John Edwards, who is accused of conspiring to violate campaign laws, accepting illegal contributions and making false statements.

Edwards, 58, a 2004 Democratic vice presidential candidate, made millions in courtrooms as a personal injury lawyer in North Carolina. Now he faces a 30-year prison sentence and up to $1.5 million in fines if convicted on all six federal counts against him.

The government has accused Edwards of using nearly $1 million in donations from two wealthy benefactors to hide an extramarital affair during his unsuccessful 2008 campaign for president. Prosecutors say Edwards solicited the money to cover up his affair with Rielle Hunter, a campaign videographer who was pregnant with Edwards’ child.

Edwards’ wife, Elizabeth Edwards, who died in December 2010, was fighting breast cancer at the time. She had served as her husband’s chief policy advisor. The couple separated in 2010 after Edwards admitted the affair and said he was the father of Hunter’s daughter, Frances Quinn, born in February 2008. More at link.


I was always a Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich supporter, but when they fell by the wayside, my support went to John Edwards. I remember the days when Elizabeth Edwards posted at DU. She had DU a moniker but in the heat of the campaign, Elizabeth continued to post but under her real name until the scandal happened. Although she posted once or twice after that, her cancer and the humiliation of it made her stop, I believe.

But John, John, I really believed in you and it turns out that the real you has nothing to do with the public you that is as phony as your hair. And now on top of being a tomcat you are also alleged to be a thief. It seems it was Elizabeth we should have been supporting, not you. It's too bad the universe took her back into its bosom because she would have been one helluva first woman President. If cancer had not claimed, her I would have looked for her to move forward after the divorce and throw her hat in the ring. Such a sad ending all around to this situation that once had given us all hope for a real liberal in the White House.

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Because you so badly wanted what he promised -- a better, more fair America. gateley Apr 2012 #1
well we know what his promises mean now. Whisp Apr 2012 #7
This is what is so maddening because he was of the 99% coming Cleita Apr 2012 #8
I wonder if deep down, long ago, that's what his priorities actually were. gateley Apr 2012 #21
I don't think it's anything to wonder any more. Cleita Apr 2012 #23
Yeah, now we know, but at the time he was the only candidate addressing vitally important issues gateley Apr 2012 #14
Yeah, I always loved what he said, but I never really liked him n/t deutsey Apr 2012 #12
Yeah, the what he said. I don't know if that would have translated into action Cleita Apr 2012 #25
I wasn't wrong. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #2
Hey, Fawke! elleng Apr 2012 #9
Didn't we always call him "Breck" or something like that? Fawke Em Apr 2012 #10
Appropriate, but only those of a certain age will get the reference. gateley Apr 2012 #15
Yes we did! elleng Apr 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2012 #19
Yes, I don't remember Democrats ever calling him that. I did not support him, but he was sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #43
You joined DU in 2011 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #22
Rush called him the Breck Girl dionysus Apr 2012 #68
Like you I supported DK until he was gone and then went with Edwards... What a disappointment, teddy51 Apr 2012 #3
That truly was an odd sort of blessing.n/t Cleita Apr 2012 #5
The MSM pretty much ignored him CJCRANE Apr 2012 #4
Proves that you CAN fool some of the people some of the time. elleng Apr 2012 #6
Hi, ellen. I too loved Wes clark. But I go suckered into Edwards with his Two Americas gig. CTyankee Apr 2012 #53
Well, yank, we all make mistakes! elleng Apr 2012 #54
Well, there's a little more to it than that. I saw Clark stumble in his remarks on CTyankee Apr 2012 #75
No speculation necessary on my part, yank. I followed Wes closely, elleng Apr 2012 #79
It was my impression from the interview that I saw that he wasn't that up to speed on CTyankee Apr 2012 #84
I don't know that it was his 'military bent.' elleng Apr 2012 #85
I think some liberals just vaguely mistrust career military officers. Maybe more then than now. CTyankee Apr 2012 #86
"He wasn't sufficiently connected with the Dem powers that be to succeed" RFKHumphreyObama Apr 2012 #88
He did NOT have the backing of the Clintons and the DLC. elleng Apr 2012 #89
Sadly, we never really know our candidates. MineralMan Apr 2012 #11
I liked Edwards PatSeg Apr 2012 #13
I know! It was his "come clean" interview and he was still lying! Wasn't it Froward gateley Apr 2012 #18
Oh yes PatSeg Apr 2012 #24
"Mah daddy was uh mill worker" PassingFair Apr 2012 #76
I didn't trust him either PatSeg Apr 2012 #78
except for the part about being a 2-faced little skank, Edwards was awesome librechik Apr 2012 #17
At their core, ALL Politicians are liars. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #20
I wouldn't say all SATIRical Apr 2012 #31
Statements such as this show the extent of the damage hedgehog Apr 2012 #34
Quite the contrary Speck Tater Apr 2012 #39
The punishment does not fit the crime. 30 years for a crime with no violence and a far reach to find stevenleser Apr 2012 #26
Well, he'll probably end up in a Club Fed prison like the Watergate perps. Cleita Apr 2012 #27
I said he was phony.. butterfly77 Apr 2012 #28
It's just a huge tragedy. So hard for his children. I wonder how many others will sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #29
It does seem unfair that Bush, Cheney and many other Republican crooks Cleita Apr 2012 #30
The irony is that for better or worse, i think if John Edwards hedgehog Apr 2012 #32
i wonder how many on this site defended his homophobia when he was vp-nominee. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #33
His homophobia? I don't recall that. Cleita Apr 2012 #36
I always saw him as a man who married a woman who ended up looking far older than he did, and SoCalDem Apr 2012 #35
I think she was older than him, wasn't she? Cleita Apr 2012 #37
She was a little older, but not much SoCalDem Apr 2012 #38
I am extremely grateful to Edwards for having had the courage to talk about the Two Americas. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #40
I think you are very right. Also, in the business world, Democrats Cleita Apr 2012 #42
The last time "The Poor" were mentioned in Campaign 2008, bvar22 Apr 2012 #46
You have identified a very clear pattern Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #61
Thanks, bvar22 JDPriestly Apr 2012 #87
in politics, the slick look just like the sick spanone Apr 2012 #41
Sadly it is not enough to back someone for his/her positions on the issues. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2012 #44
Being a 1%er ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #45
I tellpeople DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #47
I did too. Cleita Apr 2012 #50
it's because of him TheFarseer Apr 2012 #48
I still do, if it's a tried and true politician like Barbara Boxer, Cleita Apr 2012 #49
I was right about him all along..... FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #51
His Message Was, And Still Is, Correct. He Is Just An Asshole. Yavin4 Apr 2012 #52
I hope somebody else comes along with that message. Cleita Apr 2012 #55
I was supporter of his going back a long ways Raine Apr 2012 #56
Don't beat yourself up. He really spoke to us about the issues that were important to Cleita Apr 2012 #57
I always had a feeling this man was phony. LisaL Apr 2012 #58
I was in the love with the message...not the messenger Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #59
I think he's a sociopath. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #60
There definitely was a personality flaw there. Cleita Apr 2012 #62
I wasn't wrong the whole time... ellisonz Apr 2012 #63
Heh! The primaries. Those were the days. Cleita Apr 2012 #65
Come reminisce: ellisonz Apr 2012 #66
Eh, It happens. Zax2me Apr 2012 #64
smoove johnny, we hardly knew ye... dionysus Apr 2012 #67
I still wonder catchnrelease Apr 2012 #69
If you're talking about his personal life DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #70
Is it? That makes me feel better about him. It still doesn't exonerate his personal behavior Cleita Apr 2012 #72
Well I tried ... and tried ... and tried ... slipslidingaway Apr 2012 #71
I have the utmost respect for Elizabeth. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #73
I don't think we were entirely wrong. BlueIris Apr 2012 #74
He had a great message on poverty, still resonates today. I don't regret my vote at the time. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #77
He did. I hope someone picks it up for 2016. Cleita Apr 2012 #82
Man, did I get a lot of shit for pointing out what a phony fucker he was. cali Apr 2012 #80
Now you are entitled to gloat. Cleita Apr 2012 #81
The lesson here isn't just that politicians lie Spike89 Apr 2012 #83
I voted for him, bought the message DiverDave Apr 2012 #90
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