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119. You forgot the cynicism & disappointment tag.

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Here we go again... Michael Moore speaks the truth and Liberals turn on one of their own. [View all] Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 OP

Agreed. His signature acheivement was passing a republican health care scam. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #1

They are blood thirsty grahamgreen Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #3

that "scam" got my teeth badly needed work, new glasses and xrays for my broken toe this spring. KittyWampus Sep 2014 #26

Better than nothing, for sure. Not as good as Medicare for all. Did you get the grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #32

The scam that saved my fucking right eye. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #186

gosh that scam saved me last winter when I got pneumonia. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #27

Did you get Medicare? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #39

I have whatever is given to the indigent. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #45

Yes,the expanded Medicare is one of the best parts of the plan. The alternative to Obamacare is grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #51

I was mostly Canadian for about ten years and lived with their healthcare. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #54

The way it will be... One day:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #56

:) All-in in favor of that, and it seems inevitable. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #58

The ACA was a milestone because it stated the government had a responsibility to it's citizens.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #66

I thought they hated it because Obama. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #70

They still claim it's a "government takeover".... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #73

I personally believe that the bad guys' days are numbered. Granted it may be a big number Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #118

America promoting Capitalism is a Cold War remnant about to die. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #123

LOL BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #176

Easy. Travel outside of the United States. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #183

Medicaid, not Medicare Revanchist Sep 2014 #61

care for the eldery, aid for the poor... dang! i know that! grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #68

I am the poor.... Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #71

Lovely post. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #83

Medicaid was expanded, medicare wasn't Progressive dog Sep 2014 #124

Medicaid, that poster has Medicaid. Medicare only for contributors 65 and older or disabled after Todays_Illusion Sep 2014 #149

that is medicaid sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #154

+1 area51 Sep 2014 #72

This is a right wing meme perpetuated by the right. joshcryer Sep 2014 #75

Not a scam treestar Sep 2014 #160

Obama will be rembered for the ACA. At the least. tridim Sep 2014 #2

Really. If ACA is remembered 100 years from now that that means the U.S. never had a leader come up Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #4

He regulated the health insurance industry. It's an amazing accomplishment. tridim Sep 2014 #15

Glass-Steagall. Repealed by a Democratic President. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #20

It's a BFD and some just can't handle it. Cha Sep 2014 #22

He rescued the insurance industry and latched it onto government. Marr Sep 2014 #29

The ACA preserves it, temporarily. joshcryer Sep 2014 #77

IMO, no, the ACA is like Social Security, but for health care. joshcryer Sep 2014 #76

And yet Roosevelt is remembered for the Social Security Act of 1935. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #100

The Ableist attacks on our first disabled President are sickening Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #113

I heard a Right Wing Talker on the radio claim the ACA was the Republican answer to "Obamacare". Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #16

That's what the President said awhile ago.. When it's successful they won't be calling it Cha Sep 2014 #19

They'll be calling it RepublicCare rpannier Sep 2014 #60

The left also makes that statement. joshcryer Sep 2014 #78

I get the feeling Dems are testing the waters to prove the Republicans are crazy. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #107

No. The rethugs had NO plan, still don't. Now they want to babylonsister Sep 2014 #80

Yup. They claim it's their plan from the Heritage Foundation.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #104

Haha, the ODS is rampant.. spewing off their keyboards.. I love it! President Obama will Cha Sep 2014 #17

The Right on the radio claims "Obamacare" is free healthcare for blacks paid for by whites. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #36

That toxic garbage Will harm you ears, Spitfire~ Cha Sep 2014 #40

It's good to know what we're up against. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #64

The ACA is the biggest thing since Medicare or Civil Rights. joshcryer Sep 2014 #79

and bin laden treestar Sep 2014 #162

He has entrenched and expanded the corporate, MIC, and surveillance/security state agenda woo me with science Sep 2014 #5

Yes, Obama is Hitler emulatorloo Sep 2014 #102

+1000 Phlem Sep 2014 #145

So you believe Michael Moore's racist rant was truth???? MohRokTah Sep 2014 #6

It wasn't racist.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #10

Desperation is calling Michael Moore a racist because you don't like his message. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #28

Ah, somebody that doesn't understand what racist means. Dawgs Sep 2014 #94

Ah, another white guy who claims Bobbie Jo Sep 2014 #114

Or maybe just another white guy who is justified in challenging Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #134

Racist??? Not hardly. Maybe you should try another angle of attack, that one won't fly. nt NorthCarolina Sep 2014 #143

Yes, the entirety of Moore's career has shown he is a racist. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #151

Nothing racist about it. 840high Sep 2014 #153

MM hasn't been 'one of our own' for quite some time. n/t X_Digger Sep 2014 #7

Right. The President's never ending problems with "Optics"... Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #8

"it was not a constructive criticism at all." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #12

Americans remember Washington for being the nation's first president brentspeak Sep 2014 #9

Look how DC remembered Ford as a "healer" while the nation dumped him for pardoning Nixon. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #13

And JFK awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #161

I didn't join that thread. Moore spoke the truth but it seems a little unfair. Warpy Sep 2014 #11

I like the way you mentioned "conservatives from both parties".... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #14

"Obama was stymied by conservatives from both parties in Congress, " rhett o rick Sep 2014 #31

Very good list. Add Arne Duncan. He's FAR RIGHT in his approach to what he's done to education. nt stillwaiting Sep 2014 #96

Duncan has arguably done far more damage to public education QC Sep 2014 #98

Nah. He'll be remembered for... JaneyVee Sep 2014 #18

Thanks JaneyVee.. and DADT & DOMA.. Cleaning up bush-cheney's fucking mess.. Cha Sep 2014 #21

Yup. His legacy is going to be historic. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #24

Right, and it drives the haters CRAZY!! Cha Sep 2014 #25

Which is why when people here are reminded that Moore supported Nader in 2000 . . . Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #41

Aw.. isn't that special.. nader the ratfucker of 2000. TweedleDum and TweedleDee. Cha Sep 2014 #50

Yes, thank you JaneyVee RFKHumphreyObama Sep 2014 #67

I just hope and pray that he is not remembered as a War President. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #23

The Obama Administration has been just as bloodthirsty as any other. Maedhros Sep 2014 #115

I predict Obama will be remembered for his dignity and his intelligence. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #30

Wow. ucrdem Sep 2014 #34

Very Good, Voice for Peace~ Mahalo~ Cha Sep 2014 #43

Robin Williams said Obama winning got America officially out of rehab. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #46

He's still cracking me up, from orbit. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #55

Amazing answer but you left ONE thing out Nightjock Sep 2014 #53

I envision them being remembered as small, dark, unhealthy things, with dollar signs in their eyes Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #57

What's great is to see an entire generation grow up watching Republicans become the party of evil. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #69

It's true. In 20 years there will only be about 5 republicans left, and they'll be in hiding. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #170

+1! DCBob Sep 2014 #81

And his amazing abs and chest Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #92

and his skill at basketball, and that he was human, and heartfelt. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #120

I'd be better than Bush Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #122

Fail treestar Sep 2014 #166

absolutely drray23 Sep 2014 #101

thank you! Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #121

You forgot the sarcasm tag. [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2014 #116

You forgot the cynicism & disappointment tag. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #119

Those are some good points too treestar Sep 2014 #165

Obama has been real conciliatory toward the GOP, to a fault. From Day ONE. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #33

Yeah, because that worked so well for Clinton. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #44

Well, it probably did work out well for Clinton Mnpaul Sep 2014 #159

it would have been different had he not coveted their approval Skittles Sep 2014 #65

Most of the people flipping out are centrists, at best. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #35

Bingo. QC Sep 2014 #84

"Centrists"?? Puglover Sep 2014 #97

Far, far too kind. QC Sep 2014 #106

Yep Puglover Sep 2014 #129

Noam Chomsky is a water carrier for the MIC. QC Sep 2014 #131

Voldemort? Puglover Sep 2014 #132

The One Who Must Never Be Criticized. n/t QC Sep 2014 #135

Damn! Et tu, Noam and Howard? markpkessinger Sep 2014 #146

One cannot be too careful these days! QC Sep 2014 #150

Jeeze ...they must have smoked some bad crack. L0oniX Sep 2014 #174

That person was until recently an LBN host. n/t QC Sep 2014 #182

Yep-- you said it. /nt Marr Sep 2014 #140

The country is full of centrists treestar Sep 2014 #167

Liberals are not throwing Moore under the bus obxhead Sep 2014 #37

oh boy another anti-Obama thread how he hasn't done anything. Gosh, DU is becoming such a crock still_one Sep 2014 #38

At least you didn't accuse me of trolling for people who can't,.....oh. Sorry. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #42

Oh but they get to call us "centrists" and better yet "center right" .. because .. wait for it.. Cha Sep 2014 #48

No. It's Democratic Underground, not Obama Underground. Jakes Progress Sep 2014 #49

You forgot somethin' . . . President Obama IS the leader of the Democratic party. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #52

Last time I checked . . . markpkessinger Sep 2014 #147

You don't know something….a party and a principle are not the same thing. Jakes Progress Sep 2014 #180

The fringe left has officially gone off the deep end... SidDithers Sep 2014 #117

You mean they can only tell you what they hate? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #144

The mindless center has officially swallowed the kool-aid. Jakes Progress Sep 2014 #181

Not liberals. Idolitrists and acolytes. Jakes Progress Sep 2014 #47

I was surprised when I saw folks on DU calling him a racist. C Moon Sep 2014 #59

Agree - ACA is an incredible accomplishment TBF Sep 2014 #88

It's true... ificandream Sep 2014 #62

If Bush had killed Bin Laden... montex Sep 2014 #63

Yes, the Democrats remind me of these guys deutsey Sep 2014 #91

Obama hasn't received credit from the apolitical left. joshcryer Sep 2014 #74

LOL. You are one of DU's silliest. Keep making us laugh! nt Romulox Sep 2014 #86

That's like saying every thread about saving puppies kills a puppy. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #108

liberals didn't turn on anyone Doctor_J Sep 2014 #82

+1 QC Sep 2014 #87

+1, yep. Same old shit from the same old crew. Marr Sep 2014 #141

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2014 #175

LOL at the people who think mandatory, for-profit insurance will be remembered fondly in 100 years. Romulox Sep 2014 #85

Republican idiots I know IRL tell me the same thing. tridim Sep 2014 #89

He SAVED Aetna!!@!11!1!!! Romulox Sep 2014 #93

No, they say things like, "I fucking hate Obamacare", as they are processing claims. tridim Sep 2014 #99

yeah that one made me LOL! nt m-lekktor Sep 2014 #105

Did you see this? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #109

Yep BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #177

The idea that there is never a justification for war, ever, is a denial of reality. baldguy Sep 2014 #90

"It became necessary to destroy the town to save it." nt Romulox Sep 2014 #95

That's exactly what anti-Obama "liberals" say about the Democratic Party, isn't it? baldguy Sep 2014 #136

And the suggestion that more bombs will "repair the damage we've done" . . . markpkessinger Sep 2014 #148

Utter bullshit. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #103

So, are you jumping on the "Michael Moore is a racist" bandwagon? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #110

Did I say he was a racist? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #111

Only if they need someone on the porcelain tuba. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #112

"He fucked up huge".. and he's got his little pretzel brigade out covering his tracks, poorly. Cha Sep 2014 #158

That's one way to spin it, I suppose. KamaAina Sep 2014 #125

So we should face the fact that if Progressive dog Sep 2014 #126

I have to keep reminding friends the "Change" was from this.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #138

But RACISM or something!!1 arcane1 Sep 2014 #127

How about not telling black folks what is or isn't racist rbrnmw Sep 2014 #128

Taken like that? Yes it is. But that's not the way he said it. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #137

Moore is right. Obama ran as a transformational president. Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #130

Moore is dead wrong. and so are you. but don't let the facts get in your way. Cha Sep 2014 #157

Thanks for the fact-free rebuttal. nt Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #192

What's a transformational President? treestar Sep 2014 #168

Transformational in the sense that the president changes society. Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #191

How can the President change society? treestar Sep 2014 #193

Reagan certainly changed society. FDR did more so. nt Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #195

How? treestar Sep 2014 #196

Saying that you need a chicken to get an egg, Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #198

Those turning on Moore are, frankly, just hypocrites Marrah_G Sep 2014 #133

...^ that 840high Sep 2014 #155

Oh and don't forget that Obama is really Kenyan born so he's illegitimately president Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #139

I like obama too. redruddyred Sep 2014 #142

'Truth' is a slippery word. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #152

The truth I mentioned is the way Obama hasn't received the credit he deserves. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #172

Lol, yer gonna need some Tuck's medicated pads Jamastiene Sep 2014 #156

I don't know about the pads Mnpaul Sep 2014 #163

I can feel the luv all right. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #171

What he said was Obama would be forgotten to an extent like say treestar Sep 2014 #164

Why do you think the Republicans are blocking everything? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #173

They are fanatical morons treestar Sep 2014 #184

That's the way a lot of people WANT to take it. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #185

No, he was saying that Obama hasn't gotten credit for anything else. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #187

I'm biracial and I agree. K & R. Nt riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #169

It seems you wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in the face frazzled Sep 2014 #178

MM also appears to think Obama is mayor of Detroit. ucrdem Sep 2014 #179

What will be funny is how many in a certain group will vanish when Obama is gone. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #189

One can only hope. n/t QC Sep 2014 #197

Did he say anything like that about President Clinton? treestar Sep 2014 #188

He said Clinton and Dole had exactly the same positions. Which they did. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #190

He said that Bill Clinton was the best Republican president QC Sep 2014 #194