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JDPriestly

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65. It is a greater charge than I expected based on what I know.

Reply to elleng (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:08 PM

Apr 2012

We shall see how it goes.

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George Zimmerman is PRESUMED innocent.... [View all] mike_c Apr 2012 OP

+1 Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #1

It's a shame that Trayvon Martin didn't have that choice of being innocent until proven guilty.. HipChick Apr 2012 #2

There's no evidence he was shot in the back. nt TheWraith Apr 2012 #7

Thought it as chest. emilyg Apr 2012 #11

I'm going to guess something... Fawke Em Apr 2012 #29

Yes, I was guessing a surveillance camera tabatha Apr 2012 #56

What I imagine is he mr_liberal Apr 2012 #75

Your imagination is wrong. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #79

The eye witness said it was Zimmerman. nm mr_liberal Apr 2012 #80

Points for saying something unpopular, although I don't regret expressing my own opinion on it. nt TheWraith Apr 2012 #3

He is PRESUMED Innocent... Pilotguy Apr 2012 #4

indeed, that is a worthy correction.... mike_c Apr 2012 #8

lol got root Apr 2012 #14

yeah, I'm an addict.... mike_c Apr 2012 #26

too funny. robinlynne Apr 2012 #31

becuase I have all these things to do, but I keep clikcing on the latest too. wanting more. robinlynne Apr 2012 #32

:) got root Apr 2012 #38

Isn't it sad when you go to the greatest page after two or three hours and there are no new ops? robinlynne Apr 2012 #58

I'm a DU addict too. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #61

CRIMINALLY presumed innocent. That does not apply to public opinion. WingDinger Apr 2012 #20

+1 Motown_Johnny Apr 2012 #83

There is an irony in the language... cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #15

Agreed alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #5

I think we can safely assume... liberalmuse Apr 2012 #6

The thing I had about all of it was cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #9

this killer has already confessed got root Apr 2012 #10

To shooting, yes, but elleng Apr 2012 #21

to killing an innocent, and unarmed, kid, as well as instigating the confrontation got root Apr 2012 #37

It is a greater charge than I expected based on what I know. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #65

Would be less flame bait if OP said 'GZ is innocent until proven guilty.' elleng Apr 2012 #12

Yes, it is intended to pre-outrage cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #16

I've edited the OP to reflect that.... mike_c Apr 2012 #19

Yes, we often need to remind ourselves of that. elleng Apr 2012 #23

+ 1000 Oneka Apr 2012 #48

we're not a court or vice-presidents of the U.S. bigtree Apr 2012 #13

I bet that's how a lot of potential jurors feel. dkf Apr 2012 #62

You are correct XanaDUer Apr 2012 #17

No you are right. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I will be honest though I at one Justice wanted Apr 2012 #18

I can only speak for myself but Iris Apr 2012 #22

Only PRESUMED innocent in a court of law. Since he said he shot/killed Trayvon, he is guilty of uppityperson Apr 2012 #24

Completely agreed SteveABG Apr 2012 #25

Hell, I don't care. I hate the motherfucker just for being so dangerous. NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #27

Innocent or not the disparate treatment that has been shown cannot be overlooked or denied. live love laugh Apr 2012 #28

By the court, yes. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #30

Presumed innocent by the legal system (courts), not by society. NutmegYankee Apr 2012 #33

More accurately the burden is on the prosecution Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #34

LOL. So many people here upset with the charge. Solomon Apr 2012 #35

Yea ...I tried this too and the hang em now mob piled on. Good luck. L0oniX Apr 2012 #36

By not having brought charges, George Zimmerman had been presumed not guilty of a crime indepat Apr 2012 #39

Yes but..... ya know zipplewrath Apr 2012 #40

Sorry, mike. In your scenario, cheney, too is presumed innocent Cerridwen Apr 2012 #41

PRESUMING HE'S INNOCENT, BUT . . . madashelltoo Apr 2012 #42

When you do turn on your computer, I hope you will read this. pennylane100 Apr 2012 #43

That is the courtroom legal standard bluestateguy Apr 2012 #44

+1 nashville_brook Apr 2012 #46

Three words "Duke Lacrosse Team"... soc7 Apr 2012 #45

Yes. I've thought about that case during the Trayvon public debacle. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #51

apples and oranges - imho got root Apr 2012 #52

if i was called to serve on the jury barbtries Apr 2012 #47

In a Court of Law. bluedigger Apr 2012 #49

You are correct. I want for him what I'd want for everyone: presumption of innocence. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #50

No flames, but the presumption of innocence is for a court of law Bjorn Against Apr 2012 #53

George Zimmerman didn't presume Trayvon Martin to be innocent until proven guilty. DrewFlorida Apr 2012 #54

Welcome to DU and good post. uppityperson Apr 2012 #55

Welcome to DU! yardwork Apr 2012 #63

Well said. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #68

Hello bigwillq Apr 2012 #69

The positive thing in this is the 2nd degree murder charge - TBF Apr 2012 #85

This is only the umpteenth post about George's presumed innocence.. K Gardner Apr 2012 #57

Maybe of murder but he clearly saw blacks as suspicious and his stupid fucking mistakes Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #59

And all the Martin family and their supporters have been asking is for an ARREST csziggy Apr 2012 #60

I agree, mike_c JDPriestly Apr 2012 #64

Way to flog that straw lynch mob. enki23 Apr 2012 #66

No flames from me, Mike. Aristus Apr 2012 #67

Well, thank goodness he will finally face a court off law frazzled Apr 2012 #70

He is presumed innocent, and you presume us guilty of not understanding that. hmmm n/t Gore1FL Apr 2012 #71

The judge and jury at his trial have to give him a presumption of innocence. The rest of us don't. backscatter712 Apr 2012 #72

Amen. The saintly and the scum of the earth deserve the same protection under our Constitution. n/t RufusTFirefly Apr 2012 #73

+1 to infinity. nt Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #74

...in a court of law. Iggo Apr 2012 #76

and OJ was found not guilty of murder. provis99 Apr 2012 #77

I don't understand the distinction for us, those of us posting on a messge board DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #78

That's right. But the fact is, he was presumed mzmolly Apr 2012 #81

Presumed innocent in a court of law, the court of public opinion can think however it wants. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #82

No one in this matter have lost any enumerated rights at all (except for Trayvon...) LanternWaste Apr 2012 #84

In a court of law he's presumed innocent. I'm not in a court of law, nor on a jury. ehrnst Apr 2012 #86