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MannyGoldstein

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20. When Sanders said that, Obama had already traded away Single Payer

Reply to BzaDem (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:24 PM

Apr 2012

in a closed-door deal with Pharma and the like.

Once the leader of the Party swore to oppose it, would you expect members to openly fight the President?

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Obamacare Would Make Insurance Companies Give Consumers Their $2 billion Back [View all] ProSense Apr 2012 OP

Interesting. savalez Apr 2012 #1

This is why right here why they want this over turned so badly cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #2

They don't want all of it overturned.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #4

They want ProSense Apr 2012 #6

How many seniors will lose health care MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #8

Here, ProSense Apr 2012 #10

Fact: the President attempted to raise Medicare eligibility by 2 years MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #11

Do you have anything to say about ProSense's actual post? BzaDem Apr 2012 #12

I'm MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #21

To trade something away, don't you have to have it in the first place? BzaDem Apr 2012 #23

Two-Thirds of Americans want Medicare for All MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #26

No part of it is confusing me; I'm not the one who's confused. BzaDem Apr 2012 #27

We've had it your way for 20 years. Happy? MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #30

The only reason we have Social Security is because FDR IGNORED views like yours. BzaDem Apr 2012 #31

Compromise vs. Capitulation MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #33

+1 nt freedom fighter jh Apr 2012 #34

So someone somewhere actually has the figures for current MLR? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #3

What ProSense Apr 2012 #5

To calculate any difference would require the actual current MLR.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #9

I think they said that whatever the various MLRs were for each insurance company, the amounts BzaDem Apr 2012 #14

I've never seen the actual figure for the current MLRs.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #15

That's one-tenth of one percent of health care costs MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #7

That's nice. How is that relevant to politics in this country? BzaDem Apr 2012 #13

It shows that 1% > 99%? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #16

When Sanders said that, Obama had already traded away Single Payer MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #20

So what? Are you actually suggesting that it would have gotten a non-negligible number of votes in BzaDem Apr 2012 #24

I guess we'll never know. MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #25

But that's the thing -- the vast majority of people who understand our political system DO know. BzaDem Apr 2012 #28

I utterly despise being sold to an entity I blame for the deaths of loved ones.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #29

The real question is: are you willing to tell 16 million people that they can't have Medicaid, BzaDem Apr 2012 #32

This is the motivating dynamic that will drive up health care costs even faster than Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #17

K & R. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #18

$10 per person zipplewrath Apr 2012 #19

Good start. Then the govt can give consumers/tax payers back a few trillion. Zax2me Apr 2012 #22

K & R Scurrilous Apr 2012 #35

K & R Scurrilous Apr 2012 #36