When You Are 'Agin Everything', Ma'am, Some People Will Always Find You Right, Some Of the Time (Reply #43)

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Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:40 AM

43. When You Are 'Agin Everything', Ma'am, Some People Will Always Find You Right, Some Of the Time

His commentary against Bush was as clownish and hyperbolic as his commentaries today. A number of creatures of this type, like Alex Jones and Lyndon LaRouche, switched without missing a beat from vociferous criticism of Bush and Co. to vociferous criticism of President Obama and his administration and its policies. They were no more 'right' then than they are 'right' now. When one begins with faulty premises, builds on false to fact statements, and joins them with fallacious logic, it is not possible for the edifice so constructed to be correct, even if one manages somehow to end up saying something that could be considered more or less true.

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107 replies	Author	Time	Post
NATO attacks! [View all]	JEB	Sep 2014	OP
Ridiculous nonsense.	FSogol	Sep 2014	#1
.	Rex	Sep 2014	#2
Not fit for fishwrap.	Chan790	Sep 2014	#3
Not familiar with this journalist apparently. Pepe Excobar never talks nonsense. He's another one of	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#10
That's because most Americans probably think NATO stands for North American Treaty Org.	Rex	Sep 2014	#17
I'm familiar with him...	Chan790	Sep 2014	#23
Credibility with whom?.....	socialist_n_TN	Sep 2014	#30
He means credibility like this no doubt:	Threedifferentones	Sep 2014	#74
I Suspect He Means Credibility Like This, Sir....	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#75
Credibility rests on honesty and clarity	reorg	Sep 2014	#87
Anti-American?? Prove that vile personal attack or apologize for it.	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#37
Ooh, he called you a pacifist twice! Take that, you dirty un-American!	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2014	#55
A informative and entertaining summary	JEB	Sep 2014	#4
Pretty thin gruel there, Pepe.	BillZBubb	Sep 2014	#5
Some textbook projection from yet another Pootlicker. nt	geek tragedy	Sep 2014	#6
Pepe Escobar is a Putin lover too now? Omfg!	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#11
Lots of attacking the messenger, Pepe Escobar, but	JEB	Sep 2014	#13
+1,000	malaise	Sep 2014	#26
Pepe is used to that. Remember when Bush/Cheney were around and Pepe Escobar was exposing their lies	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#80
Laugh out load made me laugh out loud.	OilemFirchen	Sep 2014	#15
!!!	Tarheel_Dem	Sep 2014	#16
He does seem to be a fan	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2014	#69
So we WERE fans of Saddam Hussein when we pointed out that removing him would totally destabilize	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#79
I don't remember people talking about 'legendary speeches' of Saddam, or credited him	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2014	#84
You don't think Putin's speech 2007 in Munich was great?	reorg	Sep 2014	#88
From the man responsible for so much death in Chechnya, and who invaded Georgia a year later,	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2014	#90
I asked about the speech	reorg	Sep 2014	#93
South Ossetia being in Georgia, not in Russia, when Putin sent in armed forces it was an invasion	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2014	#94
The speech was held in 2007	reorg	Sep 2014	#96
Pepe makes a good point.	JEB	Sep 2014	#7
"if Kiev gave up Crimea"	Recursion	Sep 2014	#21
I don't get it.	ieoeja	Sep 2014	#71
A Russian annexation is not a "dispute"	Recursion	Sep 2014	#89
So, how would you characterize	reorg	Sep 2014	#98
Pepe Escobar	Cali_Democrat	Sep 2014	#8
Well, he ain't no Luke Russert.	JEB	Sep 2014	#9
I didn't know he was from Brazil. Mighty interesting.	Tarheel_Dem	Sep 2014	#14
Remember when he was writing about Bush/Cheney's lies about Iraq? He was crazy then	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#38
The answer to "why is NATO involved" is very obvious	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2014	#86
Silly writing from a silly person	alcibiades_mystery	Sep 2014	#12
Could you expand on that, what do you consider 'silly' in the article? Are you familiar with this	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#39
True, Sir	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#76
This article makes more sense than all the jingoism	JEB	Sep 2014	#18
Why in the world would a small country want to join an organization to protect against	pampango	Sep 2014	#19
Germany, Sweden, France have all participated	reorg	Sep 2014	#20
Which neighbouring countries have they bombed...nt	SidDithers	Sep 2014	#27
The Reference, Sir, Is Probably To Serbia	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#29
Germany has 9 neighbors - Denmark, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg,	pampango	Sep 2014	#31
well, as a German citizen I take the liberty	reorg	Sep 2014	#32
And as to the self-interest of Germany in these attacks? Any territorial gains for Deutchland?	pampango	Sep 2014	#33
I know, it's as silly as saying that any ME or African or East European nation needs to worry about	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#40
If there are countries that are so afraid of possible NATO intervention that they want to band	pampango	Sep 2014	#50
I have noticed that most of our 'enemies' other than the Soviet Union, have been Brown people. The	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#81
"Our enemies" have also included Germany (twice), Spain, the UK and Serbia, not	pampango	Sep 2014	#85
Kick..	elias49	Sep 2014	#22
Been smoking old tennis shoes i see.	Katashi_itto	Sep 2014	#24
...	SidDithers	Sep 2014	#25
That It Is, Sir	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#28
Journalistic Integrity, Pepe could use some.	NCTraveler	Sep 2014	#34
People who know their end game and then start writing their stories are not journalists.	JEB	Sep 2014	#35
Indeed, Sir: Not a Journalist, Just An Op-Ed Type	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#36
Crystal and Newsmax were on a par with Escobar regarding the FP of George Bush?	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#41
When You Are 'Agin Everything', Ma'am, Some People Will Always Find You Right, Some Of the Time	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#43
Could you provide some examples of his 'clownish reporting' on Bush/Cheney's policies?	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#44
Mere Noise, Ma'am, The Ritual Of The Professionally Poutraged	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#45
My question was serious. I see lots of 's/he's not credible' claims, but whenever I ask for guidance	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#51
Poke Around Near-By, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#52
It's entirely possible, Your Honor...	OilemFirchen	Sep 2014	#58
Then With Your Permission, Sir, I Will Repeat Your Post:	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#62
No it is not at all possible. I have not and never have had anyone on ignore..	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#83
I have poked around. Is there any reason why you think I might not have? I asked you for your	sabrina 1	Sep 2014	#82
That is exactly what I've been trying to ask.	JEB	Sep 2014	#53
Bilderberg!!!	OilemFirchen	Sep 2014	#47
Falsifying the black box(es):	OilemFirchen	Sep 2014	#42
Or original cockpit conversation...	whistler162	Sep 2014	#92
And Here, Sir, Is The View Of 'The Saker Blogger' He Cites as Authoritative....	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#48
Saker really seems to just out himself with that, sir.	NuclearDem	Sep 2014	#63
He Certainly Did, Sir	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#65
Journalistic Integrity, Pepe (Dan Rather) could use some.	JEB	Sep 2014	#49
"Kill the messenger!"	NCTraveler	Sep 2014	#56
Who has a track record to meet your standards that does reliable reporting on Ukraine?	JEB	Sep 2014	#59
We can start with someone who doesn't cite antisemitic hate sites.	NuclearDem	Sep 2014	#61
Less than helpful.	JEB	Sep 2014	#64
Hey, Escobar's the one who cited that Holocaust denier Saker, not me.	NuclearDem	Sep 2014	#66
And Then There Is This, Sir	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#72
I don't think Escobar cited a Holocaust denier	reorg	Sep 2014	#91
Saker is a Holocaust denier and dog whistle antisemite.	NuclearDem	Sep 2014	#95
You feel comfortable making such a claim	reorg	Sep 2014	#97
Only a fellow Jew-hating bigot would defend that language.	geek tragedy	Sep 2014	#99
Are you calling me a "fascist bigot"?	reorg	Sep 2014	#100
They share a common ideology with the website you are so eager to promote	geek tragedy	Sep 2014	#102
so you don't have any comments	reorg	Sep 2014	#103
Neo-Nazis exist in many countries.	geek tragedy	Sep 2014	#104
You show remarkable restraint	reorg	Sep 2014	#105
Almost as impressive as Der sturmer's reporting on the	geek tragedy	Sep 2014	#107
So much for our "pivot to Asia". Bet the Chinese are laughing themselves silly	LittleBlue	Sep 2014	#46
All you need to do from this oped is that he cites vineyard saker.	NuclearDem	Sep 2014	#54
Escobar is exactly correct.	cheapdate	Sep 2014	#57
Those were Soviet tanks.	JEB	Sep 2014	#60
Yes, those were Soviet tanks, but	cheapdate	Sep 2014	#68
What a Lot Of People Do Not Seem To Get, Sir, Is That These People Are Entertainers	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#73
I doubt if this will meet the standards for some here, but	JEB	Sep 2014	#67
To Be Blunt, Sir	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#70
Nah those are just soldiers on holiday...	whistler162	Sep 2014	#77
Sad, Sir, The Things Some People Will Try And Believe	The Magistrate	Sep 2014	#78
Uh huh	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Sep 2014	#101
Goofy propaganda	chrisa	Sep 2014	#106

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