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Kaleva

(36,147 posts)
44. Depends on what he's charged with.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:44 PM
Apr 2012

I don't think he's guilty of 1st degree murder and with the grand jury not involved, he's not going to be charged with that crime.

I'm certain that he shot an unarmed man and the man died. Skidmore Apr 2012 #1
Unarmed child. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #21
What? janx Apr 2012 #63
I'm referring to the countless posts here that refer to Trayvon as an "unarmed child". Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #65
In that case, make it known that you are doing so, please. janx Apr 2012 #69
He sure as fuck was a child. Iggo Apr 2012 #77
He was a child. He couldn't vote, drink, sign a contract. He was a child, under the care of his MADem Apr 2012 #91
Isnt 17 at least the age of consent in FL? Becka2515 Apr 2012 #107
In some states it's 16... BklnDem75 Apr 2012 #111
Thank you madokie Apr 2012 #84
We don't know for certain. And it's pretty clear the local cops made sure we wouldn't know. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #2
I'm certain it's at least manslaughter. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #3
I concur. bayareamike Apr 2012 #46
Results are in. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #56
I'm sure that he should be charged. cali Apr 2012 #4
+1 n/t iscooterliberally Apr 2012 #8
No idea whatsoever gratuitous Apr 2012 #5
I am certain he deserves his day in court PRONTO that way he can try to clear his name Vincardog Apr 2012 #6
The thing I really wonder about.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #7
I have no idea zappaman Apr 2012 #9
Yes, the amount of clairvoyance around here is astounding. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #22
holy crap a voice of fucking reason :p Mysfyt Apr 2012 #37
There's too much evidence that we haven't seen yet rbixby Apr 2012 #10
I'm certain he pursued an unarmed person who wasn't breaking any laws and pursued him WI_DEM Apr 2012 #11
I know that he pursued and shot to death an innocent unarmed young man. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #12
I'm certain there should be a trial d_r Apr 2012 #13
We know he killed that kid.... ingac70 Apr 2012 #14
I'm not certain... hamsterjill Apr 2012 #15
No positive of either... ileus Apr 2012 #16
He's floated multiple accounts pokerfan Apr 2012 #17
Add that to the Zimmerman family lies Boabab Apr 2012 #49
I'm certain that Zimmerman shot Trayvon... polichick Apr 2012 #18
I'm sick of this topic and I am perfectly content with waiting for the jury to decide the verdict. Quantess Apr 2012 #19
I'm certain the police fucked up and there should be a trial. after that......... slampoet Apr 2012 #20
Depends... Ohio Joe Apr 2012 #23
I'm positive there's enough to charge him with a crime WolverineDG Apr 2012 #24
Am I 100% sure Zimmerman needed to use deadly lethal force? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #25
I believe that Zimmerman hunted Trayvon just as a hunter tracks down a deer. n/t RebelOne Apr 2012 #26
So that whole "innocent until proven guilty" just doesn't apply? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #28
Since Zimmy admitted he killed Trayvon, is he still "innocent until proven guilty"? uppityperson Apr 2012 #31
Innocent of murder? Well, yes, until proven otherwise. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #35
He is guilty of killing Trayvon. Even before jury rules it. uppityperson Apr 2012 #36
I realize you didn't. That was the whole point. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #41
Self-defense went out the window when GZ initiated the confrontation Boabab Apr 2012 #52
IF Zimmerman initiated the PHYSICAL confrontation, you would be right. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #61
People being stalked have no right to do anything physical until it happens to them? Huh. uppityperson Apr 2012 #70
So you believe in pre-emptive strikes? Huh. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #75
You stalk me. I push you. You shoot me. Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying what you believe is good. uppityperson Apr 2012 #80
That's great that you know EXACTLY what happened that night. You were there, I take it? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #95
Good grief. I wasn't talking ONLY about Zimmy/Trayvon and neither were you... uppityperson Apr 2012 #96
I actually WAS speaking about Zimmerman. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #97
They do have a right to protect themselves obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #109
Can you prove he was merely speaking to the boy? vaberella Apr 2012 #72
I cannot PROVE anything, and neither can you. We weren't there. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #74
Speaking to someone very much can be considered assault obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #108
how does an individual's opinion, which carries zero legal weight and zero legal consequence...? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #82
I just think we should also presume people are innocent until proven guilty Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #86
I don't believe that voicing an honest and sincere opinion is casting stone... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #89
I think YOU can do what you want, but you have one hell of a nerve telling the rest of us what "we" MADem Apr 2012 #93
"hyperbolic overly dramatic" ... you just summed up your response Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #94
You're not talking to a juror. We don't have to be impartial here. MADem Apr 2012 #92
It's a presumption of innocence which a legal right of the accused BklnDem75 Apr 2012 #112
Zimmerman thinks he's guilty. randome Apr 2012 #27
If he called the prosecutor then that to me is a sign of guilt. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #34
I am 100% positive that BootinUp Apr 2012 #29
If Zimmerman hadn't been out racially profiling, Trayvon would have gotten home with his skittles Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #45
100% certain that he committed a crime, several in fact. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #30
I am positive that he shot Trayvon... tallahasseedem Apr 2012 #32
He certainly did wrong rrneck Apr 2012 #33
I can't claim to be certain of what happened; that's what a trial is for. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2012 #38
That's freepers for you treestar Apr 2012 #39
Ummm...look around here. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #42
i think it will really suck Mysfyt Apr 2012 #40
We know for sure that he shot the kid. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #43
Depends on what he's charged with. Kaleva Apr 2012 #44
75 % sure he's guilty (even under that fucked-up Florida law). 100% sure he should be arrested ... 11 Bravo Apr 2012 #47
With his past violence in mind, I think it was 2nd Degree Murder ecstatic Apr 2012 #48
FR is certain he's innocent? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #50
Not all freepers are. janx Apr 2012 #54
No reasonable doubt in my mind, except whether they can find 12 jurors to convict him in Florida. Hoyt Apr 2012 #51
I'm certain he stalked and shot an unarmed teenager who went to buy candy. DevonRex Apr 2012 #53
I think the media is not the place to hold a "trial" ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #55
Did his actions result in a death? Yes. BeHereNow Apr 2012 #57
Rule 1. If the alibi keeps changing, somebody lying. hobbit709 Apr 2012 #58
from what we know, it is pretty clear that the vigilantie is guilty of murder got root Apr 2012 #59
I'm positive he killed Trayvon. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #60
We don't have the details yet. applegrove Apr 2012 #62
Important evidence has not yet been presented Lurks Often Apr 2012 #64
I am absolutely 100% positive that hootinholler Apr 2012 #66
Funny. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #68
Neither positive nor negative - this is for a court to decide Taverner Apr 2012 #67
I am certain that Trayvon was the victim of malicious intent. vaberella Apr 2012 #71
I am 100% certain that he stalked Trayvon and that resulted in his death. nt Incitatus Apr 2012 #73
I'm 100% certain I know nothing beyond what the flappy-armed media has screamed at me. Throd Apr 2012 #76
I'm 100% certain that much of what is written above is wrong. SlipperySlope Apr 2012 #78
problem is we don't know anything. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #79
99 percent sure he's guilty on multiple crimes, barring some new facts being revealed Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #81
I'm certain that what he did was morally wrong and foolish, and that Trayvon should not have died slackmaster Apr 2012 #83
I am, for all practical purposes, certain he shot and killed an unarmed juvenile. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #85
Not certain of anything. Will be anxious to see trial. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #87
After the Duke University incident, I never know anything Prism Apr 2012 #88
With all due respect... BronxBoy Apr 2012 #100
You've misread the reference Prism Apr 2012 #104
The man with the gun is alive. The kid with the candy is dead. MADem Apr 2012 #90
I'm pretty sure he is guilty.. sendero Apr 2012 #98
Have you had false accusations made against you regarding your Zimmerman desires? nt ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #99
There have been several.. sendero Apr 2012 #101
That can annoy me as well. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #105
100% sure he killed a black juvenile Curmudgeoness Apr 2012 #102
Outside of court, away from the record, having coffee? Zax2me Apr 2012 #103
I presume he is innocent. DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #106
He had a gun, he pursued even though instructed to stand down. NorthCarolina Apr 2012 #110
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