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DirkGently

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37. Aaaand you'd still need a "rule" against "rulers."
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 05:59 PM
Sep 2014

It's just an inanely childish concept. "Private enforcement" gets you to "coercion" just as quickly as a government or a leader, except without any assurances of fair or equitable treatment. You'd get warlords or corporate city-states, or another power structure immediately -- just as has always occurred from the beginning. Instead of the state or the country being The Man, it would be a copper mine or a criminal syndicate or something else. People in groups over a dozen or so do not share power in a fair and equitable manner outside of a governing structure of some kind.

Granted, the anarchists I've run into, who claim to have studied the more formal thinking about it -- "affinity groups!" probably have not, but they inevitably tend to be some pediatrician's kid who looks around and thinks all of the benefits of formal organized power structures are intrinsic to human nature and would remain in the absence of government, because they cannot fathom for an instant what an actual lack of such structure would look like or the "coercion" that would take place regardless.

Ask yourself ThoughtCriminal Aug 2014 #1
Trusting people who believe that Rassah Aug 2014 #23
No way! You mean greed and grifters are taking over Galt's Gulch? JaneyVee Aug 2014 #2
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!!!! Initech Sep 2014 #32
Poor Chile. As if the people who live there don't have enough problems. n/t Cleita Aug 2014 #3
+1 Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #14
Very interesting, he indicated they control enviromental issues of not allowing Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #4
Kind of destroys their concept of ... aggiesal Aug 2014 #17
Maybe they meant only if they control everything then it is okay. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #19
Bob the Angry Flower: Atlas Shrugged 2 hunter Aug 2014 #5
I am shocked, shocked that there is grift going on in this establishment. N/T politicat Aug 2014 #6
"Grifters, or incompetents, or both" perfect definition of both Republican and Libertarians. FSogol Aug 2014 #7
+1 freshwest Aug 2014 #21
Capitalism is not a system of ethics. Rand's mistake was to think it was. Wella Aug 2014 #8
Don't worry, everyone! The Wonderful Wizard of Market will solve all problems alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #9
"Is now"? Brickbat Aug 2014 #10
Not surprised sakabatou Aug 2014 #11
You don't have enough posts to start new threads. Please reply to some threads first. mobeau69 Aug 2014 #12
Now, now! I'll post it for you. It's an important video. And Happy Birthday Reverend Barber! freshwest Aug 2014 #22
Good for them, God bless them all. father founding Aug 2014 #13
They are not part of that group. At all. Rassah Aug 2014 #24
They wouldn't be interested - it is environmentally protected land under Chilean law. MH1 Sep 2014 #30
They picked that place because that government has some of the lowest restrictions in the world. Rassah Sep 2014 #33
Could there be a Heaven's Gate climax in their future? NBachers Aug 2014 #15
Of COURSE they're grifters. That's what ALL Right Wingers are.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #16
Don't mistake the people involved in this group with conservatives. Rassah Aug 2014 #25
Atlas Shrugged fans are Reaganites. Not fans of Gandhi. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #26
Most of the guys behind this one are anarchists, not randians. Rassah Sep 2014 #27
No, these guys claim to be self made individuals but all sound the same... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #29
Maybe most do, but I know these guys personally... Rassah Sep 2014 #34
Hate the country, love it's money. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #36
Not even that. Note these are all bitcoiners, so they don't love its money either. Rassah Sep 2014 #40
I've known people like that. They also dressed as Klingons at Trek conventions. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #44
Some of them even go to furry conventions! :D Rassah Sep 2014 #45
Another good article on this octoberlib Aug 2014 #18
oh, wait just a damn minute, you mean they can not force our Second Amendment on them? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #20
Ahhhh, I love that story...thank you! Pholus Sep 2014 #28
Caveat emptor: Awesome for sellers. Not DirkGently Sep 2014 #31
Anarchy doesn't mean "no rules" Rassah Sep 2014 #35
Aaaand you'd still need a "rule" against "rulers." DirkGently Sep 2014 #37
Why do you need a rule against rulers if there are no rulers? Rassah Sep 2014 #39
So civilization could be run by commercial arbitration? DirkGently Sep 2014 #43
Ah, yes, those anarchists :) Rassah Sep 2014 #46
Sorry, I wanted to post this earlier, but... Rassah Sep 2014 #47
Ayn Rand and John Calvin are two of the most under-rated people Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #38
I'm actually genuinely curious... Rassah Sep 2014 #42
A man chooses, a slave obeys. Would you kindly be a sucker. chrisa Sep 2014 #41
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