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In reply to the discussion: Russian President asks Western leaders to make Kiev negotiate peace. [View all]another_liberal
(8,821 posts)32. You can have that quote tattooed on you forehead . . .
Though it might attract a few stares.
However, do let me offer you a much better quote to repeat ad infinitum: Anyone who supports further conflict with Russia over Ukraine is dangerously misinformed about the likely consequences for themselves and those they care about. Anyone, be they gay, straight or totally asexual, who tells you it is good or necessary to enter an escalating conflict with Russia over Ukraine, is either profoundly ignorant concerning that subject or just completely lacking in imagination.
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Russian President asks Western leaders to make Kiev negotiate peace. [View all]
another_liberal
Aug 2014
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I haven't seen that they are even asking for secession (complete independence) . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#3
Do you even know what 'federalism' means? Are you at all familiar with Lavrov's
VanGoghRocks
Aug 2014
#5
I do know what a federal republic is. And I have not heard of the June proposal.
DetlefK
Aug 2014
#6
Lavrov made the proposal in late March (not June as I mistakenly wrote earlier):
VanGoghRocks
Aug 2014
#7
I see Brezinski is the new Valerie Nuland amongst the pro-separtist crowd.
Tommy_Carcetti
Aug 2014
#9
No One Is Twisting Your Words, Sir, Though Most Would Agree They Are A Bit Twisted....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#30
Your Quote, Sir, Your Forehead, And Yes, It Will Attract A Few Stares Your Way....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#33
Many Confuse Noteriety With Fame, Sir: You Are Far From The First To Do So....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#36
Your Quote, Sir, Your Forehead, And Yes, It Will Attract A Few Stares Your Way....
The Magistrate
Aug 2014
#48
Nice punt, with use of the old Marxian chestnut "false consciousness"
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#51
Zinn's book is a marvelous work, but it's no excuse for embracing Manichaeism
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#53
I have come to realize that you are correct in this case- Putin is not Mugabe
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2014
#88
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what brand of "liberalism" you subscribe to, so I can....
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#55
I get it. Nationalism, by anyone other than Russia, is verbotten. Got it! It's so amusing to hear
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#84
Germany invaded Poland in an act of unprovoked military aggression . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#71
Sounds like we agree that IF Russian soldiers and tanks were invading Ukraine THAT would be an act
pampango
Aug 2014
#72
No one is denying Russians are volunteering to fight in eastern Ukraine . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#73
You did not answer the question about what evidence, if any, would convince you that Russia itself
pampango
Aug 2014
#74
So if Russia does not capture Kiev, for whatever reason, then there is no acceptable evidence of
pampango
Aug 2014
#76
What you said was, if Kiev is not captured, then the Russia has not invaded. I asked, what if
pampango
Aug 2014
#78
If organized formations of the Russian army intentionally and without provocation . . .
another_liberal
Aug 2014
#80
Now we are getting somewhere. I accept your definiton of an invasion. Now what evidence
pampango
Aug 2014
#83