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309. They seem blindly to accept that sex is a men's thing

Reply to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #167)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:38 PM

Aug 2014

something for men to get. Women are only the providers. Blind to the fact they don't consider women equal.

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What are the main reasons men pay for sex? [View all] Blue_Adept Aug 2014 OP

I've wondered about the same thing. It would seem so unreal and cold. BlueJazz Aug 2014 #1

So you've never paid for something that you didn't want to do or couldn't get someone to do free? brooklynite Aug 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueJazz Aug 2014 #25

Those are all so much less personal treestar Aug 2014 #345

A Few Possable Reasons Sparhawk60 Aug 2014 #2

Agreed Mr Dixon Aug 2014 #29

These and others tazkcmo Aug 2014 #190

They're horny and prospects are poor. badtoworse Aug 2014 #3

right on the money badtoworse Nitram Aug 2014 #24

As somebody who couldn't get laid in a women's prison mythology Aug 2014 #135

Or they're not poor and they want a little strange on the side Warpy Aug 2014 #180

It's cheaper than dating? Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #4

I'd suggest the article Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #6

One quote I heard from someone familiar with the likes of Charlie Sheen, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #5

Efficacy... Hooked_n_Looped Aug 2014 #7

what does white priviledge have to do with buying sex leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #8

Only creepy old white men do this Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #11

ONLY creepy old white men use prostitutes? leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #12

A touch of hyperbole, that's all. nt Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #13

Then you'll have to explain why... Nitram Aug 2014 #26

I was talking more about the kind of narrative from US friends Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #39

in Britain, apparently jberryhill Aug 2014 #327

You are the racist, one with no qualms of displaying sheer ignorance. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #226

Candy betsuni Aug 2014 #9

Several possibilities come to mind: but putting a temporary end to loneliness tops the list. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #10

Yeah. I don't doubt that a lot of "johns" are violent, abusive creeps, though certainly not all. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #15

This topic has an endless number of possibilities ... In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #30

Why should anyone have to be available to be paid for? treestar Aug 2014 #37

Thirty years ago I would have gladly paid for a dinner companion. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #47

That's a different issue treestar Aug 2014 #23

Why is that a different issue? Orrex Aug 2014 #31

How tough is it to find someone to talk to? treestar Aug 2014 #36

Sounds like a good idea. One suggestion, though: Orrex Aug 2014 #46

If you're just lonely, why go so far as to have sex? treestar Aug 2014 #114

You'd have to ask someone who partakes of such services. Orrex Aug 2014 #124

To take your thought a step further, LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #138

Terrific point! Orrex Aug 2014 #140

and that is why I have purposely made my comments in this thread gender free. I can not speak Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #152

That's not equality treestar Aug 2014 #344

The number of female firefighters is slightly less than 4% LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #377

Express their sexuality? treestar Aug 2014 #343

Who's saying that there "should be a class of" anything. GoodwithWood Aug 2014 #413

"I'll sell my attention and support." dawg Aug 2014 #81

Which demonstrates that the claim that that is why men pay prostitutes is a lie. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #85

Oh, of course. dawg Aug 2014 #89

I'd say get that if loneliness is the issue treestar Aug 2014 #115

Oh. Right. SEX. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #33

#2 on the list is probably clients who need to Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #50

They don't "need" to. They simply want to, and they have the extra money required redqueen Aug 2014 #54

It's understandable. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #59

Interesting article, but it doesn't support the headline in the OP. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #14

Yes, I was expecting more of the former but, all we got was the later. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #90

Don't pay for SEX... shedevil69taz Aug 2014 #16

Humans are social creatures, and we need to be TOUCHED. Laelth Aug 2014 #17

Does anybody ever pay for that? treestar Aug 2014 #22

Massage. People pay for that, too. MineralMan Aug 2014 #35

Maybe I should charge the next man who runs into me on a bus. treestar Aug 2014 #38

Their personality might be why they would have to pay for it The2ndWheel Aug 2014 #52

Bingo. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #80

In the long run, a happier result might be treestar Aug 2014 #117

but, that would mean having to work on their personality Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #145

Massage isn't tossed out as a "need" that people simply must have. redqueen Aug 2014 #55

I agree. The poster above mentioned touch as a need. MineralMan Aug 2014 #60

I'd certainly pay for a hug. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #40

I'm sorry, Blue_Adept. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #63

Thanks Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #77

I'm sorry you were alone. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #91

I was there too Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #98

Are you still married to this woman? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #144

Nope Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #147

may I ask = Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #149

I do Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #151

Do you belong to any social groups/church or other organizations? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #154

I wish you lived in one of those places where nice people stand around tblue37 Aug 2014 #260

Thankfully Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #383

There are professional cuddlers here in the Pac NW. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #244

Prostitution isn't called "the oldest profession" for nothing. Laelth Aug 2014 #61

Again, men don't pay prostitutes for 'touch'. redqueen Aug 2014 #65

I find that distinction less than satisfying. Laelth Aug 2014 #68

You are being obtuse. PassingFair Aug 2014 #136

+10 n/t 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #251

Touch is extremely important. dawg Aug 2014 #84

People do pay to cuddle without sex: In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #87

Precisely. Laelth Aug 2014 #96

The article, beginning with the "just like every other long term couple except he pays her" Squinch Aug 2014 #19

Study after study shows most sex buyers are in relationships. redqueen Aug 2014 #57

Why is the current situation better? jeff47 Aug 2014 #133

Once again, you have two choices. Squinch Aug 2014 #182

You need to differentiate between involuntary and voluntary trafficking. jeff47 Aug 2014 #237

You guys will just pull anything out of your asses to justify this, won't you? Voluntary Squinch Aug 2014 #248

And depending on the type of sex worker, the sex workers have plenty of "rules" of their own R B Garr Aug 2014 #176

And that is why human trafficking thrives where prostitution is legal. redqueen Aug 2014 #194

I have an idea. sibelian Aug 2014 #20

Isn't that what the article did? Ask them? Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #41

That is exactly what the article did. Interesting anecdotal article. Yes. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #94

the patriarchy, male privilege, leads to the fact that treestar Aug 2014 #21

Uh, actually, there are male prostitutes. Nitram Aug 2014 #27

For gay men, perhaps? treestar Aug 2014 #34

treestar, are you unfamiliar with the term gigolo? Nitram Aug 2014 #43

I'm sure most DUers are familiar with that term kcr Aug 2014 #58

Exactly. treestar Aug 2014 #113

that is not just sex treestar Aug 2014 #112

Yes , for gay men. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #92

How about lesbian prostitutes? treestar Aug 2014 #116

Americans are so provincial at times! MADem Aug 2014 #119

They aren't just renting sex though treestar Aug 2014 #120

Well, pretty much, they are. MADem Aug 2014 #123

I'd be more concerned about improving myself treestar Aug 2014 #218

As a fellow middle-aged woman, I invite you to. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #198

If you've never heard of male prostitutes for women LittleBlue Aug 2014 #129

Thank you for bringing some common sense into this discussion hifiguy Aug 2014 #139

No, my comments are about the patriarchy treestar Aug 2014 #219

Did the mythical patriarchy make the other markets? LittleBlue Aug 2014 #221

No it didn't create the drug market treestar Aug 2014 #275

The desire for sex created the market for sex LittleBlue Aug 2014 #276

You're talking about sex as if it is something for men treestar Aug 2014 #308

No, you're wrong LittleBlue Aug 2014 #314

That's the rational conclusion of your statements treestar Aug 2014 #322

There are plenty of male prostitutes. n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #28

Only on TV Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #44

Will HBO's HUNG return this fall? B Calm Aug 2014 #72

Nope Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #78

Damn, I liked that show! B Calm Aug 2014 #79

Yes, like Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute... smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #213

With the countless stories from women The2ndWheel Aug 2014 #62

Here's the hard truth - redqueen Aug 2014 #69

Alright, women can be/have to be more particular in this area The2ndWheel Aug 2014 #102

Men don't "have" to pay for it. redqueen Aug 2014 #105

Correct me if I'm wrong... KansDem Aug 2014 #130

The reason that's the case is they insist on looking at women as sex providers treestar Aug 2014 #312

Really, how many rich women choose to express their sexual "freedom" in this way. smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #189

Compared to marriage, a much lower level of emotional, physical and financial investment isrequired. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #32

It seems simple to me dr.strangelove Aug 2014 #42

You left off one thing: Mutual attraction. MineralMan Aug 2014 #48

Thanks for pointing out that sex isn't a product. redqueen Aug 2014 #64

It's even BETTER than a product. It's a present. It's a gift. johnlucas Aug 2014 #393

'Mutual attraction' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #170

Interesting. Attractiveness isn't based on a standard. MineralMan Aug 2014 #173

Your 'personal, individual taste' is in large part based on societal standards. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #179

Very true. We are socialized to find beautiful that which is presented to us as beautiful. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #215

+100 smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #334

Human beings as objects to acquire "by price, gift or theft" BainsBane Aug 2014 #225

Could someone explain the "you don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave" thing? betsuni Aug 2014 #45

For some men, sex is something that is all about them, MineralMan Aug 2014 #49

I think it's a cover for bruised pride. dawg Aug 2014 #99

"Very misogynistic and angry." redqueen Aug 2014 #163

They're essentially looking for something a little better than masturbation jeff47 Aug 2014 #127

I believe the people who are saying it's about human touch are wrong. Right now, Squinch Aug 2014 #304

Yes, I never understood why someone would want to have sex smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #335

Sex? Rex Aug 2014 #51

Next question JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #53

People pay for touch. Laelth Aug 2014 #67

I can't relate JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #70

I am happy for you. Your need for human touch is being met. Laelth Aug 2014 #76

My husband would disagree JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #88

It is, perhaps, tragic that capitalism turns everything into a commodity. Laelth Aug 2014 #93

This statement JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #126

Excellent point. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #196

"... there's a heavy piece of 'power' for those who pay." redqueen Aug 2014 #71

I'm not going to though JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #73

Based on my bandstand observations of men and strippers, riqster Aug 2014 #56

But why is it, the vast majority of the time, men? There are women who are lazy and Squinch Aug 2014 #348

Lonely women aren't lonely because they aren't having sex -- Nay Aug 2014 #404

Back when I was in the Navy you might only be in a port of call for a few days B Calm Aug 2014 #66

Nobody "needs" sex with someone else. Your option is your hand. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #74

Seriously, LOL B Calm Aug 2014 #75

Seriously, LOL. All those men not masturbating for months at a time. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #86

Oh, they didn't abstain. That I can guarantee. MineralMan Aug 2014 #97

The amount of excuses and justifications used to push this neoliberal agenda here is disturbing. redqueen Aug 2014 #100

Not surprising, as you say. MineralMan Aug 2014 #107

There are tons of people who want NSA sex. redqueen Aug 2014 #159

NSA sex is fine. I've been in several relationships like MineralMan Aug 2014 #161

there are a lot of broken people out there. mopinko Aug 2014 #356

I know that's true. I've met some people who MineralMan Aug 2014 #385

no joy. exactly. mopinko Aug 2014 #387

I always thought it was a republican agenda to control what one does in bed. . B Calm Aug 2014 #142

"What one does in bed" can be either a private matter or a commercial transaction. redqueen Aug 2014 #157

"common ground".... that's funny. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #262

it magically becomes "progressive" sometimes, because magic. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #231

LOL hifiguy Aug 2014 #264

I'm glad I had something to do with that LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #318

Aww, shucks. Thanks. hifiguy Aug 2014 #319

This is a bug? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #245

Even the sonar dome isn't off-limits. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #257

Despite what lots of people seem to think, sex is not a basic biological 'need'. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #104

So mental needs don't enter into the equation? Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #106

you are conflating surviving with living and growing. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #146

There is no mental need to have sex with another person. redqueen Aug 2014 #164

"sexual intimacy" is tier 3 of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. opiate69 Aug 2014 #178

Maslow had an opinion. MadrasT Aug 2014 #240

+1 nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #249

I suppose it's proof that asexual people, who define themselves as different from sexual people, Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #254

One accepted by most psychologists hifiguy Aug 2014 #266

LMAO... yeah, he was just some dudebro, with like, an opinion, man... opiate69 Aug 2014 #280

yet oddly enough, some people get very upset if the concept of "porn addiction" is challenged. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #255

All I can say is hifiguy Aug 2014 #263

By that standard, children don't need education and women don't need access to contraception. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #236

You're comparing education and birth control to prostitutes. redqueen Aug 2014 #250

I give up. It's impossible to write a poutrage-proof post around here. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #253

Poor you. Squinch Aug 2014 #349

Actually, poor DU. This site is good but it could be better. (n/t) Jim Lane Aug 2014 #359

And risk blindness?? Kaleva Aug 2014 #238

TWO WORDS: BIG FONTS Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #243

Ah, Isn't that "problematic" also? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #242

You might WANT it but don't NEED it. nt Logical Aug 2014 #325

The biology is simply ball drainage relief with some validation of one's sexual identity. That's it. ancianita Aug 2014 #82

Men are what they are. Laelth Aug 2014 #103

I'll bite.... PassingFair Aug 2014 #134

Kinda messy. hifiguy Aug 2014 #205

Men are from Mars? betsuni Aug 2014 #234

Probably has something to do with urges and sketchy social skills. MADem Aug 2014 #83

k&r because this is an important issue and a provocative question. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #95

Because trash thread. Iggo Aug 2014 #101

Because they can. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #108

Oh look LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #109

Well, I never In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #118

. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #125

You've obviously never heard how loud a hooker can yell! rock Aug 2014 #110

Have money that isn't needed else where (or is and they don't care) and need something or want...... Tikki Aug 2014 #111

Supply and demand. LittleBlue Aug 2014 #121

Twas ever thus. hifiguy Aug 2014 #166

Exactly LittleBlue Aug 2014 #169

There are some on the left who are as dogmatically incapable hifiguy Aug 2014 #171

Off topic: How would primitive man even know how to make a saddle to put on a dinosaur? n/t Yavin4 Aug 2014 #195

Jebus magicked them up. hifiguy Aug 2014 #197

If Jesus could "magick" up a saddle, why not "magick" a car instead? Yavin4 Aug 2014 #206

Risky, too. Especially on a carnivorous dino. hifiguy Aug 2014 #210

Yeah. And it's perhaps worth asking what 'perfectible' even means. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #270

We are HUMAN BEINGS treestar Aug 2014 #324

"It's not a commodity it's a human relationship." jberryhill Aug 2014 #408

They want to get off/nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #122

With so much going on fadedrose Aug 2014 #128

David Vitter paid to be diapered. Ino Aug 2014 #131

I'm gonna guess it's to get sex. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #132

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #156

I suspect much of it reduces to a couple of core points: hifiguy Aug 2014 #137

I'll bet it is for the forbidden thrill. It's a turn on for some men, I am sure, just to go CTyankee Aug 2014 #141

I tend to agree that the illegality of it all (and forbidden in the marital context) is some part Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #168

Brothels are legal in Nevada. Laffy Kat Aug 2014 #228

Can you prove sales were higher before they Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #230

No, TA, I can't. nt Laffy Kat Aug 2014 #239

Why don't we see what the men themselves say? BainsBane Aug 2014 #143

I like that you supply anecdotal evidence to debate the anecdotal evidence in the OP Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #148

That's the way certain arguments go around here. hifiguy Aug 2014 #165

I also note that the OP specifically addresses the topic of why do MEN pay for sex Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #167

Male prostitutes largely serve men BainsBane Aug 2014 #204

All the more reason that it is not what Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #217

Yes it is a red herring and yet I notice the ones Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #313

They seem blindly to accept that sex is a men's thing treestar Aug 2014 #309

Feel free to post some academic research on the subject BainsBane Aug 2014 #201

i've tried that over my many years here. hifiguy Aug 2014 #212

You aren't the only one BainsBane Aug 2014 #235

Glad you posted this. I posted a link directly to a similar site above. redqueen Aug 2014 #192

I didn't think they'd click on the link. BainsBane Aug 2014 #193

Cracked me up reading some of these "reviews" phylny Aug 2014 #211

Some of them show the power of delusion BainsBane Aug 2014 #216

Yes, they didn't get the Girlfriend Experience - JC these people are delusional. n/t seaglass Aug 2014 #224

It's okay to walk into a bar and convince an inebriated stranger to have sex with you. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #150

No, actually that is rape BainsBane Aug 2014 #153

Okay, not inebriated. How about 2 drinks? Or 3 drinks? Yavin4 Aug 2014 #158

If she isn't inebriated, what's the problem? BainsBane Aug 2014 #181

But paying her would be unethical, right? Yavin4 Aug 2014 #184

Prostitution in theory is not IMO unethical BainsBane Aug 2014 #200

You introduce extraneous facts in order to support your argument. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #207

Why aren't you talking about it? BainsBane Aug 2014 #214

She can't answer your question LittleBlue Aug 2014 #295

And there is never any shortage of suckers hifiguy Aug 2014 #315

The arguments happen to deal with the reality BainsBane Aug 2014 #401

"Neoliberalism" is a term people who can think clearly hifiguy Aug 2014 #406

I answered the question BainsBane Aug 2014 #398

NOTE: Little Blue refused to agree to work for legalization in his own community BainsBane Aug 2014 #405

Wrong place. Deleted. BainsBane Aug 2014 #199

So every time 2 people hook up in a bar robbob Aug 2014 #281

99% of the time: they're horny. nt NickB79 Aug 2014 #155

If you don't pay in money, you pay in time. Either way there is exchange going on johnlucas Aug 2014 #160

How about paying for sex ... dawg Aug 2014 #162

That depends on the sex that you get in exchange. n/t Yavin4 Aug 2014 #185

They call those "romantic relationships" & more than sex is being exchanged johnlucas Aug 2014 #268

Everyone KNOWS there are privileged women who WANT to rent out their bodies. redqueen Aug 2014 #273

Her name is Maggie McNeil & her blog is the Honest Courtesan johnlucas Aug 2014 #290

"Maybe it's jealousy. The general labor whores are jealous that they're not getting the same R B Garr Aug 2014 #362

Oh you're mad because I called you a Labor Ho? Because that's exactly what you are johnlucas Aug 2014 #372

$5 dolla make you holla R B Garr Aug 2014 #373

Continuing to look down on the Prostitutes. And they wonder why things don't change. johnlucas Aug 2014 #380

Now you're contradicting yourself because before you said prostitutes were so highly paid R B Garr Aug 2014 #382

No contradiction whatsoever. I'm addressing that stigma on prostitution that prevents the reforms johnlucas Aug 2014 #388

Yep. LostInAnomie Aug 2014 #175

Thank you. It's irrational moralistic fear fueling this debate johnlucas Aug 2014 #269

You need to educate yourself. Squinch Aug 2014 #305

This happens because there's not an INTERNATIONAL effort on the issue johnlucas Aug 2014 #332

And while we wait for the whole world to come together on this, something that has never happened Squinch Aug 2014 #346

I did research. No country is putting out the resources necessary to stop it johnlucas Aug 2014 #350

"Stopping traffickng is not very hard." You have to understand that is an assinine statement. Squinch Aug 2014 #351

Based on an actual worker in the field, yeah johnlucas Aug 2014 #353

Based on a blog. So here's the thing. Yes. We get that you read a blog and you think everyone Squinch Aug 2014 #354

Dismissiveness is the sign of defeat. You don't wanna learn from the actual people themselves. johnlucas Aug 2014 #358

No dismissiveness is caused by the fact that your position: "getting rid of trafficking is easy" is Squinch Aug 2014 #363

Another ivory tower snob. No surprise here. johnlucas Aug 2014 #368

Very easy to stop. Do you remember 1865? johnlucas Aug 2014 #370

Wow. That's a really crazy analogy that has nothing to do with the situation under discussion. Squinch Aug 2014 #375

Has nothing to do with it? Slavery is Slavery. johnlucas Aug 2014 #381

Friendship and companionship are not quid pro quo LanternWaste Aug 2014 #177

Actually they are johnlucas Aug 2014 #267

So in the parent/child relationship - the parents are the pimps, and the kids are the hos? redqueen Aug 2014 #272

Parents are the Boss, yes. johnlucas Aug 2014 #287

Pimps *physically beat and abuse women*. They *intentionally get them addicted to drugs*. redqueen Aug 2014 #289

Actually not true. What do you think Maya Angelou did when she was young? johnlucas Aug 2014 #294

No it does not mean "one who is in charge of the prostitutes". redqueen Aug 2014 #296

I am ALL for cleaning up the criminal element in prostitution johnlucas Aug 2014 #297

Ducktales was awesome wasn't it? woolldog Aug 2014 #361

Ducktales WAS awesome. And trafficking went up because there was no follow through johnlucas Aug 2014 #365

That's an awful way to view life treestar Aug 2014 #310

What's so troubling with this for you exactly? johnlucas Aug 2014 #320

We are not things treestar Aug 2014 #321

We are MATTER. That means we are MATERIAL. That means we are THINGS. johnlucas Aug 2014 #326

Ugh treestar Aug 2014 #340

HA! I knew you'd miss it. Read this line johnlucas Aug 2014 #360

John, it isn't that we are missing your enlightened messages. It's that your messages are silly. Squinch Aug 2014 #364

Yeah, his "all the whores are jealous" pearls are hilarious. And now the car pearl: R B Garr Aug 2014 #367

Have you heard: Ending human trafficking is REALLY EASY!!!#211! Squinch Aug 2014 #374

lol, it is so darn easy!!1! It's just body parts. Parts is parts!!! R B Garr Aug 2014 #378

Wow. I just saw that. Squinch Aug 2014 #379

It does look like some messing is going on. R B Garr Aug 2014 #384

Without any recourse to logic. It's too loony to be real. Squinch Aug 2014 #386

Yep. Parts. And people are mad in this thread because some use their genital parts to make money johnlucas Aug 2014 #392

'Things' don't necessarily have to mean 'disposable' johnlucas Aug 2014 #390

All you are going on and on about is something called "Opportunity Costs". It's basic economic R B Garr Aug 2014 #407

You missed the point. 'Things' doesn't equal discardable johnlucas Aug 2014 #412

No what's silly is your prohibition mentality johnlucas Aug 2014 #389

Dear, you aren't really challenging or destroying anything. And your ridiculous assertions really Squinch Aug 2014 #395

Are you sure about trafficking increasing in every country? Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #396

Remember the conversation we had about that in the past? There are no Squinch Aug 2014 #397

Australia pop. 23.5m estimated people trafficked per year (NGO) 300-1000 LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #410

Increased trafficking is not connected to legalization, sorry johnlucas Aug 2014 #399

You are simply wrong about that. Squinch Aug 2014 #403

Maybe you're not. Some are, apparently jberryhill Aug 2014 #328

What prostitutes are to the johns treestar Aug 2014 #341

Because they want it. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #172

Their wives won't put out any more. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #174

Sexless/deadbedroom is up there Harmony Blue Aug 2014 #183

yep notadmblnd Aug 2014 #186

Sex advice columnist, Dan Savage, encourages married couples to visit an escort Yavin4 Aug 2014 #188

That saying reveals pure misogyny treestar Aug 2014 #342

If a man gives a woman roses, takes her to a Broadway show, and pays for a very expensive meal. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #187

As the old joke goes, hifiguy Aug 2014 #191

That is such an odd question. Do you think prostitutes want to date? Do prostitutes seaglass Aug 2014 #241

Honest prostitutes want cash. hifiguy Aug 2014 #265

Dishonest prostitutes want to date? Does not sound like an effective business strategy. Are you seaglass Aug 2014 #277

If you don't think gold diggers exist hifiguy Aug 2014 #279

Roses, a Broadway show and dinner are fairly paltry offerings for someone looking for gold, seaglass Aug 2014 #298

In NYC, that would add up to $1600 or so. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #299

If a woman slept with a man after a date is she considered a prostitute? Maybe in your mind. n/t seaglass Aug 2014 #301

So, you're not going to answer the question. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #302

I thought it was obvious, no I don't consider a woman who goes on a date with someone and then has seaglass Aug 2014 #303

I'm old fashioned...Sex on the first date...Hmmm... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #352

No, not all women are prostitutes. I'm disgusted that no one has called out this post and the one redqueen Aug 2014 #271

Where did I say that all women are prostitutes? Yavin4 Aug 2014 #282

This whole subthread is disgusting, as is the fact that so few have shit to say about it. redqueen Aug 2014 #283

Wow, you read soooo much into posts that it's worthless to even have a discussion with you Yavin4 Aug 2014 #286

Utter bullshit. redqueen Aug 2014 #291

Bravo rq - of course you are absolutely correct. seaglass Aug 2014 #300

You don't have a coherent argument. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #306

Child Labor and Slavery in the Chocolate Industry Yavin4 Aug 2014 #331

The word you're looking for is "commodification", not prostitution. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #288

Let me guess: you think you are a real nice guy, and don't understand why more women don't like you. Squinch Aug 2014 #307

LOL! smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #336

He's treating her that way treestar Aug 2014 #311

This board is full of geniuses. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #202

Who cares? Iron Man Aug 2014 #203

Um, THIS. hifiguy Aug 2014 #208

The same reason they try to seduce women without paying for it. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #209

Ability to fully dictate terms of a sexual encounter with no further obligation. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #220

Check out the Pictures that are released of those arrested for trying to pay for sex JI7 Aug 2014 #222

They're horny! n/t Yo_Mama Aug 2014 #223

Nature, elleng Aug 2014 #227

Many reasons abound bluestateguy Aug 2014 #229

because treating people like human beings takes time Skittles Aug 2014 #232

Because no one will fuck them for free? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #233

I'm just throwing this out there, but maybe he wants the fairy tale. RiffRandell Aug 2014 #246

Did I ever mention that I used to have an odd, almost preternatural loathing for BOTH those people? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #256

Hey, she was classy. RiffRandell Aug 2014 #259

Yeah, I believe it. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #261

Because they have some money. JEB Aug 2014 #247

For sexual release, I assume Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #252

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #258

Because they want to have an orgasm. Kurska Aug 2014 #274

Way back years ago madokie Aug 2014 #278

Maybe because women they are sexually attracted to aren't attracted to them. I remember raccoon Aug 2014 #284

Cause most are ugly blueamy66 Aug 2014 #285

Too ugly,fat,old, no personality etc mitchtv Aug 2014 #292

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There is an interesting back and forth in this thread AngryAmish Aug 2014 #316

People live on blocks near churches LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #317

All Asian? treestar Aug 2014 #323

They could yield to the economic draft JEB Aug 2014 #329

That could be so treestar Aug 2014 #337

Most humans are trafficked to work on farms, in restaurants, in hotels, in nail salons, etc. Yavin4 Aug 2014 #330

Yep. You got to the real nitty gritty on that one johnlucas Aug 2014 #333

It's not infantile not to want your body treestar Aug 2014 #339

Sex is a bit more intrusive treestar Aug 2014 #338

Tell that to the children who work on cocoa farms in Africa Yavin4 Aug 2014 #402

The two positions you describe are not mutually exclusive. There is no one on this board who Squinch Aug 2014 #347

"There is no one on this board who has a problem with consenting adults doing anything" LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #411

Government retains the right to designate where businesses can be located. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #409

They are lonely. Kablooie Aug 2014 #355

How much longer is this insipid thread going to take up space on the board? nt ladjf Aug 2014 #357

A long time. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #366

Forever! Muahahaha! chrisa Aug 2014 #369

I'm bullish on this thread Orrex Aug 2014 #400

Various reasons TSIAS Aug 2014 #371

I once worked for a married guy, who had a once a week lunchtime Cleita Aug 2014 #376

Because they can. ..nt TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #391

What is the main reason for this thread? edbermac Aug 2014 #394

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