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trotsky

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137. I guess we are just stupid or refuse to give up our evil ways.

Reply to mistertrickster (Reply #119)

Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:03 AM

Apr 2012

Thanks for sort of trying. At least you will have the enjoyment of knowing I'm burning in hell forever!

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I am a christian - and it affects ALL of my political views. [View all] SmileyRose Apr 2012 OP

"So it's best to let the judgement part up to God and live and let live instead." bloomington-lib Apr 2012 #1

the USA is not founded as a christian nation. some of its founders were christians. there is a msongs Apr 2012 #2

small c not big C SmileyRose Apr 2012 #4

Ok - some of the best christians i know are also athiests... Sorry, i missed the small "c" peacebird Apr 2012 #8

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read to date. Lionessa Apr 2012 #9

How about small c consistently compassionate. Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #18

Not to me. Atheists make good humans, not good christians no matter how twisty Lionessa Apr 2012 #21

just for balance.. I do know atheists who are arrogant egomaniacs Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #74

No doubt, I do think I say that somewhere, but the point is they NEVER Lionessa Apr 2012 #80

A beautiful post me b zola Apr 2012 #37

Well said. Thanks. cbayer Apr 2012 #72

Here's what my objection is. Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #81

There's an old story about the small-town folk that mistertrickster Apr 2012 #99

That's mighty white of you. Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #126

Dial back the anger and hate. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #127

What anger? What hate? I'm just trying to illustrate to christians why... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #128

haha SmileyRose Apr 2012 #133

yes but even big wars start over very small silly things Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #110

Given that, christian as a word(capitalized or not) is meaningless... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #116

Insult after insult dmallind Apr 2012 #24

Totally unfair. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #95

Totally irrelevant dmallind Apr 2012 #108

You can't take a compliment. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #121

That's a very good point mistertrickster Apr 2012 #33

Maybe the point is that what Christ taught Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #82

Who's disputing that? nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #93

My point would then be Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #94

christian SmileyRose Apr 2012 #129

Some of us can our knickers all in a twist over anything. MissMarple Apr 2012 #140

Christians are not "good people". Marr Apr 2012 #41

I am wiccan. I believe in the three fold law. That which I send out to the world returns 3x to me. peacebird Apr 2012 #3

Does the three fold law dictate that people deserve what they get? ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #15

Nope. That is not partof the three fold law. All it says is that what I send out into the world will peacebird Apr 2012 #16

I have never heard of that law!! but I've noticed the phenomenon Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #19

When i was ten a friends mom told me about karma, that youndon't need to "pay someone back" for peacebird Apr 2012 #20

You realize that when atheists ridicule and demean Christians for "illogical and unscientific" mistertrickster Apr 2012 #100

I am sorry for our nation then, folks mixing their religions no matter Lionessa Apr 2012 #5

I AGREE Skittles Apr 2012 #12

You mean like Lincoln? Nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #29

Huh?what does Lincoln have to do with this thread? Lionessa Apr 2012 #30

He applied his religious beliefs to gov't. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #32

I'm sorry but christians of his time didn't agree with his perception of Lionessa Apr 2012 #35

Slavery's defenders were on more solid footing in the theological debate over slavery. Marr Apr 2012 #42

The letter of the law killeth, mistertrickster Apr 2012 #48

Translation: Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #83

I'm curious about the reference to integrity el_bryanto Apr 2012 #71

I suspect your political views are what affects your religious views. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #6

you might be right SmileyRose Apr 2012 #14

Not so sure about that. Zalatix Apr 2012 #58

I am not sure what your point is. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #88

Women pastors violate the "man as the head" idea. Zalatix Apr 2012 #105

Yes, the church is probably liberal, or at least moderate. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #112

I wish all Christians were like this... liberalmuse Apr 2012 #7

Christian nation? Iggo Apr 2012 #10

Thank you. liberalmuse Apr 2012 #11

And the two times religion is actually mentioned in the constitution it's negative. Initech Apr 2012 #34

Very well said in my opinion. nt Live and Learn Apr 2012 #13

Thank you, Rose. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #17

So because a minimum of 60% of the world's most generous philanthropists are nonbelievers dmallind Apr 2012 #25

I have no problem whatsoever with atheists. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #27

That is rich Major Nikon Apr 2012 #38

Some atheists attack my belief system by acting superior. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #52

Oh, you have other ways to act superior, they are all over this thread... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #132

I think that you sound like a really good role model Marrah_G Apr 2012 #22

I was raised to be a Xian, but about 40 years ago I found this seminal quote Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #23

If God stops evil, mistertrickster Apr 2012 #28

Seems like many Christians are nothing but automatons... Tikki Apr 2012 #31

How about if we skip the word "evil" and just focus on, say, tsunamis. Marr Apr 2012 #43

Because everything that lives must die. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #118

If your baby died in a tsunami, you'd just sigh and say, Marr Apr 2012 #130

Is there evil in heaven? n/t trotsky Apr 2012 #50

No. Presumably there's no free will in heaven either. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #54

Sounds like a lovely place. trotsky Apr 2012 #67

One can't reduce the ineffable mind of God mistertrickster Apr 2012 #75

Ah yes, "god works in mysterious ways." trotsky Apr 2012 #79

You are a legend in your own mind. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #86

Time for the dueling Einstein quotes already? trotsky Apr 2012 #98

Fair enough, but he also criticized atheism. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #101

He criticized what is classified as "strong" or gnostic atheism. trotsky Apr 2012 #102

Many people rejected Jesus during His lifetime. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #119

I guess we are just stupid or refuse to give up our evil ways. trotsky Apr 2012 #137

Now wait a minute. Marr Apr 2012 #104

The way humans see God changed greatly mistertrickster Apr 2012 #120

So... what? Those wrathful episodes didn't actually happen? Marr Apr 2012 #131

If we have free will, "god" is superfluous Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #117

It does have a lot to do with upbringing SmileyRose Apr 2012 #45

SmileyRose, a number of the Founding Fathers JDPriestly Apr 2012 #26

What on earth did people do before the Christians came along and invented good people? MuseRider Apr 2012 #36

Homo sapiens were all murderous assholes for 48,000 years. Marr Apr 2012 #44

Home School History 101. Iggo Apr 2012 #64

Homeschooling with a 48,000 year old earth? I don't think so. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #114

Excellent point, sir! Iggo Apr 2012 #115

So, are you saying that without your belief you would be a cruel, selfish, parasite? n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #39

You're confusing religion with morality Major Nikon Apr 2012 #40

Maybe SmileyRose Apr 2012 #46

Those aren't Christian values lunatica Apr 2012 #47

Abraham Lincoln's Christian faith in action: mistertrickster Apr 2012 #49

George W. Bush's Christian faith in action: trotsky Apr 2012 #51

True. But I didn't "ignore" it. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #53

"Christianity can be used to justify many different and contradictory conclusions." cleanhippie Apr 2012 #55

Oh, it's you again. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #56

Accepting diversity does not include tolerating intolerance. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #60

Some do, some don't. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #61

I find it curious how you only see whast you want to. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #66

Not an actual rebuttal, is it. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #77

Just following your lead. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #78

You'd expect something clever-er than that mistertrickster Apr 2012 #87

Bwahahahaha! Even your Ad Hominem attacks are weak. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #107

Ad hominem, au contraire mistertrickster Apr 2012 #122

Je le répète, "Weak and full of fail." cleanhippie Apr 2012 #138

If it's grounded in unsugared porridge, will it be Scottish? trotsky Apr 2012 #68

You mean the same Lincoln that said this? Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #84

Whoa . . . never saw that before. Link? nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #85

I had heard them before and just did a quick google search for the actual wording Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #89

Sounds kinda bogus to me. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #91

I'm not putting any money on their authenticity Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #92

Sorry, but I disagree with your contention that the US is a Christian nation, MadHound Apr 2012 #57

Some of them were deist, some of them were Christian mistertrickster Apr 2012 #62

More complicated than you think MadHound Apr 2012 #63

You might be right. I know he condemned Christianity brutally. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #76

I would be interested in any citation you have that he was a traditional Christian grantcart Apr 2012 #96

You probably won't find evidence for it on an atheist site. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #97

lol no but what does the site reference have to do with anything? grantcart Apr 2012 #113

I'm a christian, too. However, I would say this in response. Zalatix Apr 2012 #59

I think anyone who uses their beliefs Cairycat Apr 2012 #65

Guess I can't count on your vote, then. BiggJawn Apr 2012 #69

but some Christians think we should I handle snakes and others picket funerals. Kablooie Apr 2012 #70

No one has the right to decide for another. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #90

Well done, SmileyRose. cbayer Apr 2012 #73

This country was "not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." PassingFair Apr 2012 #103

This Atheist loves Christians like you Taverner Apr 2012 #106

Thank you for that message of respect. Back at you, nt. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #123

BTW...I don't think you really want religion in politics Taverner Apr 2012 #139

I am an atheist, and I have to say that affects my politics, too.... mike_c Apr 2012 #109

Oh great, a "left" theocrat is just as bad as a "right" theocrat... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #111

Wow, there's so much straw in that straw man, mistertrickster Apr 2012 #124

Then what was the point of calling it, multiple times, a "Christian Nation"? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #125

Most of the Founding Fathers were at least nominally Christian jcboon Apr 2012 #134

In one of the few references to religion during the constitutional convention... bhikkhu Apr 2012 #135

Respectfully I don't think it does. Kablooie Apr 2012 #136