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... gateley Apr 2012 #1
Thanks Gateley. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #12
Mine too. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #49
I'm so sorry for your loss. And yes, there needs to be some CurtEastPoint Apr 2012 #2
Thank you for getting my point within the rambling rant. nt Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #13
When there are too many laws the first casualty is good old fashioned American common sense bluestateguy Apr 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #16
This made me cry lunatica Apr 2012 #4
Lunatica - thank you for getting this. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #17
Fuck, indeed. elleng Apr 2012 #5
Elleng, I don't recall. I give HIPAA much credit Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #18
Thanks, Ruby. elleng Apr 2012 #20
Once an attorney, always an attorney. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #38
i am sorry for your loss nt bart95 Apr 2012 #6
Thank you. nt Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #19
I'm very sorry for your loss REP Apr 2012 #7
REP, honestly, I am not grieving. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author REP Apr 2012 #23
Medical guardianship (not medical power of attorney) REP Apr 2012 #27
Thats my girl. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #39
get a lawyer. there are remedies. they are not easy. I am doing it right now in my family. robinlynne Apr 2012 #87
Thank you. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #92
My sister and I had to do it. Mimosa Apr 2012 #146
Ruby, I am so very sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you and your family. Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #8
Thank you Gary. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #22
Thank you for sharing this story. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #9
Thanks BtA Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #25
Ruby you already know where I stand with you. William769 Apr 2012 #10
Thanks you Bill Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #26
The only thing you can do is try to get older loved ones to sign a waiver authorizing you to have MADem Apr 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #28
It seems to me that maybe the doctors might be clueless. LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #74
I think she is mistaken about having POA. The doctors have to abide by the law. If she has POA, she robinlynne Apr 2012 #90
doesn't sound like you have power of attorney then. Have you read your documents carefully? robinlynne Apr 2012 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #94
Then she DOES NOT HAVE POA. She will have POA in the future IF your grandma is deemed incapacitated. robinlynne Apr 2012 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #107
start with the alzheimers associaiton. Read verything on tehir webiste. robinlynne Apr 2012 #110
sorry for all the typos. robinlynne Apr 2012 #111
LOL! I read you just fine. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #114
the first interviews with the attorney re generally free. robinlynne Apr 2012 #116
Have you tried going to court and getting guardianship or something on those lines? MADem Apr 2012 #127
Nothing has been tried along those lines Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #128
Pace yourself, and try to stay calm. I know, easier said than done. MADem Apr 2012 #130
Actually, getting all of this off my chest with you all Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #133
Well, that's a small bright spot in a bucket of misery, I guess. Get enough sleep, too, though. MADem Apr 2012 #134
Actually you dont need any medical records. You need an elder attorney. robinlynne Apr 2012 #88
I am sorry for your loss nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #14
Thanks Nadin. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #29
I'm so sorry. :( That's so sad. joshcryer Apr 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #31
Thats just awful Marrah_G Apr 2012 #24
Well, here is one from my family for offering. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #32
This happened in an assisted living facility? with people supposedly watching, taking care of them? robinlynne Apr 2012 #91
They didn't know until the 2nd hospital trip (of 3) Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #97
In assisted living the meals are watched by the staff. Sounds like you mean independent living? robinlynne Apr 2012 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #101
the point is, she is in the wrong kind of place. This does not happen in assisted living (theoretic robinlynne Apr 2012 #108
Damn, those "unintended consequences"! WillowTree Apr 2012 #30
Thank you, WillowTree. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #33
Oh Ruby, I'm so sorry. ornotna Apr 2012 #34
Your response helps loads. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #44
System Dupe Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #44
System Dupe Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #44
Yes, HIPAA can be a real problem when a family member is mentally ill. pnwmom Apr 2012 #35
Thank you for this. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #41
Your feelings are completely understandable, after what you and your family pnwmom Apr 2012 #57
Oh, dear Ruby, I don't know what to say....Please accept my deepest sympathies for your grandpa Ecumenist Apr 2012 #36
Sweet sister, Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #42
Ruby I'm so sorry for your loss *hugs* steve2470 Apr 2012 #37
Thank you, Steve. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #43
all I can suggest is reading the law from cover to cover and getting a good lawyer steve2470 Apr 2012 #72
Thanks. We are dealing with this now also. glinda Apr 2012 #109
As suggested to me above as well, I am going to Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #115
The right to privacy and independance in medical cases has become an excuse by health authorities to Monk06 Apr 2012 #40
Thank you for pointing this out. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #51
but if they were in an assisted living facility and a man starved to death, isn't that criminal? robinlynne Apr 2012 #93
They eat in public if they go to the dining hall. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #99
It is not assisted living then. It is independent living. if they can eat at home. robinlynne Apr 2012 #103
sounds like your Grandma needds assisted living and is in the worng place, if she made decisions robinlynne Apr 2012 #104
I am just sick that no one had any idea this was happening. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #112
That I understand. completely. robinlynne Apr 2012 #113
He may not have spoken up Alcibiades Apr 2012 #121
The point is at least in Canada people who are mentally ill cannot be committed to mandatory Monk06 Apr 2012 #143
I'm so sorry, Ruby. pacalo Apr 2012 #44
Sister - there are so many 'goods' and 'bads' about this law Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author pacalo Apr 2012 #44
That is awful. My sincerest condolensces. We just had a major debate about HIPAA here. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #50
I strongly have to say that hippa has nothing to do with this family's situation. nothing at all. robinlynne Apr 2012 #117
I am so sorry. He didn't deserve this. There is no way to express how badly I feel for you and him. roguevalley Apr 2012 #52
Thanks for sharing your story, Ruby. kag Apr 2012 #53
I am very sorry about your loss LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #54
((((Ruby)))) LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #55
Aw Ruby. Your poor grandfather. uppityperson Apr 2012 #56
i'm sorry for your loss. barbtries Apr 2012 #59
Oh, Ruby, that is just heartbreaking. Morning Dew Apr 2012 #60
Really sad malaise Apr 2012 #61
Wow, what a horrible situation. Zalatix Apr 2012 #62
I am sorry for this unnecessary loss. ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #63
I am so sorry for your loss. Ilsa Apr 2012 #64
That infuriates me. YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #65
Just awful. I'm so sorry. ((hug)) MerryBlooms Apr 2012 #66
my dad made my two sisters his health proxy. ejpoeta Apr 2012 #67
I understand your pain and frustration susanr516 Apr 2012 #68
I can definitely appreciate what you are dealing with. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #78
Ruby, I am so, so sorry. polly7 Apr 2012 #69
The system doesn't function. ellisonz Apr 2012 #70
This is so sad to hear Generic Other Apr 2012 #71
how unimaginably sad renate Apr 2012 #73
kick for evening crowd nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #75
I am sorry for your loss, but I think elder abuse/neglect trumps HIPAA elias7 Apr 2012 #76
He was - but only overnight all 3 times. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #79
Self-delete Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #80
Thanks, Ruby, I understand better now elias7 Apr 2012 #120
You just posted a ray of hope for me. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #122
I agree with every word of your post Number23 Apr 2012 #83
I have not spoken to her. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #86
I almost have sympathy for her as well. She is obviously quite ill Number23 Apr 2012 #135
me too. hippa is not the issue. If there is elder abuse you bring it to a judge to investigate. robinlynne Apr 2012 #95
Ruby this breaks my heart proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #77
Ruby, I'm very sorry for your loss... one_voice Apr 2012 #81
Thanks for all of he well wishes and vibes, everyone. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #82
How sad. But any expert you consulted to "treat" grandma COULD have gotten Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #84
Tried almost 15 years ago. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #85
Ruby, I really dont think you need past medical history to prove there is a current problem. robinlynne Apr 2012 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #105
the past is over. you can act now. Your fmaily needs to hire an elder attorney. and get your grandma robinlynne Apr 2012 #106
This problem with treating the mentally ill predates HIPAA by decades. yardwork Apr 2012 #137
Okay, there's something odd about that. That dr. could lose her license for destroying Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #139
Would it make a difference in what you just said Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #140
You have my sympathy...and my admiration. Cerridwen Apr 2012 #96
Thank you. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #118
I am so sorry for your loss, Ruby. yardwork Apr 2012 #119
That was my mistake, Yardie. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #123
But the question remains just why on earth did the hospital release him? azurnoir Apr 2012 #124
Thank you Az. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #125
It sounds like a lot of things went wrong - a perfect storm. yardwork Apr 2012 #136
Thats pretty much it, right there in a nutshell. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #142
I suspect that the retirement community and hospital may be citing HIPAA to cover themselves. yardwork Apr 2012 #148
I'm so sorry. Terra Alta Apr 2012 #126
Very sorry for your loss, but I'm confused frazzled Apr 2012 #129
When she moved out of her original state of residence 20 years ago Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #132
:( :::::: WillyT Apr 2012 #131
ruby and your mom irisblue Apr 2012 #138
Thanks. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #141
Ah, Ruby -- my heart aches for you. Amaril Apr 2012 #144
In case this happens to anybody else... Mimosa Apr 2012 #145
I'm so sorry for your grandfather's experience RainDog Apr 2012 #147
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