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(11,065 posts)That's why she's doubting herself. If it ever happens to you, you will also likely doubt yourself and wonder what it was that YOU did wrong for such a thing to happen. Is it any wonder that women have these feelings when all their lives society has conditioned women to not dress a certain way or act a certain way or be in a certain area or place at a certain time or whatever because they may get raped when all of that puts the blame on the VICTIMS of a disgusting CRIME for what happened to them? Why is it that society tells women THEY need to do this, that or the other or not to do this, that or the other in order to not be a victim of a disgusting crime instead of telling MEN not to assume that because they've had sex with someone before forever after if they come into contact with them they have a right to their body, that if a women does not or cannot give consent they don't have any rights to their body, that just because there's a "vagina with a life support system" in the room they don't get any rights to it without EXPLICIT consent?
Right here in this thread there is victim blaming going on... you shouldn't have gotten drunk, you shouldn't have fallen asleep, you shouldn't have stayed the night, you shouldn't have trusted your FRIEND not to rape you. In other words even right here on DU where we're supposed to be enlightened and intelligent there is STILL that same societal garbage that women are nothing more than a life support system for a vagina that's fair game for any man that wants to use it for their own gratification as long as there's any situation where the VICTIM wasn't sufficiently protecting herself and viewing every man she comes into contact with as a potential rapist under all circumstances.
The dude is a rapist pig and guaranteed he's done this before and truly believes he's ENTITLED to any vagina that he comes into contact with, and it's every WOMAN'S responsibility to stop him. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. No man tries to put his dick into an unconscious woman because he believes she wants to have sex with him. The very idea is ludicrous. He does it PRECISELY because HE wants to have sex and already KNOWS that if she was conscious and sober if he initiated sex she'd stop him and he either wouldn't get it or he'd have to cross the line into physical force in order to get it. Society has taught BOTH men and women that sex is only rape when physical force is used. Society has also taught men that sex is strictly for their OWN sexual gratification to the point where they think it's NORMAL and APPROPRIATE to even WANT to have sex with someone that is unresponsive. WHY on earth is it that any man would even want to have sex with someone that was INCAPABLE of being physically involved other than just being physically THERE. I will never understand that, but that's exactly what society has taught men - woman are vaginas with a life support system, and sex is just as gratifying when the victim is just lying there uninvolved and not even knowing what's happening as otherwise.
Is it any wonder that women become doubtful and wonder what it is that THEY did that caused them to be raped and not report the crime and that the legal system and the juries in the box (if it even GETS that far) have ALL been conditioned by society that it's somehow got to be the woman's fault or she had to be at least partially at fault just because she has a vagina and was in the presence of a man?