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hunter

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11. You can find plenty of rot and bullshit in science, no problem.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 08:06 PM
Aug 2014

But generally there's less rot and bullshit in science than other human endeavors, especially compared to banking, the military, and politics.

I wouldn't work for Monsanto. Nope. And I avoid their products. I don't use pesticides in my own home and garden, I watch what I eat too. I think corn grown for animal feed or ethanol is a blight on the landscape.

There's a lot of rot in the pharmaceutical corporations too, pushing expensive drugs that are more dangerous and less effective than inexpensive alternatives. They are also notorious for misplacing research that reflects poorly on a profitable product. I'd like to see generous federal funding of pharmaceutical research, with the results of that research released to the public domain, worldwide, in direct and aggressive competition with the for-profit pharmaceutical industry as it now exists. These corporations spend more on advertising and political favors than they do on actual research, and there research is directed toward profit, not what is best for the public health or the most wretched but rarer diseases.

On the other hand, I take multiple prescription pharmaceuticals daily. I keep up to date on my vaccines too. I got a bad roll of the dice with asthma, allergies, and arthritis. Without meds my mind is not all that dependable either. But maybe that's from eating and drinking and breathing all that "scientific" crap of the fifties and sixties, things like leaded gasoline, plastic additives, polychlorinated biphenyl, and the residues of pesticides that are no longer used.



I'm indifferent to manned space exploration or nuclear power. I don't believe either will "save" the human race. Others may disagree.

Unmanned space exploration is awesome science.

Science in all domains, whether it seems "impractical" at the moment or not, ought to be well funded. Nobody can predict where tomorrow's magic will come from.


True dat. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #1
Huge K&R...nt SidDithers Aug 2014 #2
broad brush KT2000 Aug 2014 #3
Which group of people are you describing in your first paragraph? Avalux Aug 2014 #4
Inability to separate science and ethics/economics is a huge problem on the left. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #5
For most it is just about assurances. Notafraidtoo Aug 2014 #8
when you're right, you're right wyldwolf Aug 2014 #6
i have posted links to this article multiple times (it is from 2012) etherealtruth Aug 2014 #7
Yeah. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #9
Food science is also bad because of "chemicals". (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #10
You can find plenty of rot and bullshit in science, no problem. hunter Aug 2014 #11
So true. So sad. And so pathetic. nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #12
So, do I hate food science... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #13
Make a choice about whether or not the science is valid, just as the science is valid for ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #14
Sorry, I meant to have the choice... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #15
I don't think you do. But people who lie and distort as a fear tactic..absolutely! FrodosPet Aug 2014 #21
So you agree with the Koch brothers? BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #23
Glad to hear it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #27
And for others there aren't. SomethingFishy Aug 2014 #16
It is frustrating seeing certain people who call themselves Progressive... FrodosPet Aug 2014 #18
Straw? Man. BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #17
Some people here seem to think that "science" means "strawmen". Deepak Chopra also claims to be just Chathamization Aug 2014 #19
Bullshit. LWolf Aug 2014 #20
This. redqueen Aug 2014 #22
The U.S. Bans GMOs, Bee-Killing Pesticides in All Wildlife Refuges Zorra Aug 2014 #24
I don't get this post ClarkeVII Aug 2014 #25
Seems to be in the Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #28
Are you confusing science with technology and business practices? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #26
Are we not confusing science with corporations here? sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #29
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