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106. also, divisions between northern and southern italians

Reply to eridani (Reply #98)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:24 PM

Apr 2012

my italian-born creative writing professor called that racism.

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Prejudice against whites is not the same as prejudice against blacks [View all] CreekDog Apr 2012 OP

I'm not buying it... OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #1

I didn't say you should accept either one CreekDog Apr 2012 #6

That's not what the OP is saying obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #10

Plan on leaving the planet? Because unless you're another species of sentient hominid, Ecumenist Apr 2012 #11

The difference is THEY WILL STOP YOU or THEY CAN'T STOP YOU saras Apr 2012 #134

What??? OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #136

Thre is a fundamental difference between racism and prejudice malaise Apr 2012 #2

GREAT explanation ! uponit7771 Apr 2012 #5

you're just as dead if you're killed by a prejudiced individual as killed by a racist. provis99 Apr 2012 #36

yeah but if you're black Fox News will report that you deserved it CreekDog Apr 2012 #44

True but until we remove the institutional racism malaise Apr 2012 #50

Or if by accident, no? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #81

Exactly. OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #89

You can be a racist without denying anyone anything Major Nikon Apr 2012 #132

No it does not - that is prejudice malaise Apr 2012 #135

I thought when racism spred institutionally, it was called Institutional Racism. hughee99 Apr 2012 #142

Excellent OP! obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #3

oh great, so now its ok to be prejudice or racist, as long as it quinnox Apr 2012 #4

My OP said prejudice is wrong. CreekDog Apr 2012 #7

The OP said nothing like that obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #13

Can you read? THAT IS NOT WHAT WHAT THE OP SAID...AT.ALL!!! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #15

maybe being bombarded by threads saying essentially how terrible white people and white men are quinnox Apr 2012 #20

You need to go back and read the post carefully because that IS NOT WHAT WAS SAID NOR Ecumenist Apr 2012 #21

i made it clear that both are wrong, but there is an additional injury when one's experience CreekDog Apr 2012 #24

No, the OP is not saying any of that obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #26

oh hell, I'm going to back out of this thread quinnox Apr 2012 #29

Many of the posts (I think we're both talking about the same ones) weren't declaring JonLP24 Apr 2012 #52

"Can you read?" "What is wrong with you?" Number23 Apr 2012 #125

Nothing new. Where have you been? nt Skip Intro Apr 2012 #67

i don't think i could convince someone who defended Ron Paul's newsletters as not being his views CreekDog Apr 2012 #74

Veering off topic and misrepresenting my views do little to help your case. Skip Intro Apr 2012 #95

the reason your statements saying Paul isn't racist are relevant CreekDog Apr 2012 #111

Dude, do you have me confused with someone else? WTF are you talking about? Skip Intro Apr 2012 #114

If i'm wrong i'll apologize here CreekDog Apr 2012 #117

Im back to confirm that you used the term "race card" several times in reference to Obama CreekDog Apr 2012 #124

Oh man. This is surreal. Skip Intro Apr 2012 #128

You said it was bs when i pointed out you used the term CreekDog Apr 2012 #129

Dude, look, you are just spouting bs. I'll prove it - Skip Intro Apr 2012 #130

Three Days, No Links, proves you full of it, yes? Skip Intro Apr 2012 #139

they are easy to find, go find them, look at 2008 in particular CreekDog Apr 2012 #140

Lordy. Post 143. nt Skip Intro Apr 2012 #144

Skip Intro: "Oh give the fucking race card a rest, will you?..." CreekDog Apr 2012 #141

Lol - CreekDog, are you on drugs? Skip Intro Apr 2012 #143

Oh poor me! mactime Apr 2012 #8

Creekdog is a white, straight male obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #14

i did say they are wrong, are people not reading my post? CreekDog Apr 2012 #16

CreekDog, I understood what you were trying to say and most of the poster did. Some, however Ecumenist Apr 2012 #22

I'm actually a bit surprised with the viciousness and ferocity by apparent progressives CreekDog Apr 2012 #27

Exactly, The latent bigots are surfacing in the wake of Trayvon's murder and as far as posting..... Ecumenist Apr 2012 #30

Out of left field? Mariana Apr 2012 #61

Yes, I do know what you mean. It's just sad but I suppose, it's better that "they" are unmasked so Ecumenist Apr 2012 #65

society itself, the institutions that comprise our society mzteris Apr 2012 #9

No, they don't want to gaspee Apr 2012 #17

exactly. mzteris Apr 2012 #94

Yep. White, straight, Christian males... OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #33

"They ain't nevah gonna get it." Number23 Apr 2012 #127

oh good lord - mzteris Apr 2012 #138

I don't knowwhy you bother. gaspee Apr 2012 #12

good point about hatred against the oppressor not being the same CreekDog Apr 2012 #47

There is no acceptable form of bias or prejudice TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #18

Well said mactime Apr 2012 #40

if a thousand people are doing something wrong isn't it worse than if one person is? CreekDog Apr 2012 #45

The frequency with which something is done doesn't make it better or worse TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #46

then why do we study the Holocaust? CreekDog Apr 2012 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author bart95 Apr 2012 #57

I don't study the holocaust. And don't attempt to link your argument to the noble cause of ... TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #58

No, you are misreading. EFerrari Apr 2012 #59

He said some discrimination isn't the same as other discrimination TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #63

It isn't and that's so self evident EFerrari Apr 2012 #64

Don't get smarmy TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #66

I explained what made them different, but I also said that both were wrong CreekDog Apr 2012 #80

LOL. I didn't overlook anything. EFerrari Apr 2012 #108

You didn't overlook anything except the obvious part TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #109

i would argue, except that i think you made my point CreekDog Apr 2012 #71

Not in any version of reality, but ok. nt TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #83

I explain to you what I said 100 times and you are telling me what I really said? CreekDog Apr 2012 #84

In all seriousness, do you have a problem with reading comprehension? TeamsterDem Apr 2012 #87

Lol. Interesting coming from you, CD. Skip Intro Apr 2012 #145

Racism = prejudice + power KamaAina Apr 2012 #19

GMTA...i just post the exact same thing noiretextatique Apr 2012 #105

Don't try selling me that bulls**t meow2u3 Apr 2012 #23

Yeah, except your neighborhood would not have existed were it not for... joshcryer Apr 2012 #28

I don't know what OP you're responding to, because I don't approve of what happened to you CreekDog Apr 2012 #31

Gosh, I'm really sorry that happened Meow. You're right, hatred is hatred. Your life is priceless Ecumenist Apr 2012 #34

One can be the victim of a hate crime and also the beneficiary of institutional racism. Gormy Cuss Apr 2012 #37

You people are forgetting your grains of salt. Just saying. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #110

You people? Gormy Cuss Apr 2012 #121

Thanks for saying this. redqueen Apr 2012 #25

Soooo.... It all depends on who the target is, as to how atrocious it is. Gotcha. Zalatix Apr 2012 #32

Agree with you 100%. n/t DLevine Apr 2012 #35

prejudice against any individual is prejudicial. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #38

This white guy follows you ... I have 3 examples from my own life. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #39

thanks for that. CreekDog Apr 2012 #42

Yup ... makes sense to me. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #68

JoePhilly, my grandfather told me MANY stories of having to deal with "sun Down" laws, if you know Ecumenist Apr 2012 #69

my grandmother moved to Vero Beach, Florida in 1980 said older black men would step off the sidewalk CreekDog Apr 2012 #79

Yep. so true, CreekDog. So very true. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #88

k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #41

I live in a world where what you've written is understood by people capable of rationale thought jp11 Apr 2012 #43

No kidding. n/t EFerrari Apr 2012 #62

"her health care needs were viewed differently because she was a woman" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #49

how much healthcare did your dad require to have you born? CreekDog Apr 2012 #51

Is higher car insurance rates for young men "discrimination"? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #53

yes and illegal in my state CreekDog Apr 2012 #54

Then I hope you're happy to bear those extra costs. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #55

Am I really arguing with the guy offended that women live longer than men? CreekDog Apr 2012 #78

I dunno. Your words suggest that you're arguing with someone else. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #91

Then you support different prices for health ins based on race CreekDog Apr 2012 #122

Fuck any and ALL health care ratings eridani Apr 2012 #100

How do you feel that a DUer is advocating charging women more? CreekDog Apr 2012 #126

Unfortunately, plenty of DUers seem to be fine with age rating eridani Apr 2012 #133

"Huh? Are there people prejudiced against white guys?" Honestly, that was my gut reaction to the OP. Mister Ed Apr 2012 #56

Of course some people are prejudiced against you eridani Apr 2012 #101

K&R varelse Apr 2012 #60

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #70

"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White" fishwax Apr 2012 #75

ridiculous, isn't it? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #107

totally ridiculous -- and apparently repeated fishwax Apr 2012 #115

Clever. Except I want the government to do more for whites than you want it to do. CreekDog Apr 2012 #77

I am a white male and I agree with the OP 100% Bjorn Against Apr 2012 #72

Yea. Zax2me Apr 2012 #73

some people seem to be responding rather angrily to things you're not really saying fishwax Apr 2012 #76

I don't know how anyone could disagree with you. Vattel Apr 2012 #82

that's a more concise way of saying the point that I was posting about CreekDog Apr 2012 #85

Precisely. What is so hard to recognize about the concept of oppression redqueen Apr 2012 #90

Prejudice doesn't come in degrees. It's wrong on the same level no matter which way it travels. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #86

or calling him a 'white hispanic', a term i had never heard before bart95 Apr 2012 #93

prejudice may not be in degrees, but the amount of prejudice a person experiences does vary CreekDog Apr 2012 #131

So, how do we determine OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #92

I guess the OP will do that. Skip Intro Apr 2012 #96

good one! OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #97

i don't think it takes rocket science to say that blacks and minorities are at a disadvantage CreekDog Apr 2012 #103

Oh, I'm not doubting that discrimination occurs now, or has occurred, OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #112

Maybe it would be easier for people to get if we leave black and white out of it eridani Apr 2012 #98

that's a good example of the point i was trying to make CreekDog Apr 2012 #102

also, divisions between northern and southern italians noiretextatique Apr 2012 #106

Spot on madokie Apr 2012 #99

prejudice + power = institutional isms noiretextatique Apr 2012 #104

So, since black people are more likely to be murdered by another black person, OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #113

have you ever considered that... CreekDog Apr 2012 #118

It's not argument, it's debate. OccupyTheIRS Apr 2012 #120

Statistics... antigone382 Apr 2012 #123

When I read your diary I thought, "and rain is wet", then I started reading the replies... Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #116

doodoo noiretextatique Apr 2012 #119

Nonsense. Prejudice is Prejudice. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #137

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