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In reply to the discussion: See the really big smiles of Campbell Brown and Plaintiffs as they sue teachers for due process. [View all]blackspade
(10,056 posts)47. Campbell Brown, Rhee, Welch, and the rest of these assholes are no better than Pinkerton thugs
This is court sponsored union busting.
This is an unbelievable statement to me and I have no idea why any competent reporter (or judge) can't see what a bald face lie it is:
Having bad teachers who cant be removed, having a rating system which makes a mockery of a legitimate rating system for teachers, these are all systematic deprivations of the right to a sound education," said attorney Jay Lefkowitz. His firm, Kirkland and Ellis, is working pro bono for a new group called the Partnership for Educational Justice founded by former TV anchor Campbell Brown. They note that more than 90 percent of the state's teachers were rated effective or highly effective in 2012 but only 31 percent of state students were proficient on their math and reading tests in 2013.
First off, what is a 'bad' teacher? And how is it that 'bad' teachers can't be 'removed?'
How is the current system a 'mockery of a legitimate rating system?'
And how do these two things alone deprive children of the right to a sound education?
The last sentence underscores the bullshit nature of this suit; 90% of teachers may be effective and still have children that fail or are only 31% proficient for a whole host of reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with teaching. Among other things I would suggest that poverty, absent parents, overworked parents, dubious testing, stupid teaching standards crafted by lobbyists, are all much more relevant to how students 'preform' in schools.
Suits like these provide air cover for the ground game that seeks to suck public money into the coffers of corporations and the 1%.
How about this for a suggestion: Administrators from the school level to the head of a district be held liable for the test scores of students. I mean if it is a systemic problem, perhaps it is the administration of the schools that are at fault.
Who did they commission for the testing? Did they choose the correct textbooks? Were the text books up to date? What about violence? Are administrators accountable for violence in the schools?
See, if this is a 'systemic' problem perhaps a look at the system is in order, not just bullshit scapegoating.
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See the really big smiles of Campbell Brown and Plaintiffs as they sue teachers for due process. [View all]
madfloridian
Jul 2014
OP
NY has always had a reputation for good schools...until the reformers came along.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#10
Using parents and kids like that....really causes more disrespect of teachers.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#11
They don't want good teachers. They want robots to "teach" children how to obey. nt
stillwaiting
Jul 2014
#32
You are right. And parading them to the public lke that is not healthy for the kids.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#17
Can you tell me which minority Plaintiff you think does not "understand" what they've done?
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#22
Oh, the Plaintiffs might very well "understand." But what they "understand" IS R-W PROPAGANDA.
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#27
Union or tenure rules do not prevent bad employees from being fired. They prevent managers from
Brickbat
Jul 2014
#25
It often takes a long time for them to concoct a case where there is none. To wit:
Smarmie Doofus
Jul 2014
#29
So, they will spend years concocting a case, but not weeks on a legitimate case?
joeglow3
Jul 2014
#77
"bad teachers who can’t be removed...." IS A TOTAL LIE. Administrators need to do their jobs, not
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#26
What a despicable woman she is. Not to mention her husband. It should not be a surprise that these
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#33
"Notice no blame is assigned to the student, no blame to the parent. Only the teacher."
navarth
Jul 2014
#38
Then your district is shirking its responsiblity..they are not telling you the truth.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#48
A teacher has the right to form a paper trail documentation on the student (and parent). The
DhhD
Jul 2014
#58
Campbell Brown, Rhee, Welch, and the rest of these assholes are no better than Pinkerton thugs
blackspade
Jul 2014
#47
Follow her twitter feed. Her attitude toward public school teachers shows.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#50
I've reached the point of saying that parents should let the 'free market' school their kids.
ancianita
Jul 2014
#53
Blaming the teachers for the problems in U.S. education is to distract from the real issues.
AdHocSolver
Jul 2014
#72
Not getting their rights for quick resolve of issue, management falling down on the job.
madfloridian
Jul 2014
#79
These kids are not going to get a better education if they're taught by temps
BuelahWitch
Aug 2014
#91