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blackspade

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47. Campbell Brown, Rhee, Welch, and the rest of these assholes are no better than Pinkerton thugs
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jul 2014

This is court sponsored union busting.

This is an unbelievable statement to me and I have no idea why any competent reporter (or judge) can't see what a bald face lie it is:

“Having bad teachers who can’t be removed, having a rating system which makes a mockery of a legitimate rating system for teachers, these are all systematic deprivations of the right to a sound education," said attorney Jay Lefkowitz. His firm, Kirkland and Ellis, is working pro bono for a new group called the Partnership for Educational Justice founded by former TV anchor Campbell Brown. They note that more than 90 percent of the state's teachers were rated effective or highly effective in 2012 but only 31 percent of state students were proficient on their math and reading tests in 2013.


First off, what is a 'bad' teacher? And how is it that 'bad' teachers can't be 'removed?'
How is the current system a 'mockery of a legitimate rating system?'
And how do these two things alone deprive children of the right to a sound education?

The last sentence underscores the bullshit nature of this suit; 90% of teachers may be effective and still have children that fail or are only 31% proficient for a whole host of reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with teaching. Among other things I would suggest that poverty, absent parents, overworked parents, dubious testing, stupid teaching standards crafted by lobbyists, are all much more relevant to how students 'preform' in schools.

Suits like these provide air cover for the ground game that seeks to suck public money into the coffers of corporations and the 1%.


How about this for a suggestion: Administrators from the school level to the head of a district be held liable for the test scores of students. I mean if it is a systemic problem, perhaps it is the administration of the schools that are at fault.
Who did they commission for the testing? Did they choose the correct textbooks? Were the text books up to date? What about violence? Are administrators accountable for violence in the schools?

See, if this is a 'systemic' problem perhaps a look at the system is in order, not just bullshit scapegoating.
race to the top nt msongs Jul 2014 #1
K&R. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2014 #2
Actually Campbell's smile is more like a smirk. madfloridian Jul 2014 #3
I'm not always this shallow. hamsterjill Jul 2014 #45
Tenure doesn't prevent ann--- Jul 2014 #4
Tenure is simply due process rights. madfloridian Jul 2014 #6
K&r... thank you for keeping DU informed of the plight of teachers. spanone Jul 2014 #5
+100 Jakes Progress Jul 2014 #73
It just infuriates me... TDale313 Jul 2014 #7
My sentiments exactly. deurbano Jul 2014 #16
They do take pride in these attacks on teachers. madfloridian Jul 2014 #24
She won't say who is funding the effort. pa28 Aug 2014 #90
I suspect you're right. n/t TDale313 Aug 2014 #94
I am a product of New York State schools. phylny Jul 2014 #8
NY has always had a reputation for good schools...until the reformers came along. madfloridian Jul 2014 #10
K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #9
Using parents and kids like that....really causes more disrespect of teachers. madfloridian Jul 2014 #11
That's right... ReRe Jul 2014 #13
Her and her husband are both useless…. usafvet65 Jul 2014 #62
Right! ReRe Jul 2014 #68
How do they expect to get & keep good teachers? emsimon33 Jul 2014 #12
They just want cheaper more temporary teachers. madfloridian Jul 2014 #14
I'll be damned if I know. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2014 #23
They don't want good teachers. They want robots to "teach" children how to obey. nt stillwaiting Jul 2014 #32
Wonder how they found those parents. Wonder how much time the parents spent LoisB Jul 2014 #15
You are right. And parading them to the public lke that is not healthy for the kids. madfloridian Jul 2014 #17
You hit the nail right on the head. Notafraidtoo Jul 2014 #18
"bad teachers who can’t be removed" is a RW myth. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #19
Children learn at different rates, on different timetables. SheilaT Jul 2014 #20
The new reforms as much as force teachers to teach kids in "lock-step". madfloridian Jul 2014 #43
The education reform movement is all about privatization greed. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #21
Can you tell me which minority Plaintiff you think does not "understand" what they've done? msanthrope Jul 2014 #22
Oh, the Plaintiffs might very well "understand." But what they "understand" IS R-W PROPAGANDA. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #27
The Koch brothers recently made JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #28
We have a fantastic thread on this in the AA group...why not join us??? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #31
Well, we know the fascists like populism. joshcryer Jul 2014 #67
Former teacher here. No agreement from me. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #74
Now we're union-bashing on DU? Really? nt TBF Aug 2014 #84
You supported SOPA/PIPA, really? joshcryer Aug 2014 #85
Where's your cite for that? TBF Aug 2014 #86
Exactly. joshcryer Aug 2014 #87
CA's racist tenure laws?? TBF Aug 2014 #88
Read the damn decision: joshcryer Aug 2014 #89
Why must someone go to the AA forum to discuss a topic - TBF Aug 2014 #92
The proposal is simple, move it to 4 years. joshcryer Aug 2014 #93
Union or tenure rules do not prevent bad employees from being fired. They prevent managers from Brickbat Jul 2014 #25
It often takes a long time for them to concoct a case where there is none. To wit: Smarmie Doofus Jul 2014 #29
I just read about that case. madfloridian Jul 2014 #39
Silver lining: his website is a *fantastic* resource.... Smarmie Doofus Jul 2014 #55
So he was actually being punished for being a financial whistleblower. madfloridian Jul 2014 #57
So, they will spend years concocting a case, but not weeks on a legitimate case? joeglow3 Jul 2014 #77
Yes, it happens that way. madfloridian Jul 2014 #81
Sorry, but I don't buy it joeglow3 Jul 2014 #82
"bad teachers who can’t be removed...." IS A TOTAL LIE. Administrators need to do their jobs, not WinkyDink Jul 2014 #26
I've been surprised at the anti-teacher rhetoric here on DU Ratty Jul 2014 #35
Thank you! WinkyDink Jul 2014 #75
Kick historylovr Jul 2014 #30
I'm afraid you are right. madfloridian Jul 2014 #40
What a despicable woman she is. Not to mention her husband. It should not be a surprise that these sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #33
The hounds of privatization can smell the money. JEB Jul 2014 #34
I'm convinced they won't stop until every union is gone TBF Aug 2014 #95
That power couple makes me sick. City Lights Jul 2014 #36
K and R geardaddy Jul 2014 #37
"Notice no blame is assigned to the student, no blame to the parent. Only the teacher." navarth Jul 2014 #38
First they consolidated schools ymetca Jul 2014 #41
...... madfloridian Jul 2014 #42
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #44
There are teachers who are not effective teachers Sienna86 Jul 2014 #46
Then your district is shirking its responsiblity..they are not telling you the truth. madfloridian Jul 2014 #48
And the district would be lying. blackspade Jul 2014 #49
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! MyOwnPeace Jul 2014 #52
A one-off doesn't make the republicans right. Jakes Progress Jul 2014 #69
I don't doubt you. Tatiana Jul 2014 #78
A teacher has the right to form a paper trail documentation on the student (and parent). The DhhD Jul 2014 #58
Tell the district to stop lying Doctor_J Jul 2014 #66
Campbell Brown, Rhee, Welch, and the rest of these assholes are no better than Pinkerton thugs blackspade Jul 2014 #47
Follow her twitter feed. Her attitude toward public school teachers shows. madfloridian Jul 2014 #50
Thank you, madfloridian. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #51
I've reached the point of saying that parents should let the 'free market' school their kids. ancianita Jul 2014 #53
K&R.... daleanime Jul 2014 #54
K & R Lifelong Protester Jul 2014 #56
The disgusting right have fooled the idiots of the left Jakes Progress Jul 2014 #59
Tenure is the icing on a mediocre cupcake SoCalDem Jul 2014 #60
Well said. Higher wages play a huge part in this. madfloridian Jul 2014 #63
Recommended! (#101) H2O Man Jul 2014 #61
.... madfloridian Jul 2014 #64
just another scam to give tax money to billionaires Doctor_J Jul 2014 #65
She is absolutely beaming! Why is Wall Street on the Potomac. Octafish Jul 2014 #70
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #71
Blaming the teachers for the problems in U.S. education is to distract from the real issues. AdHocSolver Jul 2014 #72
What about these teachers? joeglow3 Jul 2014 #76
Not getting their rights for quick resolve of issue, management falling down on the job. madfloridian Jul 2014 #79
DURec leftstreet Jul 2014 #80
Rec. Thanks for shedding more light on these crooked privateers Mc Mike Aug 2014 #83
These kids are not going to get a better education if they're taught by temps BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #91
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