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In reply to the discussion: California 80-year-old satisfied after gunning down fleeing pregnant home intruder [View all]Rex
(65,616 posts)155. Your hurt, you are pissed and armed and now have a wide open field
to shoot one of your assailants in the back and kill her. Would you? I know you don't give a fuck, but this is not your average day either.
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phantom power
Jul 2014
OP
Blame the Victim article. FFS, Breaking into a private home is going to bring consequences.
NYC_SKP
Jul 2014
#296
a fleeing old-man-beating criminal home burglary team with blood on their hands.
NYC_SKP
Jul 2014
#325
I would have felt the same way until I was the victim of a threatening group....
NYC_SKP
Jul 2014
#315
Well I don't consider myself old and I still can't believe some of these posts on DU.
Laffy Kat
Jul 2014
#54
Yeah, they swarm on stuff like this faster than cockroaches flee the light. nt
valerief
Jul 2014
#202
Nah...looking at the posters happy about the dead mom-baby...par the course for them.
Rex
Jul 2014
#67
Tell me, then, where the laws of Arkansas say shooting someone in the back is self-defense.
moriah
Jul 2014
#294
Gun "enthusiasts" know all the laws that allow them to shoot people, even in the back.
Hoyt
Jul 2014
#128
And the "students" are most interested in when they can shoot, that's why they are into
Hoyt
Jul 2014
#191
"Few" is relative. Gun lovers think thousands is few. I don't. And, howsabout intimidation
Hoyt
Jul 2014
#359
You just don't get it. Every gun owner contributes to the problem by keeping gun manufacturers, gun
Hoyt
Jul 2014
#361
Someone fleeing from you is an imminent threat? Someone running away is a threat?
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#273
You are excused. This is a forum where people jump in all the time. If you want a private conversati
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#275
In the heat of the moment, it can be difficult to tell what is going on. For me, I would
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#284
Roguevalley -- has it been independently confirmed that she was in fact visibly pregnant?
Hekate
Jul 2014
#70
He thought she was pregnant yet still shot her as she fled. He shot and killed a woman he thought
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#142
Turns out she LIED. Imagine someone breaking an old man's bones, stealing from him....
Hekate
Jul 2014
#322
It's not...it is out and out murdering someone that you now have a tactical advantage over.
Rex
Jul 2014
#75
That might have been difficult due to the severe injury they inflicted on him. nt
Hekate
Jul 2014
#82
"a severe shoulder and collarbone injury", yet he could still hold and fire a gun. Twice. nt
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#146
his shoulder and collar bone were seriously injured when they threw him to the ground
magical thyme
Jul 2014
#44
This couple is not Trayvon Martin. The old man did not go "on patrol" seeking trouble.
Hekate
Jul 2014
#27
"...do they then get to jeer at you 'Ollie ollie oxen free free free'" - Yes.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2014
#29
People here should watch the interview at the link. He really is frail, bent and wobbly
Hekate
Jul 2014
#36
apparently he was supposed to let them get away, so they could return another time
magical thyme
Jul 2014
#68
I ask again: As a thief and abuser of the elderly, might she also not be a liar?
Hekate
Jul 2014
#86
"80 year olds get to be targets and victims"? Not at all. They don't get to shoot people in the back
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#150
Well, bully for you. When you get to be that age and have brittle bones, you just try it okay?
Hekate
Jul 2014
#74
Most old people you know probably have not had the experience this old man just had, either. nt
Hekate
Jul 2014
#79
If any of the criminal supporters in this thread had ever gone through such a thing...
NYC_SKP
Jul 2014
#299
Sadly this is what the gun group is like and they seem to have escaped the gungeon.
Rex
Jul 2014
#96
Never said that, did I? Just pointed out there was not a shred of evidence presented yesterday....
Hekate
Jul 2014
#326
I doubt they could get him on first-degree, but it should be manslaughter anyway.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#144
I think if the person is running away and you are no longer fearing for your life....its murder.
Marrah_G
Jul 2014
#33
I would still be fearing for my life, had I been beaten like that. Thus, it's self defense.
NYC_SKP
Jul 2014
#337
Basically they're just condemning the old man to grievous bodily harm and general victimhood
Hekate
Jul 2014
#88
Most of us see a difference between defending yourself and shooting someone in the back while they
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#158
"running away and no longer a threat" is an odd presumption to make during a violent confrontation
cbdo2007
Jul 2014
#216
Lol at thinking someone shooting a person running away in the back isn't a "threat".
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#246
What would the response be if they'd beaten the old man not to injury, but to death?
freshwest
Jul 2014
#196
Please give a link to 1 DUer who is defending the burglars. Let's see 1. I'll check back in a bit,
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#156
Amen, TrueBlueGreen. If they were in the alley and running away, there's no reason
Ecumenist
Jul 2014
#104
Let's see, he gunned down a home invader's pregnant girlfriend while she was running away
Warpy
Jul 2014
#57
I don't think she's a "home invader's pregnant girlfriend", I think she's a "home invader".
hughee99
Jul 2014
#153
Glee? You think all of us are gungeoneers just because an injured old man pursued his assailants...
Hekate
Jul 2014
#108
Well goddamn Rex, I guess after all these years and posts I'm just pixels on a screen
Hekate
Jul 2014
#163
They might argue that you lack empathy for the guy who had just been assaulted
mythology
Jul 2014
#194
Do you believe a man should be charged if he poisons his wife/gf to force a miscarriage? n/m
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#175
I see the killing of a fetus as a removal of a woman's choice, if she indeed wanted that child
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#180
That threat will always exist as long as people keep electing anti-choice politicians
BklnDem75
Jul 2014
#316
The news story is heavily biased in favor of the criminals, and painting a scared old man as evil
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#101
I'm a gun control advocate but the flamefest here against an injured old man is vomit-inducing
Hekate
Jul 2014
#102
I too am pro-gun control and think the old man was dead had they taken his gun in the struggle
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#106
The story would not even have been written had he showed mercy n/m
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#110
I posted my reasons why this story hits home for me in #106 and my empathy level is maxed out
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#127
Had they taken the gun off him, they would have blown his head off
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#112
You're a guy having one of his "I'm better than the average gungeoneer" chest beating sessions
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jul 2014
#147
He pulled a gun and they ran away. Why did he then have to shoot her in the back, again?
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#160
Third time they robbed him too, he says he keeps 15-20K cash in his safe and moved the key
snooper2
Jul 2014
#219
It's amazing, isn't it? Shitty journalism and really disturbing support for the criminals.
NYC_SKP
Jul 2014
#298
Had he shot them while being attacked in his home, I wouldn't thnk twice about it.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#159
If she was concerned about the fetus she should have not been robbing people
Travis_0004
Jul 2014
#220
He must have gotten up and chased her, they ended up in a back alley behind the house.
Rex
Jul 2014
#225
yeah, he is going to jail, can't really shoot somebody in the back as they are running away
snooper2
Jul 2014
#243
He shot one burglar to intimidate the other. A dead human is nothing but a tool to him.
riqster
Jul 2014
#233
How about not breaking into other peoples homes....the logic here is astounding. nt
clarice
Jul 2014
#253
If they hadn't broken into the man's house and pushed him around........ !!!!!!!
clarice
Jul 2014
#349
I just saw a story on aol that the male accomplice will be charged with murder
senseandsensibility
Jul 2014
#250
Horrible story......why did those two go into the man's house to begin with?nt
clarice
Jul 2014
#252
Well, we'll see what he says when he finds his ass in court, and possibly prison.
AngryOldDem
Jul 2014
#286
SHE WAS NOT PREGNANT. All those who thought a thief & elder-abuser would never lie for sympathy...
Hekate
Jul 2014
#307
It shocks me how many people think that a woman's life only has value if she's pregnant
A Little Weird
Jul 2014
#327