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35. That 's the problem with conquest

Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:24 PM

Jul 2014

The losers aren't always willing to submit. Do you think the defeat of the Cherokee gives you a claim on reservation land in Oklahoma? Could you bulldoze an orchard and blow up a stock tank and drive a family from their home, as is happening today in the West Bank? The Jewish claims to Palestine are based on 2500 year old writings of dubious reliability, but Palestinians are supposed to forget all about what's happened to them in the last 60 years? That ain't happening either.

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Letter from Gaza by a Norwegian doctor, "this,THIS cannot continue." [View all] G_j Jul 2014 OP

... hlthe2b Jul 2014 #1

But to certain people it will always be the fault intaglio Jul 2014 #2

Do you consider Hamas leadership to be 'the oppressed?' appal_jack Jul 2014 #6

Hamas was elected fair and square by the people of Gaza Larkspur Jul 2014 #8

No they weren't Mosby Jul 2014 #18

Excellent point. nt appal_jack Jul 2014 #71

Sorry, but you have lost the propaganda war, drowned in the rivers of blood of innocents. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #9

Getting your own civilians killed does not confer moral high ground. appal_jack Jul 2014 #11

Larger Context? Squeezed and starved and controlled. How does that fit in to your picture? vanlassie Jul 2014 #13

Math don't lie, and of course a nation can do all kinds of things that a militia in a prison can not Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #14

"telegenically dead children"--he is a sociopath renate Jul 2014 #59

The moral failure lies in the theft of Palestine from the Arabs pscot Jul 2014 #19

Well, I can see where you're coming from. appal_jack Jul 2014 #25

Palestine was inhabited when the mandate was created in 1919 pscot Jul 2014 #31

I am recognizing historical forces. appal_jack Jul 2014 #32

are the Cherokee still captive on a reservation? G_j Jul 2014 #34

Can Natives have their land back? former9thward Jul 2014 #49

You mention the property lost by Jews in the Holocaust whathehell Jul 2014 #52

The Palestinians were allied with Hitler. former9thward Jul 2014 #53

that is absolute bullshite -and Nazi Germany did actively support the Jewish settlement in Palestine Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #58

That 's the problem with conquest pscot Jul 2014 #35

At this stage, the Talmud & the Koran are both window-dressing. appal_jack Jul 2014 #37

Ahhh, so Churchill was responsible for the deaths of Londoners in the Blitz intaglio Jul 2014 #20

This explains a lot of it: 7962 Jul 2014 #26

I found this of yours, 7962. RobertEarl Jul 2014 #43

Yes, and? I stand by my statement; no knock warrants need to go. 7962 Jul 2014 #44

Really? You don't get the dichotomy of your opinions? RobertEarl Jul 2014 #45

Actually, you're WRONG. Israel notified the people they were coming. The cops didnt. 7962 Jul 2014 #46

Of course they did RobertEarl Jul 2014 #48

IDF announces beforehand SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #54

I heard that they tell you RobertEarl Jul 2014 #61

The same was done to Lebanon. delrem Jul 2014 #41

The people from whom Hamas draw their membership are oppressed intaglio Jul 2014 #22

All Hamas has to do is stop firing rockets SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #55

All Israel has to do is to follow UN res 194 intaglio Jul 2014 #63

What is Israel's best weapon against Hamas? Avalux Jul 2014 #28

+1000 G_j Jul 2014 #33

+ Infinity, you nailed it, Avalux. n/t Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #60

Just stop, PLEASE! This horror requires all decent people to stop trying to turn us away sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #67

Heartbreaking, gut-wrenching savagery democrank Jul 2014 #3

K & R malaise Jul 2014 #4

Lots of tears. broiles Jul 2014 #24

"the orchestra of the Israeli war-machine starts its gruesome symphony again," Divernan Jul 2014 #5

Palestinian trail of tears... Rivers of Blood Years of Darkeness Billy Budd Jul 2014 #7

The author lost me when he asked if our President has a heart. Trust Buster Jul 2014 #10

I think we already know the answer to that G_j Jul 2014 #12

Why didn't he write a letter to the leaders of Hamas? hack89 Jul 2014 #15

We aren't claiming certainty about who shot down flight 17 even with overwhelming evidence yet we kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #16

Hamas released a statement celebrating the kidnapping. former9thward Jul 2014 #50

At first I felt that Hamas brought all of this on the Palestinian people MohRokTah Jul 2014 #17

Sadly, innocents die SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #56

I hope Kerry can work a miracle. This cannot continue. nt riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #21

If Hamas terrorists can keep the airport closed to international travel Mosby Jul 2014 #23

Israelis are getting a small taste of what it's like to be a Gazan. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #30

K&R NealK Jul 2014 #27

I did not see where he suggested Hamas stop firing rockets into Israel seveneyes Jul 2014 #29

Just because Hamas fires rockets into Israel justiceischeap Jul 2014 #36

Difference is Israel isnt targeting innocents SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #57

So those 4 kids that died on the beach in Gaza justiceischeap Jul 2014 #64

When you target a heavily civilian populated area you are targeting civilians, period. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #70

Hamas makes sure their targets SnakeEyes Jul 2014 #72

Hamas fired no rockets for 19 months, so stop trying to use that old excuse, no one is buying it sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #73

Not true. they were fired SnakeEyes Aug 2014 #74

The same doctor Gilbert that said 9-11 was justified? seveneyes Jul 2014 #38

But there's a common fallacy here... defacto7 Jul 2014 #40

the doctor is recounting his first hand experience G_j Jul 2014 #65

Yes, that's what I'm saying. defacto7 Jul 2014 #66

Oh yes G_j Jul 2014 #68

A-OK defacto7 Jul 2014 #69

I know there are a few.... defacto7 Jul 2014 #39

Kicking for the heroes. countryjake Jul 2014 #42

K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #47

Love, Peace and Shelter. littlemissmartypants littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #51

So far, 1/3rd of those killed in Gaza are children. Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #62