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Octafish

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13. How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jul 2014

By Rick Perlstein
Rolling Stone, May 15, 2012

This past October, at an Occupy encampment in Cleveland, Ohio, "suspicious males with walkie-talkies around their necks" and "scarves or towels around their heads" were heard grumbling at the protesters' unwillingness to act violently. At meetings a few months later, one of them, a 26-year-old with a black Mohawk known as "Cyco," explained to his anarchist colleagues how "you can make plastic explosives with bleach," and the group of five men fantasized about what they might blow up. Cyco suggested a small bridge. One of the others thought they’d have a better chance of not hurting people if they blew up a cargo ship. A third, however, argued for a big bridge – "Gotta slow the traffic that's going to make them money" – and won. He then led them to a connection who sold them C-4 explosives for $450. Then, the night before the May Day Occupy protests, they allegedly put the plan into motion – and just as the would-be terrorists fiddled with the detonator they hoped would blow to smithereens a scenic bridge in Ohio’s Cuyahoga Valley National Park traversed by 13,610 vehicles every day, the FBI swooped in to arrest them.

Right in the nick of time, just like in the movies. The authorities couldn’t have more effectively made the Occupy movement look like a danger to the republic if they had scripted it. Maybe that's because, more or less, they did.

The guy who convinced the plotters to blow up a big bridge, led them to the arms merchant, and drove the team to the bomb site was an FBI informant. The merchant was an FBI agent. The bomb, of course, was a dud. And the arrest was part of a pattern of entrapment by federal law enforcement since September 11, 2001, not of terrorist suspects, but of young men federal agents have had to talk into embracing violence in the first place. One of the Cleveland arrestees, Connor Stevens, complained to his sister of feeling "very pressured" by the guy who turned out to be an informant and was recorded in 2011 rejecting property destruction: "We're in it for the long haul and those kind of tactics just don't cut it," he said. "And it's actually harder to be non-violent than it is to do stuff like that." Though when Cleveland's NEWS Channel 5 broadcast that footage, they headlined it "Accused Bomb Plot Suspect Caught on Camera Talking Violence."

In all these law enforcement schemes the alleged terrorists masterminds end up seeming, when the full story comes out, unable to terrorize their way out of a paper bag without law enforcement tutelage. ("They teach you how to make all this stuff out of simple household items," one of the kids says on a recording quoted in the FBI affidavit about a book he has just discovered, The Anarchist Cookbook. Someone asks him how much it says explosives cost. "I'm not sure," he responds, "I just downloaded it last night.&quot It’s a perfect example of how post-9/11 fear made law enforcement tactics seem acceptable that were previously beyond the pale. Previously, however, the targets have been Muslims; now they’re white kids from Ohio. And maybe you could argue that this is acceptable, if the feds were actually acting out of a good-faith assessment of what threats are imminent and which are not. But that's not what they're doing at all. Instead, they are arrogating to themselves a downright Orwellian power – the power to deploy the might of the State to shape a fundamental narrative about which ideas Americans must be most scared of, and which ones they should not fear much at all, independent of the relative objective dangerousness of the people who hold those ideas.

SNIP...

Not everything is the same since the 1970s, of course. The media has changed: Newsday editorialized in 1972 of the Camden case, "We have come to expect such tactics from totalitarian nations that have no respect for individual rights permitting dissent. They have no place in American and those who advocate them have no place in this government." You don’t see that sort of language much any more. Indeed, Newsday appears not to have covered the arrest and trial of Hemant Lakhami at all. "Such tactics" are just not a very big deal any more.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515

Are we having Police State yet?

You can't have a security-based economy without some insecurity. arcane1 Jul 2014 #1
+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #6
Mix in Secret Government and Spherical Snooping and its MONEY for those in the know. Octafish Jul 2014 #10
So on-point. +1 Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #37
i believe it renegade000 Jul 2014 #2
It's been brought up. More a testament to our weak political will DirkGently Jul 2014 #3
And in at least one case gratuitous Jul 2014 #5
The Informants: Terrorists for the FBI Octafish Jul 2014 #11
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #27
Just watched the Newburgh Sting on HBO JaneyVee Jul 2014 #4
Thank you for the heads-up, JaneyVee! Will viddy. Octafish Jul 2014 #12
It was really good. The whole thing was a JaneyVee Jul 2014 #18
Trained by Hoover Octafish Jul 2014 #20
+1! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #7
How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook Octafish Jul 2014 #13
This is a clear abuse of power. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #23
Management seems to especially reward those who go along. Octafish Jul 2014 #25
Hoover.....a great American. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #28
Not all apples are rotten. Octafish Jul 2014 #31
Thanks. Geez. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #32
"Agent Donald Adams" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #55
Ironic. While very conservative, the FBI Agent Donald Adams was quite a compelling person. Octafish Jul 2014 #62
I'm more worried about the Feds arresting cancer grannies for growing pot Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #43
Well I'm shocked. Aerows Jul 2014 #8
That's the idea, Citizen. Octafish Jul 2014 #16
That is so fucking ugly. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #24
You always post the most Aerows Jul 2014 #48
This is reported once or twice a year the last few years johnnyreb Jul 2014 #9
Church Committee in 1976 reported CIA manipulated US Press... Octafish Jul 2014 #19
Jimmy Hoffa and the Church Committee MinM Jul 2014 #33
Like DCI William Colby said re Sam Giancana: ''We had nothing to do with that.'' Octafish Jul 2014 #35
@SpyTalker: William E. #Colby: The Gray Man MinM Jul 2014 #40
Philippines is how we got this way. Octafish Jul 2014 #60
Nixon talks about getting kickbacks from the Teamsters MinM Jul 2014 #56
Wealth and Crime often are co-dependent... Octafish Jul 2014 #59
Bebe Rebozo and his Pan American Airways Peeps MinM Jul 2014 #65
Wired: Pan Am & the CIA MinM Aug 2014 #67
Joseph & Stewart Alsop MinM Jul 2014 #66
Alsop's Fables .. "I'm Glad the CIA is Immoral" MinM Aug 2014 #68
Frank Wisner, Jr. today is a player... Octafish Aug 2014 #70
Frank Lowenstein MinM Aug 2014 #77
Absolutely, MinM. Octafish Aug 2014 #78
Some DUers pointed that out from day one malaise Jul 2014 #14
40 Years for Justice: Did the FBI Cover for the Birmingham Bombers? Octafish Jul 2014 #30
It worked so well with the Green Scare. joshcryer Jul 2014 #15
Exactly. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #22
Finally we agree on something. n/t Aerows Jul 2014 #49
How else can the establishment (TPTB) justify its humongous anti-terraist budget and its indepat Jul 2014 #17
That really is the heart of the matter... Octafish Jul 2014 #39
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #21
The Fear Factory Octafish Jul 2014 #58
Thank you for your many good works, Octafish. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #61
I don't really buy the premise Lee-Lee Jul 2014 #29
Conversely, I can't imagine myself offering someone money to blow up people sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #38
Huge K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #34
Bad blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #36
They railroaded a kid here in Oregon. JEB Jul 2014 #41
You mean the creep who WILLINGLY pressed a button convinced he was going to blow up a crowd Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #42
The confused inept kid would have had no button to push without the FBI. JEB Jul 2014 #44
Mohamud: "I want whoever is attending that event to leave, to leave either dead or injured" Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #45
Bad thoughts, indeed. JEB Jul 2014 #46
He'll have plenty of time to work on his own head, now. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #47
The FBI successfully thwarts its own Terrorist plot JEB Jul 2014 #50
And apparently a jury of 12 people didn't agree with Glenn Greenwald, who is one. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #51
Well, if wanting to kill someone is a crime JEB Jul 2014 #52
I wouldn't. But this guy did considerably more than that. And I have to believe you grasp that fact. Warren DeMontague Jul 2014 #53
This explains how a guy could lock himself out of his car. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #54
Really? Maybe this will help: King Rats Octafish Jul 2014 #57
Back in the 80s a major drug bust went haywire as it turned out ALL of the players were cops.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #63
Hoover's FBI infilitrated CPUSA... Octafish Aug 2014 #71
I know we had former SS working for us during the Cold War... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #72
Ours were infiltrated by Moscow... Octafish Aug 2014 #74
Yeah,....that's what happens when Right Wingers get together.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #75
All This Is Why I Think Police Stings Should Be Banned. Wolf Frankula Jul 2014 #64
Pretty much off topic, Trillo Aug 2014 #69
And how many times does it have to be exposed? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #73
entrapment laws are a lot like vacation laws, maternity leave laws, sick pay laws Adam051188 Aug 2014 #76
Look at that, we found a new low. Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #79
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