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Yo_Mama

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11. It's not based on SYG
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:33 PM
Apr 2012

It really isn't. That law simply removes the legal requirement to retreat.

According to Zimmerman's STATEMENT, SYG is no factor in the case at all, because he says he never had the chance to retreat.

So if he were to be acquitted on that basis, SYG would have no bearing on it.

It has always been the law that you may defend yourself if under attack. You only have a duty to retreat if you can AVOID a confrontation. The SYG law says that say if a gunman comes in the front door of a building and starts shooting or threatens with a gun, you can't be tried on the basis that you could have made it out the back door and escaped the threat without shooting the guy.

Of course, most people seem to have strong doubts about Zimmerman's account, but what he says happened is that the guy approached him, punched him, got him down, and he pulled the gun and shot because he had to defend himself.

Now maybe at the eventual trial something else will come out - right now we don't know that much about the evidence. Maybe eventually SYG will become a factor. But right now, it does not seem to be.

I also find it despicable that tv stations are giving Z's lawyers, and father a platform to monmouth Apr 2012 #1
when defense lawyers KNOW they have no defense... Evasporque Apr 2012 #2
Why is it taking so long? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #5
The autopsy is sealed until charges are brought and discovery begins csziggy Apr 2012 #6
The funeral director who prepared Trayvon's body said he was shot in the chest. Kaleva Apr 2012 #8
He also stated that due to the autopsy, he was unable to determine whether... Spazito Apr 2012 #10
You are correct. Kaleva Apr 2012 #14
3 sides bongbong Apr 2012 #3
The NRA will be pushing a split message.... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #4
Good point bongbong Apr 2012 #12
Zimmerman's first lawyer said it was not a SYG case csziggy Apr 2012 #7
You are making assumptions without facts ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #18
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #26
You are ignoring the key issue, whether or not it was justifiable homicide ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #29
Wow! bongbong Apr 2012 #34
It still has to meet the reasonable man standard ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #38
What if it did turn out to be a hate crime. Would they have been stuck with manslaughter? dkf Apr 2012 #35
I agree... Spazito Apr 2012 #9
It's not based on SYG Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #11
Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #13
Your interpretation is flawed ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #16
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #27
I suggest you read all of them ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #30
I did bongbong Apr 2012 #33
I did bongbong Apr 2012 #49
I beg to differ Kaleva Apr 2012 #19
Dead men tell no tales bongbong Apr 2012 #32
You've got it quite wrong Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #21
The way I'm reading these statutes, Trayvon Martin had a right to defend himself. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #22
Yes, he absolutely did if Zimmerman attacked him. Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #28
You can post all the cut-n-paste you want bongbong Apr 2012 #31
The dead man dialed 911 Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #43
Now this is the kind of information we need more of vs the crap the media feeds us. dkf Apr 2012 #36
The Police Chief who, with the SA at the time, cited SYG as the reason... Spazito Apr 2012 #15
Even though his lead investigator wanted to arrest Zimmerman ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #17
There often is conflict between the police and a PA's office in these matters. Kaleva Apr 2012 #20
Convenient Out for the Chief. BiggJawn Apr 2012 #24
Code section 776.032 Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #25
What would be needed for the Feds to charge him? dkf Apr 2012 #37
I think it will be grounded in the evidence Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #39
What kinds of things would have violated Martin's civil rights? dkf Apr 2012 #40
Being shot for no reason n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #48
More detailed info Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #50
Great stuff. Thanks...I really appreciate the education. dkf Apr 2012 #51
I don't think his motives were racist driven at all. Zax2me Apr 2012 #23
I have mixed feelings on SYG laws Dilldoe Apr 2012 #41
You hit on why I don't think SYG applies to Zimmerman's actions. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #46
I doubt that SYG is going to have anything to do with the outcome of the case one way or another slackmaster Apr 2012 #42
Except that it already has. It was the reason given for no arrest. morningfog Apr 2012 #44
That may not matter in the long run slackmaster Apr 2012 #45
Not being arrested initially could affect the entire case. morningfog Apr 2012 #47
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