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Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:37 PM

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Agree/disagree:Obama reminds us he has no policy toward Ukraine or Russia other than to blame Putin. [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 OP

That comment sounds cute, but is actualy silly. randys1 Jul 2014 #1

Cohen said it twice in the interview, but wasn't quick with alternatives Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #2

I'm interested in hearing some good alternatives Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #9

Co-sign. nt Jamaal510 Jul 2014 #20

The trouble is that any approach that only looks at Russia will not work because machiavelliisalive Jul 2014 #76

On this and other threads, your slip is showing. Squinch Jul 2014 #3

We're thread stalking now, are we? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #5

You have to admit .. Trajan Jul 2014 #11

I do admit that, but I wanted to quote exactly Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #19

Three months on the board...seems more like an old-timer, so familiar alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #28

I am an old timer Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #34

Sure thing, bud alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #40

+1 Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #17

Ah, well, the thing is..... Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #4

No disagreement Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #6

I like how he puts all the pieces in place Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #8

It was maddening. Everything he said sounded logical, but no reasonable conclusions were reached Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #12

Oh, c'mon. The end is very wise RobertEarl Jul 2014 #43

I do thank God that Obama is not on a hair trigger to react. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #53

Russia knows the policy RobertEarl Jul 2014 #57

The problem I see is that every policymaker over -- say 55 -- wants to couch this in cold war terms. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #59

Sure, more war leads to more war RobertEarl Jul 2014 #63

I grew up in the cold war and I sense that you did as well. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #66

Yep RobertEarl Jul 2014 #68

What makes him dumb is that he leapt to an untenable conclusion muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #80

Book Smart But Not Street Smart, Sir.... The Magistrate Jul 2014 #90

He is regurgitating the RT spin. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #71

this takes me back CatWoman Jul 2014 #7

the blame Putin for all the world's problems crowd fasttense Jul 2014 #10

You're welcome Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #13

Ah ... poor pootie poot ... Trajan Jul 2014 #15

now there you go proving me right by example fasttense Jul 2014 #23

not really CatWoman Jul 2014 #24

Plenty of us recognize Putin for what he is without longing for war. NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #54

Are you kidding? I watched "Threads", not just "The Day After". moriah Jul 2014 #62

"Threads" BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #92

Some people have a policy to blame Obama for absolutely everything. pnwmom Jul 2014 #14

To twist Lincoln's words - you can't please all the people all the time Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #16

Sometimes the far left sounds like the far right. JaneyVee Jul 2014 #18

You've got that right. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #22

Here Here! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #51

Some of the far left's love affair with Putin is disgusting. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #21

it wasn't Stalin we on the real left loved fasttense Jul 2014 #25

Keep propping up Putin. It makes you look like a Republican. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #26

Repubs are salivating over the mere thought fasttense Jul 2014 #100

well.... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #104

So, you're saying Prof. Cohen loves Putin? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #31

The article drives home the point conservatives have been making... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #33

DI, understand, please, first that I posted this as a discussion point Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #49

I think so many are quick to attack Obama and give Putin a pass... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #78

Other than to materially support Britain and the USSR, FDR did little in Europe prior to 42 Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #87

That's my point, though... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #94

I think he admires Putin, and thinks he wouldn't make a mistake muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #81

As I said elsewhere - I'd just like to know what he would have Obama do. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #89

No, it's just the smear all critics of Obama routine. Vattel Jul 2014 #85

Is there some reason why you don't like the 'left'? We are used to it of course, but I'm always sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #61

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #72

I asked you before, do I know you? You sound very familiar, but that could be because you are sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #74

Disagree onecaliberal Jul 2014 #27

Fair enough Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #30

I get that.... onecaliberal Jul 2014 #36

He ran as a progressive but got alot of campaign cash from neocons betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #29

Obama has ran the least interventionist foreign policy, beyond maybe Carter, since before FDR. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #35

American foreign policy has long been a disaster since WW2 betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #39

No president has been good. Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #55

Stephen Cohen is an imbecile. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #32

Explain and expand, please. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #37

I work under the assumption that any apologist for Putin is an imbecile. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #38

I don't think there is any basis for saying he is an apologist for Putin betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #42

Anyone who doesn't hold Putin and the separatists solely responsible for MH17... conservaphobe Jul 2014 #45

That's your opinion. betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #46

That's corroborated fact. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #47

The insurgency against the elected leader of Ukraine betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #48

LOL, okey dokey. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #52

Yep...she threw cookies at them until they fled!! lol EX500rider Jul 2014 #95

Disagree. Chan790 Jul 2014 #41

Possibly because the Ukraine was part of Russia betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #44

Uh, check your history book. Chan790 Jul 2014 #60

Cohen is right. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #50

OK. You agree with Cohen. Finish his argument. What should US policy be? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #56

One doesn't have to state their own policy to observe that someone else has none. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #58

No - One does have to state their own policy to observe that someone else has none. Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #64

What you're saying makes no sense. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #65

Difference in views on argumentation Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #67

Complaining about a problem without suggesting solutions is called "whining". phleshdef Jul 2014 #70

That's a more elegant way of stating what I was trying to say Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #75

Oh please. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #83

No, it is called recognizing a problem. I say the answer not just usually but almost always is TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #93

So, I e-mailed Cohen. He referred me to his article in "The Nation" Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #98

Disagree. Cohen is a Putin humper. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #77

You Seem To Imagine, Sir, Free Speech Exists Only If No One Disagrees With What Someone Says The Magistrate Jul 2014 #79

No-one attacked Democracy Now muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #82

Nothing against Amy Goodman... Drunken Irishman Jul 2014 #96

It really does not matter SoCalDem Jul 2014 #84

Not disagreement, but some observations Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #88

Stephen Cohen is a bigoted, hateful writer. I no longer read The Nation because of shit he Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #86

Fair Enough Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #91

What is the correct policy? Is this a EU matter? A NATO matter? A UN matter? McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #97

Peace talks would be ideal. From a US standpoint, "Stay Out of it" might be the best option. (nm) Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #99

I disagree. Obama is waiting for the right moment, for the moment when things are almost JDPriestly Jul 2014 #101

Any evaluation of the current administration policy has to start with remembering W.Bush Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #107

I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #102

Well said Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #106

It frustrates me to no end ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #108

Yet another pontificating academic with no skin MineralMan Jul 2014 #103

I feel much more that way since I read his article in "The Nation" Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2014 #105