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Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:37 PM

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Agree/disagree:Obama reminds us he has no policy toward Ukraine or Russia other than to blame Putin. [View all]	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	OP
That comment sounds cute, but is actualy silly.	randys1	Jul 2014	#1
Cohen said it twice in the interview, but wasn't quick with alternatives	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#2
I'm interested in hearing some good alternatives	Blue_Tires	Jul 2014	#9
Co-sign. nt	Jamaal510	Jul 2014	#20
The trouble is that any approach that only looks at Russia will not work because	machiavelliisalive	Jul 2014	#76
On this and other threads, your slip is showing.	Squinch	Jul 2014	#3
We're thread stalking now, are we?	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#5
You have to admit ..	Trajan	Jul 2014	#11
I do admit that, but I wanted to quote exactly	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#19
Three months on the board...seems more like an old-timer, so familiar	alcibiades_mystery	Jul 2014	#28
I am an old timer	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#34
Sure thing, bud	alcibiades_mystery	Jul 2014	#40
+1	Cali_Democrat	Jul 2014	#17
Ah, well, the thing is.....	Roy Serohz	Jul 2014	#4
No disagreement	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#6
I like how he puts all the pieces in place	Blue_Tires	Jul 2014	#8
It was maddening. Everything he said sounded logical, but no reasonable conclusions were reached	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#12
Oh, c'mon. The end is very wise	RobertEarl	Jul 2014	#43
I do thank God that Obama is not on a hair trigger to react.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#53
Russia knows the policy	RobertEarl	Jul 2014	#57
The problem I see is that every policymaker over -- say 55 -- wants to couch this in cold war terms.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#59
Sure, more war leads to more war	RobertEarl	Jul 2014	#63
I grew up in the cold war and I sense that you did as well.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#66
Yep	RobertEarl	Jul 2014	#68
What makes him dumb is that he leapt to an untenable conclusion	muriel_volestrangler	Jul 2014	#80
Book Smart But Not Street Smart, Sir....	The Magistrate	Jul 2014	#90
He is regurgitating the RT spin.	geek tragedy	Jul 2014	#71
this takes me back	CatWoman	Jul 2014	#7
the blame Putin for all the world's problems crowd	fasttense	Jul 2014	#10
You're welcome	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#13
Ah ... poor pootie poot ...	Trajan	Jul 2014	#15
now there you go proving me right by example	fasttense	Jul 2014	#23
not really	CatWoman	Jul 2014	#24
Plenty of us recognize Putin for what he is without longing for war. NT	Adrahil	Jul 2014	#54
Are you kidding? I watched "Threads", not just "The Day After".	moriah	Jul 2014	#62
"Threads"	BumRushDaShow	Jul 2014	#92
Some people have a policy to blame Obama for absolutely everything.	pnwmom	Jul 2014	#14
To twist Lincoln's words - you can't please all the people all the time	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#16
Sometimes the far left sounds like the far right.	JaneyVee	Jul 2014	#18
You've got that right.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#22
Here Here!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2014	#51
Some of the far left's love affair with Putin is disgusting.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#21
it wasn't Stalin we on the real left loved	fasttense	Jul 2014	#25
Keep propping up Putin. It makes you look like a Republican.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#26
Repubs are salivating over the mere thought	fasttense	Jul 2014	#100
well....	sheshe2	Jul 2014	#104
So, you're saying Prof. Cohen loves Putin?	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#31
The article drives home the point conservatives have been making...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#33
DI, understand, please, first that I posted this as a discussion point	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#49
I think so many are quick to attack Obama and give Putin a pass...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#78
Other than to materially support Britain and the USSR, FDR did little in Europe prior to 42	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#87
That's my point, though...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#94
I think he admires Putin, and thinks he wouldn't make a mistake	muriel_volestrangler	Jul 2014	#81
As I said elsewhere - I'd just like to know what he would have Obama do.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#89
No, it's just the smear all critics of Obama routine.	Vattel	Jul 2014	#85
Is there some reason why you don't like the 'left'? We are used to it of course, but I'm always	sabrina 1	Jul 2014	#61
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jul 2014	#72
I asked you before, do I know you? You sound very familiar, but that could be because you are	sabrina 1	Jul 2014	#74
Disagree	onecaliberal	Jul 2014	#27
Fair enough	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#30
I get that....	onecaliberal	Jul 2014	#36
He ran as a progressive but got alot of campaign cash from neocons	betterdemsonly	Jul 2014	#29
Obama has ran the least interventionist foreign policy, beyond maybe Carter, since before FDR.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#35
American foreign policy has long been a disaster since WW2	betterdemsonly	Jul 2014	#39
No president has been good.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#55
Stephen Cohen is an imbecile.	conservaphobe	Jul 2014	#32
Explain and expand, please.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#37
I work under the assumption that any apologist for Putin is an imbecile. nt	conservaphobe	Jul 2014	#38
I don't think there is any basis for saying he is an apologist for Putin	betterdemsonly	Jul 2014	#42
Anyone who doesn't hold Putin and the separatists solely responsible for MH17...	conservaphobe	Jul 2014	#45
That's your opinion.	betterdemsonly	Jul 2014	#46
That's corroborated fact. nt	conservaphobe	Jul 2014	#47
The insurgency against the elected leader of Ukraine	betterdemsonly	Jul 2014	#48
LOL, okey dokey.	conservaphobe	Jul 2014	#52
Yep...she threw cookies at them until they fled!! lol	EX500rider	Jul 2014	#95
Disagree.	Chan790	Jul 2014	#41
Possibly because the Ukraine was part of Russia	betterdemsonly	Jul 2014	#44
Uh, check your history book.	Chan790	Jul 2014	#60
Cohen is right.	BKH70041	Jul 2014	#50
OK. You agree with Cohen. Finish his argument. What should US policy be?	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#56
One doesn't have to state their own policy to observe that someone else has none.	BKH70041	Jul 2014	#58
No - One does have to state their own policy to observe that someone else has none.	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#64
What you're saying makes no sense.	BKH70041	Jul 2014	#65
Difference in views on argumentation	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#67
Complaining about a problem without suggesting solutions is called "whining".	phleshdef	Jul 2014	#70
That's a more elegant way of stating what I was trying to say	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#75
Oh please.	BKH70041	Jul 2014	#83
No, it is called recognizing a problem. I say the answer not just usually but almost always is	TheKentuckian	Jul 2014	#93
So, I e-mailed Cohen. He referred me to his article in "The Nation"	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#98
Disagree. Cohen is a Putin humper.	geek tragedy	Jul 2014	#69
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jul 2014	#73
This message was self-deleted by its author	Corruption Inc	Jul 2014	#77
You Seem To Imagine, Sir, Free Speech Exists Only If No One Disagrees With What Someone Says	The Magistrate	Jul 2014	#79
No-one attacked Democracy Now	muriel_volestrangler	Jul 2014	#82
Nothing against Amy Goodman...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2014	#96
It really does not matter	SoCalDem	Jul 2014	#84
Not disagreement, but some observations	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#88
Stephen Cohen is a bigoted, hateful writer. I no longer read The Nation because of shit he	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2014	#86
Fair Enough	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#91
What is the correct policy? Is this a EU matter? A NATO matter? A UN matter?	McCamy Taylor	Jul 2014	#97
Peace talks would be ideal. From a US standpoint, "Stay Out of it" might be the best option. (nm)	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#99
I disagree. Obama is waiting for the right moment, for the moment when things are almost	JDPriestly	Jul 2014	#101
Any evaluation of the current administration policy has to start with remembering W.Bush	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#107
I disagree ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jul 2014	#102
Well said	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#106
It frustrates me to no end ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jul 2014	#108
Yet another pontificating academic with no skin	MineralMan	Jul 2014	#103
I feel much more that way since I read his article in "The Nation"	Algernon Moncrieff	Jul 2014	#105

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