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32. That isn't what Marx meant by 'property'
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jul 2014
Personal property versus means of production

There is some connection between personal property and means of production. Personal property is considered private property that is movable, as almost an extension of one's person and does include property from which one has the right to exclude others. These objects can range from CDs to houses, depending on one's perspective, but definitions tend to include personal items such as clothing, books, food, or records. However where personal property explicitly differs from private property is in its productive capacity. Not all forms of personal property have productive capacity, whereas private property like land and machines might have some productive capacity.[11][not in citation given][12] From the socialist perspective, private property refers to capital or means of production that is owned by a business or few individuals and operated for their profit. As mentioned above, personal property refers to tangible items and possessions individuals own. Socialism does not advocate the abolition of personal property, believing that it is an acceptable form of ownership of an item, unlike private property.[13][not in citation given]

From the Marxist perspective, which is very similar to the socialist perspective, private property is a social relationship, not (as with personal property) a relationship between person and thing. It also describes personal property, as above, as those objects which are personal, or an extension of one's self. The Marxist perspective also does not advocate the abolition of personal property: it believes that it is only private property that should be done away with.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property#Socialist_perspectives


Good grief

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I just looked at it online. I'd troll the shit out of anybody who built that lot dominating eyesore. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #1
How did you find that? I'd like to see that also. Thx! Owl Jul 2014 #17
The article says the corner it's on, so I looked on Google Maps. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #18
here is a link d_r Jul 2014 #33
More the builder's fault than the neighbor's. DirkGently Jul 2014 #2
I agree with on the CO. Something smelly here. Lochloosa Jul 2014 #3
I agree. The power company doesn't usually need permission to work in an easement. FSogol Jul 2014 #6
They do when it crosses the middle of the property. Xithras Jul 2014 #19
Wonder if that "temporary hookup" DirkGently Jul 2014 #11
I thought the same thing. cyberswede Jul 2014 #7
750K for a 3 bedroom home? yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #4
This comment... OUCH! Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #9
It's a lot of house, it's also takes up the entire lot. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #12
Tsk. Tsk. The price of "I've got mine" has gone up. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #5
As has, apparently, "I want yours." WinkyDink Jul 2014 #10
Right on, Che! tabasco Jul 2014 #23
That isn't what Marx meant by 'property' leftstreet Jul 2014 #32
The term "due diligence" comes to mind. That, and ASSume. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #8
Dumb-ass first world nation problems all around. hunter Jul 2014 #13
.. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #14
Sadly I scrolled on google maps to my home when I was in kindergarten... hunter Jul 2014 #16
I've looked at both houses in question in Google Street view Coventina Jul 2014 #15
Seriously? This is well past my Star Trek Captain Piccard facepalm zone. hunter Jul 2014 #25
Seriously. I'm sorry you have painful memories of this neighborhood. Coventina Jul 2014 #35
Revenge idea: a very loud flamingdem Jul 2014 #20
Wow! What a fugly house! NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #21
Does it look like this house? cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #26
The edges are more refined. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #27
But the resemblence is uncanny cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #29
True. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #30
Well, it's sort of in keeping with an ugly house across the street Warpy Jul 2014 #28
Interesting. flvegan Jul 2014 #22
The whole story stinks. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #38
Dig under the freeway and put in an underground line? Why not dig around the Autumn Jul 2014 #24
Gee...he thought..well guess what he should have confirmed.. Historic NY Jul 2014 #31
I wonder if he designs prisons in his day job... Princess Turandot Jul 2014 #34
Those windows look like they belong on the Chicago Metropolitan Correctional Center Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #37
Before spending all that money, they actually failed to do a treestar Jul 2014 #36
I'm going to rent myself a house in the shade of the freeway.... rufus dog Jul 2014 #39
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