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PotatoChip

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94. Yep. Even if we were to believe GZ's *own* account,
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:38 PM
Apr 2012

via his dad in the first part of your post, it logically makes little sense.

GZ contradicts himself from the very start by claiming to say (to Trayvon) that he was not following him, only to do just that in the next paragraph. Supposedly (again by GZ's own account) after that reply to Trayvon, he then gets out of his vehicle and does what? He follows Trayvon behind the buildings where supposedly the young man is "waiting on him". {Yeah, right.}

Why would GZ get out of his vehicle anyway if Trayvon was as aggressive as GZ makes it sound? If GZ was truly not following Trayvon, why wouldn't he just drive away? Because it didn't happen that way, and GZ knows it. Zimmerman's very own account of what happened makes no sense.

You're right, it doesn't add up at all.

It's infuriating to think that Zimmerman is still a free man and might not have even had to worry at this point, had it not been for the public outcry. We can't let this story fade away.

I am glad that you are honest enough to say that you are guessing. Vattel Apr 2012 #1
It's possible that Martin did throw a punch that landed because his emotions Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #3
It's not clear that Martin and not Zimmerman was crying for help. Vattel Apr 2012 #5
Well, at least two voice recognition experts say with a high probability Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #7
Big man has a gun. And he's crying like a baby for help? mainer Apr 2012 #9
A good little fighter can often beat a much larger less experienced fighter ... spin Apr 2012 #10
How much experience does GZ have in fighting? LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #22
That's a good question ... spin Apr 2012 #28
According to reports, he'd been a bouncer at illegal house parties csziggy Apr 2012 #37
Yeah, maybe a black belt or trained boxer or something could take out somebody 100 pounds heavier Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #40
I agree the average person would get beat in a fight ... spin Apr 2012 #68
Yes, it's true that anything can happen on the street Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #76
I agree which is why I said ... spin Apr 2012 #77
Have you ever been attacked by a 150 pound 17-year-old? Vattel Apr 2012 #11
If I were 200 pounds and had a gun, I think I could handle that. mainer Apr 2012 #16
You'd prefer that he fired before he tried to get help? Vattel Apr 2012 #24
The screams were described as desperate mainer Apr 2012 #25
Good question. Was it really necessary to shoot as opposed to draw and aim? Vattel Apr 2012 #33
If Martin was on top of Zimmerman, Zimmerman would have had blood all over him. EOTE Apr 2012 #82
Really? How do you know that? Do gunshot wounds always bleed all over the place immediately? Vattel Apr 2012 #83
Wow, you're not very good at this game. EOTE Apr 2012 #87
Actually it depends on what the bullet hits. Vattel Apr 2012 #97
You are entirely and utterly wrong. EOTE Apr 2012 #98
I've been around people who've been fatally shot before. Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #102
You must be wrong! and racist too! Vattel Apr 2012 #103
No, perhaps just really ignorant. EOTE Apr 2012 #106
No way in hell his shirt would be clean. PERIOD. EOTE Apr 2012 #105
Dude, Ive done this before. Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #108
Dude, you've shot people while they were wrestling on top of you? EOTE Apr 2012 #109
Are you really saying if a person laying on you gets shot in the chest, you won't get blood on you? uppityperson Apr 2012 #100
Simply brandishing the gun would have sufficed. EOTE Apr 2012 #81
Zimmerman is clearly no where near 250 lbs. Vattel Apr 2012 #85
He clearly is. He's a buff guy. EOTE Apr 2012 #86
The suggestion that he is 250 lbs was based on the old arrest report. Vattel Apr 2012 #89
He's buff in the new pics, he was doughy before. EOTE Apr 2012 #90
And so you admit you are just guessing his weight based on looking at him? Vattel Apr 2012 #91
You're the one who's guessing. EOTE Apr 2012 #92
Don't misrepresent what I said. Vattel Apr 2012 #96
The reports of 250 pounds were NOT based on the old arrest report. EOTE Apr 2012 #99
Here's what I said: Vattel Apr 2012 #104
You're more apt to believe the friend's description than the myriad media reports. EOTE Apr 2012 #107
This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Apr 2012 #114
The media reports of his weight are not "completely consistent." Vattel Apr 2012 #115
Two different court qualified sound experts say the screams were unlikely to be Zimmerman's. PotatoChip Apr 2012 #20
That is significant. Vattel Apr 2012 #26
If they have a sample of Martin's voice and get a greater than 90% match Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #27
Yes it will. Vattel Apr 2012 #32
Thank God they have that phone call Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #42
Seriously, it's sickening. EOTE Apr 2012 #88
and the timing and content of the phone calls seem to prove Zimmerman is lying maddezmom Apr 2012 #93
Yep. Even if we were to believe GZ's *own* account, PotatoChip Apr 2012 #94
Actually, I've been attacked by a bigger human being than that and no one ended up dead Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #41
Crying like a baby while unholstering his gun and aiming it arcane1 Apr 2012 #17
Bingo! nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #21
Exactly. Zoeisright Apr 2012 #74
Hot head Zimmerman crying for help? libertypirate Apr 2012 #57
No identifiable witness says that Zimmerman was crying for help. EOTE Apr 2012 #80
Let's pretend Martin threw the first punch, as difficult as that is to believe. pnwmom Apr 2012 #4
I don't think it would be such an unreasonable reaction. Vattel Apr 2012 #6
So if Trayvon had shot Zimmerman, that would be ok too? yardwork Apr 2012 #12
I can't help but notice that Vattel didn't answer this question Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #43
Wonder why it applies to GZ but NOT the Trayon? We tell children and teens to fight, scream and Ecumenist Apr 2012 #48
How perceptive of you. (sarcasm) Vattel Apr 2012 #113
So shooting Zimmerman would be okay Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #116
Huh? Punching him would be okay too. Vattel Apr 2012 #117
Exactly. I guess he who shoots first, wins. n/t pnwmom Apr 2012 #50
Nice law we have there. My state has one too. yardwork Apr 2012 #51
If the races were reversed, I also can't believe there would have been the same lack of concern. n/t pnwmom Apr 2012 #54
the SYG law applies more to Trayvon than to zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #46
And for all we know GZ instigated the confrontaion verbally LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #23
Got the upper hand while he was talking on the phone to his girl friend? Wouldn't he need both hands jwirr Apr 2012 #59
How did you know that Martin threw the first punch? shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #66
It doesn't matter whether he did or not. HE was being accosted by a total stranger sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #71
It is a pretty tight timeline. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #2
AND all that head bashing didn't leave enough marks csziggy Apr 2012 #38
The salient questions: After running, where did Trayvon disappear to? Sulla Apr 2012 #8
Maybe he never ran. yardwork Apr 2012 #13
who said Trayvon was running? magical thyme Apr 2012 #14
Probably hiding from him, that's my guess arcane1 Apr 2012 #15
Why not just go home? Sulla Apr 2012 #18
Last I heard, he was on his way home when he was accosted by ZImmerman n/t arcane1 Apr 2012 #19
Didn't the girlfriend say it was raining and Trayvon had ducked under K Gardner Apr 2012 #29
So how could it have happened? Sulla Apr 2012 #31
That makes more sense than Zimmerman's story arcane1 Apr 2012 #34
But Zimmerman did find Martin Oilwellian Apr 2012 #35
Trayvon's path was pretty much straight to where he was staying csziggy Apr 2012 #39
If Zimmerman got between Trayvon and his Dad's girlfriends (place of safety) Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #44
If anybody needed the protect of Stand Your Ground, it was Trayvon csziggy Apr 2012 #45
Please let there be a recording of Trayvon's voice Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #47
Someone out there has to have a voicemail Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #60
I have no doubt that there are recordings of Trayvon's voice csziggy Apr 2012 #65
Look at where Zimmerman's truck was parked. Sulla Apr 2012 #55
So you are suggesting Trayvon was stalking Zimmerman while talking to his girlfriend? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #62
Why does it matter where Trayvon was? He's the DEAD person in this situation csziggy Apr 2012 #70
"IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TRAYVON WAS DOING" Sulla Apr 2012 #72
Why are you so quick to believe the person with a history of violence Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #73
Since Zimmerman is claiming self defense it should be up to HIM to PROVE he was attacked csziggy Apr 2012 #78
Really? You guys must be contortionists in the way that you're trying to justify zimmy's Ecumenist Apr 2012 #49
Why, you ask? Sulla Apr 2012 #56
That doesn't make NAY sense, but that's alright becuase you;re about to be served a pizza! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #58
Sure it does Sulla Apr 2012 #61
And the Rosa Parks and Terry Schiavo cases blew up in the faces of wingnuts Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #63
What kind of HUmanoid are you? What does the outright murder of an unarmed teenager have to do with Ecumenist Apr 2012 #67
did you sign up here just to drop Nuggets of info like that? librechik Apr 2012 #84
He didn't run. vaberella Apr 2012 #110
I really appreciate the way you laid this out here with the timeline.. K Gardner Apr 2012 #30
Zimmermans lies keep piling up joe1991 Apr 2012 #36
Welcome to DU Joe! Right glad Tameetcha! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #52
how about the lies from his dad about how Trayvon told Zimmerman he was going to die JI7 Apr 2012 #53
Nobody but Martin and Zimmerman knows what really happened. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #64
We can also agree that there are a lot of questions about how the investigation ... spin Apr 2012 #69
Great and informative thread coeur_de_lion Apr 2012 #75
Great work! Great thread. Bookmarked n/t Catherina Apr 2012 #79
What happened to the Skittles and Iced Tea? KansDem Apr 2012 #95
Huh...maybe that's how Zimmerman got the bloody nose. vaberella Apr 2012 #111
Do you have links to the timeline? stevenleser Apr 2012 #101
I hate to mention this but ... spin Apr 2012 #112
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