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libtodeath

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79. Capitalism has failed.

Reply to NNN0LHI (Original post)

Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:59 AM

Apr 2012

we need to admit that and move on to a democratic socialist society.

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Sitting in a restaurant today I realized how much trouble we are in for [View all] NNN0LHI Apr 2012 OP

Perhaps a gratuity should be added to the bill. Cleita Apr 2012 #1

I don't believe tips will make up for the disparity Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #4

No, but they sure would help. Cleita Apr 2012 #5

Still a pittance Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #14

What are you basing the 120% on, his salary? Cleita Apr 2012 #17

Not sure what your point is Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #22

Yes, but the 20% gratuity comes from the receipts, not the wages he earns Cleita Apr 2012 #26

Sorry for missing the point about restaurant receipts Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #48

It's not really anything to do with meals. it's to do with the assumption of tips. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #70

Those laws should be struck down. Apparently, they have become worse since I did restaurant p/r. Cleita Apr 2012 #107

regarding docking for meals. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #76

Which ONLY makes sense if all his tables' tabs total $7.25 every hour dmallind Apr 2012 #45

You're right Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #47

The real problem is the attitude of the millionaire farmers...who probably aren't growing a damn nanabugg Apr 2012 #69

Let me tell you about farmers. Boudica the Lyoness Apr 2012 #96

Some states DO require restaurants to pay minimum wage, but Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #56

True and California is one of them. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #77

The difference is between $8 an hour and $20 an hour, for a good manufacturing job. pnwmom Apr 2012 #24

I didn't say that but it's still better than getting a nickel. Cleita Apr 2012 #27

depends on the manufacturing job hfojvt Apr 2012 #15

All the good manufacturing jobs that paid well were union jobs. Cleita Apr 2012 #28

That is not true. bvar22 Apr 2012 #109

You are very right. However, it was because of the union competition that Cleita Apr 2012 #110

Sadly, these days even manufacturing jobs usually pay crap wages dotymed Apr 2012 #32

a server's salary Maine-ah Apr 2012 #54

I confess to being clueless about what servers earn Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #58

that`s why my wife leaves cash if at all possible madrchsod Apr 2012 #16

Or we should just let the minimum wage be the minimum wage quakerboy Apr 2012 #49

My point of view is that since the IRS taxes tips TransitJohn Apr 2012 #50

I would agree with that quakerboy Apr 2012 #53

I'd rather take tips than minimum wage. Maine-ah Apr 2012 #55

This is where the thinking is wrong. Cleita Apr 2012 #60

Yes that is still the law but not quite as you say. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #75

Social Security and Medicare are in deep trouble. former9thward Apr 2012 #2

Because they are. Cleita Apr 2012 #7

Despite your well known and feeble attempts to slander posters by using terms former9thward Apr 2012 #13

Because you phrase those memes exactly like they do. It makes me think that this is where Cleita Apr 2012 #25

Sorry, but not all of us have the confidence you have. The Trustees Report also says... sad sally Apr 2012 #39

It's not broken yet, unless you allow them to break it. Cleita Apr 2012 #59

I think there'll be a civil war before the right-wing breaks and gives in, in the grand scheme. Selatius Apr 2012 #71

Are you aware that the projections change every year? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #72

"Legislative modifications" = rate increase, as has been done many times in the past. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #74

They were in trouble the MOMENT our manufacturing went offshore. nt Pholus Apr 2012 #62

No one who actually delves into the history and the numbers for themself can actually believe that. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #73

without a middle class wendylaroux Apr 2012 #3

Oh it's good for some things Hawkowl Apr 2012 #6

I have said that same thing for over eighteen months. truedelphi Apr 2012 #21

Steinbeck said that when property is gathered in too few hands it is taken away. leeroysphitz Apr 2012 #33

I don't know if that can happen quite that way anymore. quakerboy Apr 2012 #51

Occupy Wall Street is currently occupying the truedelphi Apr 2012 #111

It's amazing to me that people ever fell for LuvNewcastle Apr 2012 #8

The minute we stopped being a country that created and made things BB_Troll Apr 2012 #78

Everyone sees that the employment figures as getting better, but that's not the whole story. Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #9

I once read a story about Calcutta, India. Cleita Apr 2012 #11

Yes, Madame DeFarge is certainly knitting. Denninmi Apr 2012 #10

my wife works with and for mentally and physicality challenged adults madrchsod Apr 2012 #12

reaganomics reached its full maturity. KG Apr 2012 #18

My son is a cook at a chain restaurant. He has been there since it openned. He has done southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #19

The middle class workers who built the American economy in the early 20th century baldguy Apr 2012 #20

There is another thing to consider: truedelphi Apr 2012 #23

And you know what the bestest thing of all of that is? Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #29

That's what I think too Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #30

The solution is VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. xtraxritical Apr 2012 #67

Don, the fruits and joys of living in a society in which most public policy is driven by a indepat Apr 2012 #31

no easy answers... handmade34 Apr 2012 #34

I was the kid of one of those "millionaire farmers" Coyote_Bandit Apr 2012 #35

There are many different opportunities to look around you and reach the same conclusion. Quantess Apr 2012 #36

We see it coming - financial issues, just like global warming, just like....but we can't think big NRaleighLiberal Apr 2012 #37

We are witnessing Disaster Capitalism at work ... Auggie Apr 2012 #38

In 1972 I started at the auto factory flipping hoods safeinOhio Apr 2012 #40

How do you know this is his only job? Maybe he works another job and this one trying to make as RB TexLa Apr 2012 #41

I can't help but wonder if the OP EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #42

It's not difficult to imagine an economic system that works... hunter Apr 2012 #43

So according to you SATIRical Apr 2012 #84

Apparantly it works for you... hunter Apr 2012 #100

I'll wait for your answer SATIRical Apr 2012 #103

Yup, our systems were not designed to work based on high unemployment or shrinking wages. TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #44

The more I look around the more I think we're headed for an economic revolt in the not too distant future. Initech Apr 2012 #46

This is where, IMO, the Democrats need to focus. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #52

Can't he work in the new Toyota plant. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #57

We need the jobs back in the U.S., not in China. We need tariffs or something Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #61

We don't even value the jobs we do have Major Nikon Apr 2012 #64

The reason why the auto industry jobs paid well and had good benefits was because of unions Major Nikon Apr 2012 #63

Yup. In France, servers in restaurants earn "upper middle class" incomes. TahitiNut Apr 2012 #90

This is the direction the US needs to go Major Nikon Apr 2012 #92

I agree. In Spain, where I lived for many years, waiters are paid a living wage Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #97

Exactly! Phlem Apr 2012 #65

Not all farmers are bad, but DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #66

Shithead attitude is everywhere Kennah Apr 2012 #68

Capitalism has failed. libtodeath Apr 2012 #79

To restore the manufacturing base The Wizard Apr 2012 #80

About to happen? it's been happening for 30 years. Javaman Apr 2012 #81

We need more alignment between schooling and today's jobs KurtNYC Apr 2012 #82

Cue the "post-secondary schooling should be about SATIRical Apr 2012 #86

All those I know from my graduating class who decided abelenkpe Apr 2012 #87

A nickel? davidthegnome Apr 2012 #83

? marshall gaines Apr 2012 #85

What is "loading hoods at an auto plant" FarCenter Apr 2012 #88

Pretty much the same way these workers are loading floor pans at 3:00 minutes into this video NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #89

Good jobs come and go... DaveJ Apr 2012 #91

............ Marrah_G Apr 2012 #101

Sorry you disagree, but without further input or discussion, it is hard to DaveJ Apr 2012 #105

Most people serving coffee aren't doing so because they are lazy Marrah_G Apr 2012 #108

The thing I think you may not be realizing is that for many of us who truedelphi Apr 2012 #115

Welcome to the world Glaisne Apr 2012 #93

Someone needs ProSense Apr 2012 #94

a general strike? barbtries Apr 2012 #95

It IS happening, chervilant Apr 2012 #98

K&R raouldukelives Apr 2012 #99

41 years old and living the American dream!!!!!!! Marrah_G Apr 2012 #102

My hat is off to you as truedelphi Apr 2012 #112

I do love the Occupiers Marrah_G Apr 2012 #113

I think the 1% running this country will get rid of the Social Security and then those working these midnight Apr 2012 #104

"Millionare farmers" that probably sit around complaining about Obama all day. louis-t Apr 2012 #106

Thanks Don, 99Forever Apr 2012 #114