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Octafish

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76. The poster was new. Now, he's gone.

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:26 AM

Jun 2014

I think it was a "he" based on the tone of the writing -- snippy when there was no confrontation. From what I could tell, there was nothing to indicate the person was a troll, other than pointing out NSA spying was still going on with Obama.

Most importantly: You are most welcome, navarth. Thank you for the kind words.

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Hannah Arendt knew what she was talking about... Octafish Jun 2014 #3

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Welcome, surgence. I think Octafish was posting for the benefit of all DU readers. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #35

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^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jun 2014 #7

Which this? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #36

Look how many, even at this website, have been manipulated into defending it villager Jun 2014 #26

Refresh my memory... grasswire Jun 2014 #2

Tire tracks up and down his back. Octafish Jun 2014 #8

Definitely, I believe he was one of the first to get there. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #22

The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #4

Camus pegged Them. Octafish Jun 2014 #10

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Bush and Cheney and all their enablers and cronies going back decades... Octafish Jun 2014 #17

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I know. It's a shock to me, too. Octafish Jun 2014 #21

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not one of Them, but has no choice carolinayellowdog Jun 2014 #33

They are never 'gone'. They leave the public stage and continue their 'work' offstage. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #24

Don't forget Prescot Bush... freebrew Jun 2014 #80

A real blast from the past: Octafish Jun 2014 #89

But here is the question fasttense Jun 2014 #71

Germany collected info on Jews too once upon a time. I know it's not an exact comparison but... L0oniX Jun 2014 #6

IMO, it is an exact comparison. Octafish Jun 2014 #12

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No. The illegal domestic surveillance continues under the current administration. Octafish Jun 2014 #19

Just to inject my own opinion here zeemike Jun 2014 #20

I think it's a perfectly legitimate comparison. The East German Stasi also spied on the people. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #25

And today they have the ultimate tools, basically prying into everyone's mind. It's dangerous and RKP5637 Jun 2014 #29

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Sometimes I feel like we're moving right back into the McCarthy era. It's hard to tell RKP5637 Jun 2014 #34

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Not to me ... it indicates a lack of trust, and it's used under the guise of RKP5637 Jun 2014 #40

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Yep, SOS! Pair what sounds an acceptable premise with a covert result. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #46

It's an important comparison. woo me with science Jun 2014 #86

What I've been sayin all along rickyhall Jun 2014 #9

Ideas to strengthen minds and nations. Octafish Jun 2014 #27

Democratic Underground - Who - Rest Assured We Are Watched cantbeserious Jun 2014 #13

Agent Mike has been a member since the start. L0oniX Jun 2014 #16

Looks like I got here before the swarm. zeemike Jun 2014 #15

I think if it was announced that WalMart had been given a contract to inject all of us djean111 Jun 2014 #51

Makes sense Politicub Jun 2014 #28

Right on the mark... elias49 Jun 2014 #30

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Truth-Out Unknown Beatle Jun 2014 #37

Also, Bush did not claim the authority to execute American citizens without due process. Maedhros Jun 2014 #59

Hey, nobody ever promised you'd like the "Change," now, did they?!?! blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #63

I always knew recommending Octafish threads would get me on a list. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #41

Uh oh. Now you did it. Is that one of Obama's 30,000 Drones outside??? blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #64

If they blow me up I'm sure I must deserve it. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #68

Exactly the problem MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #43

Combine the power of being able to cherrypick any situation, word, or phrase out of context... Shandris Jun 2014 #44

Hedges gets it. If you read one article today, read Hedges' essay. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #45

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #47

Hedges is both eloquent and completely right. bbgrunt Jun 2014 #48

That's why I moon the sons of %$#@#$# on a regular basis. Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #49

30,000 Drones, cameras @ every intersection & all along the freeways. And next, cameras/microphones blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #65

''J Edgar Hoover with Supercomputers'' is how Ray McGovern put it in 2006... Octafish Jun 2014 #75

Jeb will complete the Empire that Dumbya was too stupid to finish. Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #82

Lynn's prolly ticked, too. Octafish Jun 2014 #84

Some called them, "the Bush Administration" Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #91

Prolly save Cleveland, too. Octafish Jun 2014 #92

Another Bush in the White House would be the end of... Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #94

Great thread smallcat88 Jun 2014 #50

I don't know why so many people are so willing to defend the NSA's Jake2413 Jun 2014 #52

Because if The Leader approves, so must the vassals [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2014 #60

Because of the "D" after his name. And nothing else. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #66

$$$ nt NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #70

Last gasp indeed. JEB Jun 2014 #53

Except gun and gun-owner registration. krispos42 Jun 2014 #54

Hedges just called a bunch of DUers "ignorant and inexperienced" nikto Jun 2014 #55

Control. davidthegnome Jun 2014 #56

Let's face it... nikto Jun 2014 #57

Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’ scarletwoman Jun 2014 #58

Bow and Arrow Octafish Jun 2014 #87

It's unfathomable that any of this is even considered debatable. woo me with science Jun 2014 #61

+1. Right back to the 1930s, perhaps. But this time, there are no good guys to come to the rescue. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #67

You'll be "disappeared," and the people that question your whereabouts will be threatened. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #62

:) this is useful to know. NuttyFluffers Jun 2014 #69

The goal is actually to create a steady source of income for govt. surveillance contractors... MrScorpio Jun 2014 #72

That's a happy benefit for the Secret Keepers... Octafish Jun 2014 #78

They get to pick and choose who the gate keepers are and reward them accordingly MrScorpio Jun 2014 #79

K&R nt raouldukelives Jun 2014 #73

I can't help being curious navarth Jun 2014 #74

The poster was new. Now, he's gone. Octafish Jun 2014 #76

Wrong. The ultimate end is, simply, terror. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #77

You got that right (said in the vocal intonations of Chief Justice John Roberts, R-Florida Stealer). Octafish Jun 2014 #83

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2014 #81

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Octafish's "Goal of Wholesale Survaillance" ReRe Nov 2014 #95