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Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:29 AM

98. Hey, Senator McCarthy! Did you know that our choices are not 'single payer' or 'what we

 

got'? Did you know that while we are the only country among our peers without health care for all there are in fact just a scant handful of nations that use actual 'single payer'? France does not, nor Germany. Canada does. Commie Canadians!
The point is that there are many ways to get fully insured as a nation. Few do it 'single payer' style. Many do use mandates, the difference with our plan is that our mandates are the only mandates on Earth to require the purchase of profit making products without any option, and with weak cost controls. Other countries that use mandates make it a crime to profit from those mandated products. Here, that profit is the point and first goal of the law.
Single Payer is the least used form world wide. It is the one sort we did not discuss at all. It was not 'we could not do that, so we did this, the only choice'. Single Payer was not up for discussion here.
A public option was discussed. That got tossed for 'pragmatic compromise' sake and we were told that compromise made the reform a shoo in. It passed! And yet it faces challenge still. The shoo in was not a shoo in.
When anyone tries to frame our choices as 'single payer or mandated for profit products' that person is either sadly uninformed or out to make rhetoric and call names, as you did here. Insinuations, implications, and all founded on nonsensical false binary choices. Can't address the details of the issue, so you make a shot at characterizing others who do not swallow line of 'reasoning'. Commies under the sofa! Make a list! Fear, fear!
Do you really think the Canadians are communists?
Canada is not communist, and it has single payer. Most of Europe does not use single payer, although they do not allow profit from basic mandated health insurance products. Those nation's Insurance Companies make lots of profit, just not from that which is mandated.

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