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tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
139. Bottom line is they're not populists
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:55 PM
Apr 2014

And they think people like her and Bill DeBlasio (who they can't stand) are way too far to the left. They're Democrats but centrist Democrats.

I personally like Warren, and the 2008 me would have voted for her in the primaries (maybe as late as 2010). But I don't see her winning electorally AT ALL (I'm thinking a Kerry performance AT BEST, but more realistically an ass kicking). In 2008, Obama expanded the electoral map by putting states like Virginia and North Carolina in play. I just don't see her expanding the map at all.

I work for Democratic campaigns, I'm around Democrats 24/7. Most of the people I work with think she will carry only the bluest of the blue states (CA, NY, etc) if she were the nominee. I'd rather have a candidate that has a shot at winning and not setting us back 50 years by giving the GOP some Supreme Court vacancies. I don't want a Walter Mondale for party purity's sake. Call me a sellout if you must, but I've mostly worked in purple to red states and I know what kind of Democrats can win these conservative states and districts. She has no appeal to southern independent voters.

And also if Fox and their minions have branded Obama as a socialist, imagine what they'll do to her.

Besides all this is a moot point because she has said repeatedly that she's not running.

EliZabeth Warren. Scuba Apr 2014 #1
Anyone of the three actually madokie Apr 2014 #2
George Clinton... he def brings da funk. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #3
He's doing a show here this weekend. L0oniX Apr 2014 #4
Saw him last year. Great show! nt Mojorabbit Apr 2014 #127
The Cabinet would be the P-Funk Allstars NightWatcher Apr 2014 #8
George Clinton (F) ..."Parliament" Funkadelic (political) party L0oniX Apr 2014 #11
P-Funk could easily settle Ukraine Crisis with a massive funk jam. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #13
He already laid out his plans... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #23
Bootsy Collins for Secretary of State!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #122
Oh, I would DEFINITELY go to THAT inaugural! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #24
Bootsie for VP L0oniX Apr 2014 #44
That I would vote for! Love Bootsie! sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #86
Yessir! With Bootsy as Vice! nyabingi Apr 2014 #52
George and Bootsy in 16! Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #90
The only Clinton I would vote for. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #132
If the primaries were today my vote would go to Warren. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #5
Even if she didn't win, running would up her Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #105
If Bernie was at least 10 years younger, I'd support him all the way. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #6
Like Sanders, prefer Warren. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #7
Me too. My first choice would be Warren, but Sanders is a very close second. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #10
Anyone who is not Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. ananda Apr 2014 #9
Lowest bar ever. Scuba Apr 2014 #12
So Satan is ok with you? L0oniX Apr 2014 #14
Satan is a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #101
Well, he IS a DINO-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #106
No I think he is a card carrying Republican..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #109
I would vote for Satan over ANY Republican . . . InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #133
Dr. Warren, Bernie Sanders heaven05 Apr 2014 #15
Looks like George has a chance against Hillary. L0oniX Apr 2014 #17
For the Democratic Party nomination or for President? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #16
Hillary is the only Democrat capable of winning in 2016 IMO. Trust Buster Apr 2014 #18
Tell that to George. L0oniX Apr 2014 #20
The corporate media certainly have constructed this meme now with Elizabeth Warren on the fringe... cascadiance Apr 2014 #49
The media is irrelevant.....particularly since Citizen's United... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #58
And tell me how supporting candidates that PUSH in stealth the TPP is going to help us... cascadiance Apr 2014 #62
I essentially agree with everything you just said but...... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #68
The people thought they were voting for significant change when they voted for Mr. Obama in 2008. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #89
Heard the same thing in 2008, until Hillary couldn't even win the nom. n/t Dawgs Apr 2014 #53
+1000 nt Logical Apr 2014 #65
Clintons poll numbers were crap this far out. joshcryer Apr 2014 #130
LOL, good one! Nt Logical Apr 2014 #61
True Dat ! Takes a relative newbee to cut Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2014 #81
In a primary or general election? JHB Apr 2014 #19
Either of them wyldwolf Apr 2014 #21
Warren is now as popular as Kucinich was last time Polito Vega Apr 2014 #22
Clever. bunnies Apr 2014 #25
...only this time the flying saucer is going to land on Wallstreet. L0oniX Apr 2014 #50
That pretty much proves that many Democrats on the internet are more intelligent Zorra Apr 2014 #57
I had the feeling that Kucinich didn't win the Democratic nomination partially Cal33 Apr 2014 #115
She, next to Obama, would be the most threatened president. I don't trust that Warren knows how ancianita Apr 2014 #26
Irrelevant treestar Apr 2014 #27
Warren AND Sanders on same ticket. nt 2naSalit Apr 2014 #28
This shows where the DU is compared to the rest of the party (and nation) ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #29
Fact check that did ya? L0oniX Apr 2014 #46
Just managing expectations. Scuba Apr 2014 #51
Do you need it spelled out? ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #78
Yea go ahead ...spell it out. L0oniX Apr 2014 #85
With another Republican as president, democracy in America would soon be dead. With Cal33 Apr 2014 #116
Democracy does not "die" when you lose an election... ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #120
Democracy is already dead. The dead just don't know it yet. L0oniX Apr 2014 #131
Well, the very fact that we can still write and offer criticism on a site such as Cal33 Apr 2014 #134
Yes the zombies will still vote. L0oniX Apr 2014 #136
Either Warren or Sanders for me. I have no interest in the others listed. NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #30
That's just how I feel. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #31
The reality is that the voting system in the US is rigged on so many levels. NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #32
You're right; we don't have a democracy. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #67
We have the best democracy money can buy. L0oniX Apr 2014 #75
either Howler Apr 2014 #33
Of those, Sanders bigwillq Apr 2014 #34
Do you honestly believe that Sanders can win a national election? brooklynite Apr 2014 #38
Yes bigwillq Apr 2014 #39
Obama never presented himself as a Socialist... brooklynite Apr 2014 #59
But still many thought that a one-term, Black Senator bigwillq Apr 2014 #74
I don't deny that a well-run campaign is important... brooklynite Apr 2014 #76
I did not provide a vote, as ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #35
Hard to vote for Warren since she doesn't want to run... brooklynite Apr 2014 #36
Yup. n/t GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #42
I'm appalled Manny isn't on the ballot.:) n/t malthaussen Apr 2014 #37
He was but I changed it ...and now back by popular demand. L0oniX Apr 2014 #43
Aw, I already voted. malthaussen Apr 2014 #45
Unlike using a Diebold voting machine ...you can change your vote here. L0oniX Apr 2014 #48
If those were the choices in the Democratic Primary, then Warren all the way. Iggo Apr 2014 #40
Either Warren or Sanders would be fine with me. LoisB Apr 2014 #41
Warren or Sanders pls LittleBlue Apr 2014 #47
Sanders and Warren would be a great ticket. Manny & Scuba a close second. Hillary..LOL. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #54
Well, they'd take Vermont, DC and Massachusetts... brooklynite Apr 2014 #60
I hope we find out. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #63
This tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #96
What are their objections? TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #99
'too liberal' tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #108
Why would they think that? Are there particular policies they can't swallow? TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #121
I'm sorry to say my Democratic voting sisters and brother, GOPee Apr 2014 #123
What does RomneyCare have to offer do with Warren or Sanders above any other Democrat? TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #124
Nothing directly GOPee Apr 2014 #125
They need to figure out what socialism is because being indentured to for profit corporations TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #138
Bottom line is they're not populists tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #139
I only vote for progressives betterdemsonly Apr 2014 #55
I chose Warren mvd Apr 2014 #56
Can't and wont get behind Hillary. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #64
Cound't too go with her! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #100
I am a Democrat and I vote for whoever wins the Dem Primary... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #66
LOL, how soon you forget Hillary at one point had a 27 point lead over Obama. You.... Logical Apr 2014 #77
So how does this effect the FACT that for now that is the truth? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #82
Like I said, she will find a way to make someone else look GREAT! nt Logical Apr 2014 #84
2014 is important ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #80
You are STILL expecting a Miracle Worker....a Hero....a Messiah.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #83
How about Bernie Sanders with Warren as his running mate? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #69
In the general election? The Democratic nominee, whoever that is. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #70
Can't vote Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #71
It's a tie between Warren and Sanders. intheflow Apr 2014 #72
I love Bernie stage left Apr 2014 #73
In a Perfect World ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #79
I think Sherrod Brown makes the most sense and should be drafted. TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #87
I agree ...Warren would only take the party left to where it used to be ...pre Reagan. L0oniX Apr 2014 #94
This thread should have full participation. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #88
Warren is my first pick. Sanders is my second. K&R nt. Jasana Apr 2014 #91
Martin O'Mally mahina Apr 2014 #92
Warren with Sanders as VP running mate. mylye2222 Apr 2014 #93
Hillary Clinton is my current first choice. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #95
warren, clinton, sanders, martin o'malley. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #97
I went for Sanders Spirochete Apr 2014 #98
I don't see a "any democratic candidate" button workinclasszero Apr 2014 #102
It's also missing an autolockstep button. L0oniX Apr 2014 #103
I can't make up my mind-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #104
Why do you think I didn't enter Skittles? L0oniX Apr 2014 #110
She'd really kick ass in the Primaries! Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #112
I would vote for Skittles! Marrah_G Apr 2014 #117
Everyone would. L0oniX Apr 2014 #118
First Choice Warren SteveG Apr 2014 #107
wow, an overwhelming Warren vote Hutzpa Apr 2014 #111
I've been told by a conservative DU member that this DU poll does not represent most Dems. L0oniX Apr 2014 #113
Regardless of what the ConservaDems may think Hutzpa Apr 2014 #114
Going with Liz since she has insider knowledge of how Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #119
where's the "all of them" option? i'd vote Bernie first, in a primary, but i don't think he'd make dionysus Apr 2014 #126
Only Sanders, Warren and George Clinton are worthy of my vote and support Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #128
Assuming a primary vote. Warren = Third Way Udall. joshcryer Apr 2014 #129
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #135
Oh please, another poll on this issue? Beacool Apr 2014 #137
From a practical perspective loyalsister Apr 2014 #140
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