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Major Nikon

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42. It wasn't just the MRAs that asked

Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:10 PM

Apr 2014

Thousands of people signed a petition asking the SPLC to designate certain TERF organizations as hate groups and the SPLC refused, despite all manner of hateful spewage coming from them and numerous other groups like the AMA and APA reporting anti-trans discrimination as a serious problem.

http://www.cristanwilliams.com/b/2013/05/14/my-exchange-with-the-southern-poverty-law-center-2/

http://www.transadvocate.com/southern-poverty-law-center-monitor-gender-identity-watch-as-a-hate-group_n_10904.htm

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Southern Poverty Law Center on MRA lies about women [View all] BainsBane Apr 2014 OP

Bravo CFLDem Apr 2014 #1

Okay BainsBane Apr 2014 #2

Just move him to the other list Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #4

I took Sea's advice CFLDem Apr 2014 #7

May I ask how you "got smart"? BainsBane Apr 2014 #15

exactly. he has to go all the way back to 60's or 70's and pulled ONE woman out. da man. right on seabeyond Apr 2014 #33

A K&R for you intaglio Apr 2014 #3

I don't understand your logic. pintobean Apr 2014 #6

I don't understand what you mean by "ssdd." Heidi Apr 2014 #11

ssdd = same shit, different day Chellee Apr 2014 #28

"meh, ssdd" attitude? Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #12

There is a largish school of thought that would class this OP as part of the terrible "Gender Wars" intaglio Apr 2014 #13

+1 nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #50

My, there are a lot of views BainsBane Apr 2014 #16

Some posts are very good and very interesting .... etherealtruth Apr 2014 #91

Yeah, I just totally lack the amazing courage it takes to hit the rec button... Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #78

No intaglio Apr 2014 #79

Okay I built up my courage and recced it Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #80

Hey, if a brush with greatness gets me a rec BainsBane Apr 2014 #92

How dare you march in here and cite a credible source! Heidi Apr 2014 #5

I think I'm supposed to rely on the Daily Mail BainsBane Apr 2014 #17

Please allow me to help you out. Heidi Apr 2014 #18

Meninism, or whatever BainsBane Apr 2014 #38

K'd, R'd and Bookmarked Small Accumulates Apr 2014 #8

Great post -- thank you. nt LumosMaxima Apr 2014 #9

K&R. A timely post in the wake of the report of the "botched" bullwinkle428 Apr 2014 #10

Thank You For Putting This Up, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2014 #14

SPLC must read DU! cyberswede Apr 2014 #19

lol redqueen Apr 2014 #20

cyberswede, you are a treasure BainsBane Apr 2014 #32

The false rape report statistics when further broken down are even more 'debunking' of the false stevenleser Apr 2014 #21

that is because many disagree with current law, and think incapacitating your "intended" is a valid bettyellen Apr 2014 #22

Interesting BainsBane Apr 2014 #23

Yes, I will find it. I used it for my show segment on rape culture a few months back... nt stevenleser Apr 2014 #24

That would be great! BainsBane Apr 2014 #27

And of course, now that I want to I am having trouble finding the exact link. But here are some stevenleser Apr 2014 #37

an interesting statistic that Egnever Apr 2014 #41

If you check the link, the 2.7 million to 1 refers actually to false rape accusations. nt stevenleser Apr 2014 #47

I dont know how you get that Egnever Apr 2014 #48

I think that number must be falsely accused BainsBane Apr 2014 #98

2.7 million to 1 BainsBane Apr 2014 #64

K&R wryter2000 Apr 2014 #25

Mo Dees and the SPLC are amazing Gothmog Apr 2014 #26

Also from the SPLC lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #29

You use quotes from Paul Elam, head of the MRA A Voice for Men BainsBane Apr 2014 #30

I quoted a news release from SPLC and attributed it to the SPLC. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #34

The SPLC looked at some RadFem views because MRAs asked them to cyberswede Apr 2014 #39

It wasn't just the MRAs that asked Major Nikon Apr 2014 #42

+1*10^6 lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #44

Seconded! AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #45

I don't understand your post. cyberswede Apr 2014 #54

That first link was an epic smackdown to TERFs and their apologists. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #67

I get what you're saying... cyberswede Apr 2014 #75

It's not so much that there is no patriarchy, the problem is that it is fundamentally misunderstood. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #83

I don't agree that the point of patriarchy was chivalry. cyberswede Apr 2014 #87

That's interesting... cyberswede Apr 2014 #49

My guess is the SPLC realized they kicked a hornets nest Major Nikon Apr 2014 #57

Yeah...there isn't much there...yet cyberswede Apr 2014 #60

Agree with that completely. The level of tolerance for trans-hate is unacceptable. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #73

They *should* be designated as hate groups, even if they arguably have less influence than the MRM. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #52

The MRM has a lot of traction and influence in Republican circles. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #58

Can you share some links to support that? cyberswede Apr 2014 #61

This 550-post thread is a good primer on the topic. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #62

LOL - you know I don't want to relive THAT trainwreck. cyberswede Apr 2014 #65

Subthread starts here lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #70

Good lord...the shitshowiest section of the meta shitshow! cyberswede Apr 2014 #72

some of them are still here. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #74

If they are, they don't espouse TERF positions here. cyberswede Apr 2014 #76

Agreed Major Nikon Apr 2014 #66

I see people voicing objection to TERFs cyberswede Apr 2014 #71

I suspect what Jeff is talking about starts with post 77 Major Nikon Apr 2014 #77

So it is the study you site so often BainsBane Apr 2014 #40

No, but I can see why you'd be confused. They all kind of look the same. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #43

On which website did you first hear about these studies? BainsBane Apr 2014 #63

. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #68

Ah, Yes, NIH study intaglio Apr 2014 #81

a) Your claim that women are less likely to report IPV than men is unsubstantiated. Link please. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #84

It might help if you read the SPLC report intaglio Apr 2014 #85

That is not how one typically locates academic articles BainsBane Apr 2014 #90

It doesn't matter to me whether you accept the truth. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #93

Speaking of NIH BainsBane Apr 2014 #94

As for where you get your studies BainsBane Apr 2014 #95

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #96

You did feel compelled to enter this thread and defend the MRA groups BainsBane Apr 2014 #97

Also from the SPLC DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #53

Yes you did misrepresent the context of the release. Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #86

I excerpted the paragraphs from the SPLC release that illustrated my point. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #89

It's typical... He cherry picks statistics and misrepresents stuff regularly to make MRA points Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #59

bah ahaha. really jeff? seabeyond Apr 2014 #31

I find it interesting when people quote the SPLC lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #35

i am having too nice an evening to discuss one woman from a handful of decades ago. you want to seabeyond Apr 2014 #36

The discussion of Solanas arose because SPLC wanted to take on its critics' arguments. Jim Lane Apr 2014 #46

It is sad, isn't it? DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #55

"I dare say that if social justice and equal protection under the law were all that the MRM nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #51

Actually, that excerpt was written by the author of the article cyberswede Apr 2014 #56

My mistake! nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #69

Oh I recommended this thread. I will K&R every thread like this I see.... Jasana Apr 2014 #82

It's all a bunch of right wing nonsense AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #88

Just stopped by from another thread Kalidurga May 2014 #99

It's bad BainsBane May 2014 #100

It shouldn't be Kalidurga May 2014 #101

Oh, missed this the first time around. Great article. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #102