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rdking647

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90. round up his cattle

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:24 AM

Apr 2014

let him cry all he wants. just go in and round up all his cattle. let the lunatics on the far right stew in the desert. if one of the milita men attempts to interfere arrest them. most of these so called tough guys will run and cower in hiding when threatened with real consequences.

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WTF Is Going On At Bundy Ranch? Video of Dangerous Standoff With Authorities. Snipers too! [View all] Skip Intro Apr 2014 OP

Illegal grazing on Federal lands Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #1

Haven't they been grazing on the land for 200 years? yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #62

No-one has been doing anything there for 200 years. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #72

So if Bundy gets to take over that public land what is stopping my family (Native Americans) from jwirr Apr 2014 #110

I 'm pretty sure it has to do with grazing rights for his cattle oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #2

There should be some clear documentation of who owns the land. Doesn't make sense to me. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #4

It's public land to which his permit to graze was revoked 21 years ago, FWIU. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #7

Yup , I remember reading that , he was allowed before oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #9

Hey I just wanted to tell you at first I read your thread title quickly and I oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #11

Well, now I want to know that too... Skip Intro Apr 2014 #15

There's clear documentation of who owns the Gaze Strip, too! The Bible! randome Apr 2014 #32

It is scrub land and it takes quite a lot of it to support one cow Warpy Apr 2014 #54

The point about the drought is very good. A lot of SW ranchers are selling their cattle because the jwirr Apr 2014 #111

And they finally took some action 2naSalit Apr 2014 #3

What he's been doing is blatantly illegal. But the police presence seems over the top. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #5

Try reading this... 2naSalit Apr 2014 #14

That's basically what I figured. He's been making threats. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #17

he's been making threats 2naSalit Apr 2014 #21

Yeah, I'm not so happy about those. beevul Apr 2014 #23

Well 2naSalit Apr 2014 #30

"First Amendment Zones" are the "best thing to do." What? Skip Intro Apr 2014 #52

Yeah...no tkmorris Apr 2014 #59

Not my point 2naSalit Apr 2014 #151

Wow, you must read some crazy wingnut sources if thats what you picked up. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #6

Yeah, I noticed this is making the rounds at infowars. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #8

yep. sounds like the feds & atf are gonna have to go in there orleans Apr 2014 #16

I would not put that outside the realm of possibility. Although, as with the Branch Davidians... Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #19

that was Branch Davidians.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #53

Sorry that was a typo. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #153

I am not particularly sure that Julio (?) Gonzalez was handled right either. yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #64

"target of the state"? You mean like every other person ever arrested for breaking the law? hedgehog Apr 2014 #85

Well, given that militias everywhere are using this story as an excuse to start a civil war Downtown Hound Apr 2014 #76

Friends, co-workers, family - I get stuff. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #12

No. He's in direct violation of a court order jberryhill Apr 2014 #78

Bunch of wingnuts are fighting with cops Egnever Apr 2014 #10

Didn't realize it had been through the courts. That makes a big difference. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #13

It's been ongoing for years now Egnever Apr 2014 #18

Bundy is the last rancher standing. Funny, he has no rights but if one has snappyturtle Apr 2014 #38

Yea cause his refusal to pay his fees had nothing to do with it. Egnever Apr 2014 #47

It isn't about the fees either. I spent a lot of time yesterday afternoon snappyturtle Apr 2014 #84

"Agenda 21"? You say that like that's a bad thing - hedgehog Apr 2014 #87

Sounds perfect, I know. Watch the best explanation of Agenda 21: snappyturtle Apr 2014 #105

I followed your link to the source - hedgehog Apr 2014 #117

Source? This is ONE youtube channel....this video is other places too. snappyturtle Apr 2014 #121

RW lunatics on YouTube seem to be dumbing down America maddezmom Apr 2014 #123

Its easy to knock down the messenger or cognitive dissonance has set in. snappyturtle Apr 2014 #131

What pings my radar are the people who are defending this asshat maddezmom Apr 2014 #137

Thank you. jwirr Apr 2014 #125

Baloney, it's about a trespassing welfare king refusing to obey the law. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #91

Clark county is controlled by their 'unincorporated Clark County' casino companies. Sunlei Apr 2014 #94

Thank you. nt snappyturtle Apr 2014 #102

Bundy leased the land for years, and now thinks he owns it CanonRay Apr 2014 #96

It's still federal land, and Bundy owes more than 20 years of grazing fees on it. Paladin Apr 2014 #99

What took the government (BLM) so long? 20 years! The time is right for putting snappyturtle Apr 2014 #103

Never too late. Most of the 20 years were controlled by rw politicians. jwirr Apr 2014 #130

even if he is a RW rancher /w a sense of entitlement to our public lands..He still has the right to Sunlei Apr 2014 #107

And of course this has nothing to do with the drought conditions in both areas? By the way please jwirr Apr 2014 #120

More to the story. Thanks. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #50

Thanks for the link Renew Deal Apr 2014 #26

1993? Sheesh, good thing BLM has been right on top of this . . . hatrack Apr 2014 #29

Thank you. The aerial cattle count explains what the rw are talking about helicopters being used jwirr Apr 2014 #112

I don't know a lot about this, Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #146

He is a soverign citizen.. gerogie2 Apr 2014 #20

Oh he made more than veiled threats 2naSalit Apr 2014 #22

Yes, Sovereign Citizen Nutjob Leith Apr 2014 #34

Looks like a bunch of idiot rednecks attacking police RandiFan1290 Apr 2014 #24

Attacking police? Armed with cameras and cell phones; avoided Free snappyturtle Apr 2014 #104

Our Gov charges some very cheap rate, its like 1.50 a month to graze on our public lands. Sunlei Apr 2014 #25

Puts it in perspective n/t rumdude Apr 2014 #49

Bundy's ranch area is 578,000+ acres. nt snappyturtle Apr 2014 #106

Twenty fucking years he's been breaking the law Nevernose Apr 2014 #27

Those cops don't look prepared for the action they're seeing. Renew Deal Apr 2014 #28

It's government land. He does not have a permit to graze his cattle on it. Autumn Apr 2014 #31

I think that they've been recalcitrant in paying fees for use of BLM land. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #33

Snort, doesn't appear as though they eva wanna pay. They appear to believe they are owed more than lonestarnot Apr 2014 #98

Jerks. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2014 #35

Reacting in a violent way doesn't help the situation… Amaya Apr 2014 #36

21years? How much longer should the Feds wait? nt Logical Apr 2014 #63

Another teabagging asshole and his buddies Tsiyu Apr 2014 #37

The Bundys have a ranch?! KamaAina Apr 2014 #39

exactly what I was thinking when PCIntern Apr 2014 #41

Cattle interfering with Chinese(?) solar farm deal? ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #40

Solar farm? Wow. From your link: Skip Intro Apr 2014 #44

No it really doesnt Egnever Apr 2014 #57

" . . . are in the way of some solar farm investment?" siligut Apr 2014 #135

That deal is dead maddezmom Apr 2014 #138

Solar power more expensive than fossil-fuel? siligut Apr 2014 #141

no cattle have been there for decades CreekDog Apr 2014 #158

There is no China deal MohRokTah Apr 2014 #93

Cordon off the area, sit back and let them stew in the heat under their tinfoil hats Ex Lurker Apr 2014 #42

Is it just me or does it seem like the government puts on the kid gloves for violent right wingers? Taitertots Apr 2014 #43

Should they just mow them down? n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #45

No, but they should probably arrest the guy that is kicking police dogs. Taitertots Apr 2014 #97

Kicking police dogs KansDem Apr 2014 #139

It's pretty simple, Wingnutjobs itching for a civil war are trying to provoke violent encounter. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #46

a fantasy based persecution rumdude Apr 2014 #48

He gave out and posted his phone number. VScott Apr 2014 #51

Southern Poverty Law Center information about Cliven Bundy, right wing extremist csziggy Apr 2014 #55

I think there might be more to it. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #56

Why? Egnever Apr 2014 #58

Because others are saying the family has claim to the land. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #65

No credible others are Egnever Apr 2014 #66

I'm not sure that's true. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #67

You seriously buy into the idea this is about solar panels? Egnever Apr 2014 #68

Dude... Skip Intro Apr 2014 #69

It isn't suddenly actionable Egnever Apr 2014 #71

Heres the recent ruling Egnever Apr 2014 #73

Care to share your sources to what others are saying? maddezmom Apr 2014 #86

Sources? Read the thread. Click the links. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #100

It means he is trespassing and has been for a long time maddezmom Apr 2014 #101

You bet it factors in. Bundy has been his own worst enemy. He's making it snappyturtle Apr 2014 #108

Here is an article linking the Reid's to the solar plant land grab: snappyturtle Apr 2014 #115

But that deal is dead and it isn't even in the same area maddezmom Apr 2014 #119

Thanks for this but....I thought it was a different area too until..... snappyturtle Apr 2014 #126

You seem to have your mind made up. maddezmom Apr 2014 #129

Oh, I wouldn't say that! I know Bundy has not paid up and has put himself in snappyturtle Apr 2014 #134

Why now? Because BLM was going to be sued to enforce previous court decisions maddezmom Apr 2014 #136

I'm sorry but this is almost laughable. The BLM has neglected its 'duty' UNTIL snappyturtle Apr 2014 #144

Okay. So I will go a bit further....the RW wants the land use issue to be a state issue not federal maddezmom Apr 2014 #147

Here is a link to a some good Q&A's maddezmom Apr 2014 #140

I will read all your link but I have to take a break from reading...anterior uveitis... snappyturtle Apr 2014 #148

I believe it is only to 3000 feet as to not interfer with BLM helicopters maddezmom Apr 2014 #150

Been to federal court twice LynnTTT Apr 2014 #92

In what way? BLM, the courts, the SPLC, law enforcement, and other sources csziggy Apr 2014 #60

Yeah, but there's more to it! Kingofalldems Apr 2014 #79

Awesome post... Skip Intro Apr 2014 #81

! csziggy Apr 2014 #82

Please tell us more.... Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #61

the tactic is not good tiny elvis Apr 2014 #70

"it got a little pushy-dog bitey " Skip Intro Apr 2014 #74

uh huh Jim Warren Apr 2014 #75

WTF is a "First Amendment Area" ???? Did BLM actually designate a 1st amendment area? Isn't kelly1mm Apr 2014 #77

The BLM doesn't want photos of their round-ups because a lot of animals are run to death. Sunlei Apr 2014 #88

Here is a link to the Federal Register. It consists of two pages regarding the snappyturtle Apr 2014 #118

Ok just so I understand this, BLM has closed a part of the public lands, and set aside kelly1mm Apr 2014 #143

I know....and now a no fly zone posted at the FAA over the Bundy area: snappyturtle Apr 2014 #149

here's a pretty good summary DrDan Apr 2014 #80

Rightwingnuts trying to provoke a violent comfrontation. 99Forever Apr 2014 #83

Waco Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #89

round up his cattle rdking647 Apr 2014 #90

Those socialist cows could feed a lot of homeless folks. nt adirondacker Apr 2014 #95

Well said. Louisiana1976 Apr 2014 #152

Been in their family for generations - NO. Public land they have rented for a long time but then jwirr Apr 2014 #109

I think they're also trying to instigate another "Ruby Ridge". GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #113

Yes, but if they succeed I have already said that I will not blame law enforcement. That land does jwirr Apr 2014 #114

You won't blame them, and I won't blame them. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #116

I hear you. I am hoping that the BLM has cautioned the officers regarding the political implications jwirr Apr 2014 #122

I'm sure they have. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #127

BREAKING NEWS: Major development in Bunkerville cattle battle pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #128

They keep saying Bundy ranch. Does he own land he is calling his ranch or are they calling the jwirr Apr 2014 #132

RWNJBS. n/t librechik Apr 2014 #124

4/11/14 the Federal DOI/BLM had FFA declare the ranch area a "No Fly Zone" Sunlei Apr 2014 #133

Yo, 3000 feet up is the no-fly zone MohRokTah Apr 2014 #142

BLM stopped the round-up today, when " Hundreds of people arrived". Sunlei Apr 2014 #154

They et armed terrorists win. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #155

Oh, reminds me of Chicago, summer 2012 WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #145

Eyes steady Jim Warren Apr 2014 #156

It's pretty insance Tassadar Apr 2014 #157